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Post by vinyl on Nov 8, 2006 19:35:05 GMT -5
Last I checked, Halifax was the provincial capital of Nova Scotia... in Canada.... which doesn't mean thing one for the US Pop charts. Next? "This song isn't and won't see much 6a-6p airtime, plain and simple." Well, according to iMax, it did in Halifax, so it could do the same in the U.S. It was just an observation.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Nov 8, 2006 19:45:40 GMT -5
I can't believe I defended this n00b Told ya so. Just don't take him too seriously. He'll disagree with you no matter what.
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Post by muscleclub on Nov 8, 2006 22:35:04 GMT -5
Last I checked, Halifax was the provincial capital of Nova Scotia... in Canada.... which doesn't mean thing one for the US Pop charts. Next?
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Post by actuallyinradio on Nov 9, 2006 0:14:41 GMT -5
What? Because I'm honest about the drivel that's being released right now, that makes my opinion unworthy? Wow, I'm so sorry, let me correct myself!
PINK! MADONNA! JAY-Z! KT TUNSTALL! ALL AMERICAN REJECTS! NELLY FURTADO! CHRISTINA AGUILERA!
ALL OF YOUR NEW RECORDS ARE JUST SIMPLY THE MOST WONDERFUL AUDIO FILES EVER RELEASED! THEY'RE GOING TO DO SO WELL! YAY!
Blah. Next.
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Post by actuallyinradio on Nov 9, 2006 0:17:15 GMT -5
I can't believe I defended this n00b Told ya so. Just don't take him too seriously. He'll disagree with you no matter what. No, I respect the hits. When somebody brings up a record that is actually a HIT, I'll gladly agree with the common theme of "let's pat all the 'artists' on the back for their wonderful new material" that appears to be evident on this board. Stiffs, or as those of you who obviously have very little clue how radio really works call them, "flops" .... Those, I have zero respect for.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 9, 2006 0:38:24 GMT -5
Last I checked, Halifax was the provincial capital of Nova Scotia... in Canada.... which doesn't mean thing one for the US Pop charts. Next?
Pop radio is pop radio. Acting like a complete self-centred egocentric know-it-all who takes everything everyone else says and completely dismisses it because you think you know everything will not win you points around here. Not that it matters to you but if you really are in radio, you better watch yourself around here anyway. Don't make a bad name for people that are like you.
And finally, get over yourself.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 9, 2006 0:41:52 GMT -5
What? Because I'm honest about the drivel that's being released right now, that makes my opinion unworthy? Wow, I'm so sorry, let me correct myself! PINK! MADONNA! JAY-Z! KT TUNSTALL! ALL AMERICAN REJECTS! NELLY FURTADO! CHRISTINA AGUILERA! ALL OF YOUR NEW RECORDS ARE JUST SIMPLY THE MOST WONDERFUL AUDIO FILES EVER RELEASED! THEY'RE GOING TO DO SO WELL! YAY! Blah. Next. No, I respect the hits. When somebody brings up a record that is actually a HIT, I'll gladly agree with the common theme of "let's pat all the 'artists' on the back for their wonderful new material" that appears to be evident on this board. Stiffs, or as those of you who obviously have very little clue how radio really works call them, "flops" .... Those, I have zero respect for.
Honestly, I'm confused what you're going for. So, when you call a song a hit, do you mean the song is good? Because it seems to me that you like a song but you also say it's not a hit. What the hell are you talking about? Are you talking about strictly radio and radio successes in terms of getting audience or are you talking about good music? Because more often than not, good music ISN'T heard on the radio and as for radio itself, for the most part, it sucks. It might be selling now but radio continues to go downhill even with listener totals because more people are going to the internet. Mainstream pop radio sucks because of the focus of the music and because of the gross overplay.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 9, 2006 0:43:10 GMT -5
What I dont get is actually seems to hate everything. So why is he on a pop board? Just to bitch in a million topics about how all music sucks and nothing is a hit nowadays???
