Jennifer
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Post by Jennifer on Jun 19, 2006 16:06:28 GMT -5
So What is also top 3 airplay! it could be top 2 next week!
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Post by TimtJLO on Jun 19, 2006 16:08:07 GMT -5
So What is also top 3 airplay! it could be top 2 next week!
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Post by Pulse on Jun 19, 2006 16:10:26 GMT -5
That is an unfair comparsion. Christina's later singles were released when the airplay charts became biased towards urban music. They had downloads back then but they werent counted. If they were Dirrty would have been at least Top 20. Beautiful would have been #1. Fighter actually peaked at #20 but it would have been Top 10 ad same with Cant Hold Us Down. And The Voice Within would have been Top 20.
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Post by Jennifer on Jun 19, 2006 16:13:49 GMT -5
that aint cicis fault.
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Post by josequervo on Jun 19, 2006 16:23:14 GMT -5
That is an unfair comparsion. Christina's later singles were released when the airplay charts became biased towards urban music. They had downloads back then but they werent counted. If they were Dirrty would have been at least Top 20. Beautiful would have been #1. Fighter actually peaked at #20 but it would have been Top 10 ad same with Cant Hold Us Down. And The Voice Within would have been Top 20. It's not the emergence of Urban's fault that those singles did poorly. Beautiful was a smash because people liked it, and it was a great song. I'm soory but Fighter, CHUD, and the Voice W/in were the auditory versions of crap.
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Post by Pulse on Jun 19, 2006 16:30:38 GMT -5
I'm just saying it's an unfair comparasion because if those singles came out today and there were no downloads, they would peak much higher. You know if downloads had been around back then, then people wouldnt have claimed that urban became that popular. Just like if downloads werent her now, people would still say that urban was still popular.
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Post by Live Your Life on Jun 19, 2006 16:45:15 GMT -5
LOL this is ridiculous. Ciara has nothing on Christina period.
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Post by FSUmcIL on Jun 19, 2006 16:47:20 GMT -5
And Ciara has how many REAL Grammys to Christina's? Ciara is NOWHERE near Christina in terms of vocal ability.
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Post by bml1980x on Jun 19, 2006 16:48:17 GMT -5
So you could also argue the fact that even with all those hit singles, Ciara's album sold about 2.5 million, while IIRC, Stripped sold something like 4 million.
The point I'm trying to make is that you can find facts to argue any point of view, and this bickering "fan war" idiocy is immature and quite frankly annoying.
We all have artists that we love and artists that we don't love so much. That doesn't mean that you are obligated to virtually "poke with a stick" the fans of the singers you don't like. I'm not directing this comment to anyone in particular but just as a general thing. I mean, what is the average age here...13?
The reason my post count is so low is because more often than not, I come here to find an at least semi mature conversation about charts and music and stats, and what I usually find is the usual fan arguing. It really gets tired.
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Post by moodang on Jun 19, 2006 16:52:53 GMT -5
^^ omg totally agreeddd! Everytime, I come here in such a good mood, some genius ppl here can turn me to angry, depressed, sad, etc.. and I don't want to be rude or get banned..
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 19, 2006 16:53:28 GMT -5
I like Xtina's new song every since her MTV performance. Ciara's new song is cool too.
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Post by o0o0o0o on Jun 19, 2006 16:53:39 GMT -5
Lol.. tbh. i don't want this song to have huge amounts of d/ls because if it ended up selling 1 million copies.. then it would decrease some of the album sales.. so i'm pushing more to the album than to the single.. GO buy the album..
anyways.. xtina is the queen... she blows the hell out of beyonce's "yeaaaaah" screeching.. and ciara "Ha" yells when she sings...
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Post by moodang on Jun 19, 2006 16:54:47 GMT -5
OMG!! are you kidding me right? I don't think anyone should ever compare Ciara to Christina... And Ciara has how many REAL Grammys to Christina's? Ciara is NOWHERE near Christina in terms of vocal ability.
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Post by Pulse on Jun 19, 2006 16:56:15 GMT -5
I dont know if anyone's mentioned this yet. But Beyonce has about 60 million impresions with 4317 spins, while Christina has about 36 million impressions with 5075 spins. That does seem kind of unfair that Christina has more spins, but that Beyonce has nearly double the impressions.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Jun 19, 2006 17:06:26 GMT -5
... haha, it's funny to come into threads like these, and see people arguing over two artists I could care less about...
it's so interesting......
in about a month... i would like to see the impressions/spins of these four ladies:
nelly f. christina beyonce janet
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Post by cuculiza on Jun 19, 2006 21:24:24 GMT -5
christina did pretty good in radio during the stripped days, just see:
*Dirrty: #14 *Beautiful: #1 (x4) *Fighter: #5 *Can't Hold Us Down: #3 *The Voice Within: #12
and ANOM will become her 10th Top10 hit in the format :).