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Post by actuallyinradio on Nov 9, 2006 0:45:26 GMT -5
Last I checked, Halifax was the provincial capital of Nova Scotia... in Canada.... which doesn't mean thing one for the US Pop charts. Next?
Pop radio is pop radio. Acting like a complete self-centred egocentric know-it-all who takes everything everyone else says and completely dismisses it because you think you know everything will not win you points around here.I'm not here to win points. I could care less about "points." This is a discussion board. If I have an opinion, I'm going to say it, period. My track record for hearing hits before they happen speaks for itself. In fact, of the records that I've responded to, I encourage someone to keep track of the ones that prove to be hits versus the ones that don't. I guarantee you I'll be right on the money at least 80% of the time. I'd better watch myself? Hmm... I take that as a threat, which violates the proboards.com terms of service... so, pot, meet kettle. Oh how naive are you? Do you really think that Program and Music Directors don't think along the same lines as I've posted here? Give me a break. You should see some of the email responses we write to our label reps and hear some of the telephone conversations. When a rep mentions a song that is a stiff, we spare no words in letting them know exactly what we think. Next.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 9, 2006 0:45:56 GMT -5
I want to see him post in the other formats and other parts of the board in general besides pop.
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Post by actuallyinradio on Nov 9, 2006 0:48:12 GMT -5
So why is he on a pop board? Because, even though I work in pop radio, I recognize that the format is in a doldrums period right now with few quality (in other words, stuff that I'll actually be playing in my Gold category in two years) records being released. It happens almost every year, once you get past early September. There aren't a lot of records with any kind of staying power released between then and the New Year. Why? Who knows, but that's generally how it ends up playing out.
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Post by polly on Nov 9, 2006 0:48:30 GMT -5
For the first time, in I think ever I agree with you Love Plastic Love. Well said.
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Post by actuallyinradio on Nov 9, 2006 0:49:22 GMT -5
I want to see him post in the other formats and other parts of the board in general besides pop. Won't happen. Pop is the format I work in, Pop is what I know best, therefore I post on this board.
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Post by actuallyinradio on Nov 9, 2006 0:52:43 GMT -5
What? Because I'm honest about the drivel that's being released right now, that makes my opinion unworthy? Wow, I'm so sorry, let me correct myself! PINK! MADONNA! JAY-Z! KT TUNSTALL! ALL AMERICAN REJECTS! NELLY FURTADO! CHRISTINA AGUILERA! ALL OF YOUR NEW RECORDS ARE JUST SIMPLY THE MOST WONDERFUL AUDIO FILES EVER RELEASED! THEY'RE GOING TO DO SO WELL! YAY! Blah. Next. No, I respect the hits. When somebody brings up a record that is actually a HIT, I'll gladly agree with the common theme of "let's pat all the 'artists' on the back for their wonderful new material" that appears to be evident on this board. Stiffs, or as those of you who obviously have very little clue how radio really works call them, "flops" .... Those, I have zero respect for.
Honestly, I'm confused what you're going for. So, when you call a song a hit, do you mean the song is good? Because it seems to me that you like a song but you also say it's not a hit. What the hell are you talking about? Are you talking about strictly radio and radio successes in terms of getting audience or are you talking about good music? Because more often than not, good music ISN'T heard on the radio and as for radio itself, for the most part, it sucks. It might be selling now but radio continues to go downhill even with listener totals because more people are going to the internet. Mainstream pop radio sucks because of the focus of the music and because of the gross overplay.There's a difference between personally liking a song (for example, I really like Pink - Dear Mr President) and it not being a hit... and a song that is simply a terrible record that stands no chance of ever being a hit. What I find amusing is some of the "hit! hit! hit!" posts that are all over this board (and not just in this particular thread) for songs that are so obviously NOT hits.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 9, 2006 0:52:48 GMT -5
Wow, you really ARE completely full of yourself. I'm actually surprised myself. You might be in the industry but I gaurantee you that you've met your match when it comes to radio experts, some of which have been following radio trends and charts for decades. Now, I admit I'm not one of them. My expertise is pretty much limited to American Top 40 charts from 1994 to around 2002 or so and since then I've pretty much dropped out and have pretty much become more of a fan of good music but I still know a thing or two about music and radio trends myself.
As for what I meant with making a bad name for you and your people. I mean by acting like a jackass. Unless all PDs are assholes on message boards towards regular people, then you're doing a good job making it seem like they are.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 9, 2006 0:54:27 GMT -5
I want to see him post in the other formats and other parts of the board in general besides pop. Won't happen. Pop is the format I work in, Pop is what I know best, therefore I post on this board.
And god forbid you expand your knowledge or make an attempt to learn from someone else.
What I find amusing is some of the "hit! hit! hit!" posts that are all over this board (and not just in this particular thread) for songs that are so obviously NOT hits.
So if you're such a genius, how can you tell when a song is a hit or not?
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Post by actuallyinradio on Nov 9, 2006 0:57:34 GMT -5
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It's all in the ear. If you know what you're doing, you can hear a hit from the first couple times you hear it.
If you've never worked in the industry, you won't understand that statement, more than likely. But, it's very true.
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Post by muscleclub on Nov 9, 2006 1:14:21 GMT -5
LMAO! Who are you? God?? I really hope you are not working on the pop radio because you, your taste and your attitude suck big time! People like you don't belong on this board, my friend.
Nothing personal, but I really don't like you. OUT!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 9, 2006 1:15:21 GMT -5
Oh-he is one of those people who thinks because he has some small job somewhere in the "industry" that his opinion matters more than everyone else's and he knows everything. I have met them before...they will always be around.
U and Ur Hand is a HIT!!!! Get that smash girl ;)
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 9, 2006 1:21:44 GMT -5
It must feel nice to look down on the little people. I don't think I could do it though because I'm not full of myself and I know what it's like to be the little people. The little people feed the big people.
NEXT!
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Post by tomasz77 on Nov 9, 2006 1:42:47 GMT -5
Wow this board went from all love to fighting...
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Post by muscleclub on Nov 9, 2006 1:51:41 GMT -5
Love is all around. This is one of the most friendly corners on this board. But, this radio "uctuallyinradio" executive is bad news for this thread and the rest of the board and needs to go.
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Post by polly on Nov 9, 2006 6:30:57 GMT -5
Let's all have one massive orgy and pentrate ever orafise in actuallyinradio's body! LMAO.
I wouldn't want to go near the wanker with a 20 foot poll!
And no I don't have split personalities...... (yes you do!)
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Post by MusicJunkie on Nov 9, 2006 6:48:32 GMT -5
[/color][/quote] It's all in the ear. If you know what you're doing, you can hear a hit from the first couple times you hear it. If you've never worked in the industry, you won't understand that statement, more than likely. But, it's very true.[/quote] Well, IMO you're wrong. The list that you compiled (in the other thread) of the songs you believe are 'hits,' some of them are flopping as we speak. Also, in a few months, we'll see if the songs that you declared hits and flops are indeed what you labeled them. I think you're just too full of yourself. It's a combination of things that makes a hit, it's not just what you hear.
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Post by polly on Nov 9, 2006 7:16:17 GMT -5
80 57 PINK U + Ur Hand 2006 LaFace/Zomba 421 129 292 1.099
Another great jump! YAY!
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Post by muscleclub on Nov 9, 2006 7:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by polly on Nov 9, 2006 7:57:19 GMT -5
YAY, a 46 spin increase... I just pray her Bullet ontinues to increase.
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Post by OUcultjam on Nov 9, 2006 10:36:38 GMT -5
I love that the song is being played but the percentage of overnight spins does concern me a little.
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Nov 9, 2006 10:59:23 GMT -5
Even his sig "Actuallyinradio" is stuck up. So you can tell a hit record when you hear it the first couple of times? ...????That's impossible. You can hear a record you'd think would flop, but then the record company sends out the payola....What then? Kill yourself....
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Post by britneyrules on Nov 9, 2006 11:08:33 GMT -5
Theo even I work in Pop Radio and I love this song lol
So at least you got someone on yo side lol
GO LEIGY LOL
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