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Post by addicted2u on Jun 19, 2006 22:09:39 GMT -5
Xtina will do well. And so will Ciara and B. These comparisons are stunningly stupid.
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Post by I love David and Theo on Jun 19, 2006 22:23:00 GMT -5
I like both ANOM and Ci Ci's song. I find Ci Ci in general more digestable though
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Post by Caviar on Jun 19, 2006 22:23:30 GMT -5
I still cant believe TVW got so high. :O
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Post by kinona on Jun 19, 2006 23:57:28 GMT -5
Ciara is not going to do better than Christina. I like Ciara but be for real Ok, Lets See :): Goodies - #1 Dirty - #49 1,2 Step - #2 Beatifull - #2 1,2 step was much bigger at the radio.... Oh - #2 Fighter - #33 And I - #96 CHUD - #13? Loose Controll - #3 TWWI - #34?? Like You - #3 Car Wash - #75 So What - #13 TYHB - #56.... Okay lets see Goodies 3 million Christina Aguilera-15 million Dirrty- 12 million Enough said...Don't mention Ciara in the same sentence as Christina Aguilera.
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Post by muscleclub on Jun 20, 2006 0:13:35 GMT -5
The video clip is available on itunes.
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Post by threeonthetree on Jun 20, 2006 1:55:50 GMT -5
Ok, Lets See :): Goodies - #1 Dirty - #49 1,2 Step - #2 Beatifull - #2 1,2 step was much bigger at the radio.... Oh - #2 Fighter - #33 And I - #96 CHUD - #13? Loose Controll - #3 TWWI - #34?? Like You - #3 Car Wash - #75 So What - #13 TYHB - #56.... Okay lets see Goodies 3 million Christina Aguilera-15 million Dirrty- 12 million Enough said...Don't mention Ciara in the same sentence as Christina Aguilera. LOL dont exxag, Dirrty is only at 10million, 9 million copies sold. Christina Aguilera is only at 12 million shipped
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Post by Live Your Life on Jun 20, 2006 2:17:30 GMT -5
"Trouble" is at the beginning and at the end of ANOM. It sounds really good.
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Post by Live Your Life on Jun 20, 2006 2:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by jazzhot on Jun 20, 2006 3:13:03 GMT -5
i'm sick of ppl comparing Christina to Beyonce or Britney, etc. they don't have voice Christina has. They're singing popular music but it doesn't mean that they are better. I'm sorry, but Beyonce (despite all her issues) can sing circles around Xtina. Unlike Xtina, she does not feel the need to yell at the top of her lungs in every verse of every song. I totally agree. Before you all hack away at me, ive had singing lessons, both Opera and Musical Theatre, so I know about vocal technique( no i aint a star but doesnt mean I what im expressing lacks...just listen and consider ). And whilst Xtina has impressive chops, she does oversing, screams her way too much on too many songs. Of course there are exceptions where she doesnt do this. But generally, she needs to learn that less is more. My teacher and anyone who has learnt singing will tell you " If you peak, where else can you go?" So what does Xtina do? She just yells and exagerrates even louder without actually climaxing higher...And even if the ending is more climactic and higher in range she still loses in sincerity quite often. She is not alone..Alot of big vocalists just push so hard that the meaning of the song is lost. Mary J Blige in U2's "One" is a classic example.I saw Xtina in concert- as a favour to a friend- she did a bluesy number and got carried away with the " im white and think im black amen praise the lord shite." Which is fine if your Arethra. Just be ya self. She has given great vocal performances though and does have a very good voice, and in time ( when the years of overuse and abuse kick in narrowing her range - which will be very soon mind you at the rate she is going....) she will learn to do more with less. Praise the lord..for the jackals are gonna come biting at my hells.. Now wheres my dog food?
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Post by Live Your Life on Jun 20, 2006 3:16:05 GMT -5
I don't think Beyonce is better even if Christina didn't scream.
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Post by laguy03 on Jun 20, 2006 3:16:46 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfy on Jun 20, 2006 4:19:35 GMT -5
I LOVED the video! :)
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Post by Felicia on Jun 20, 2006 6:18:19 GMT -5
The video is solid, nothing special but I like it.
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Post by Mike on Jun 20, 2006 6:41:07 GMT -5
I agree with Dr. Luke's post a few pages back. The video is good, not great... But it is solid.
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