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Post by jlh527 on Nov 23, 2004 19:32:00 GMT -5
"It Isn't, It Wasn't, It Ain't Never Gonna Be" by Aretha Franklin and Whitney Houston appeared on Aretha's "Through The Storm" album and reached #5 R&B, #18 Dance, and #41. I love this song. It's one of those song that you remember, but can NEVER find anywhere.
I remember reading Aretha's biography and she said Whitney wasn't ready for that caliber of a duet, but Clive Davis basically forced her to do it. No matter the circumstances behind the song I think they sounded GREAT together.
The tit for tat, following this riff and run banter they displayed was timeless, although Big Reefa scatted Whitney head off, Whitney got some good swells and a couple of runs of the Queen.
Do you all remember this one?
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Nov 23, 2004 20:22:31 GMT -5
It sounded good at first but got really stale by the third or fourth listen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2004 20:25:05 GMT -5
The vocals are good (of course) but I don't care for the song itself.
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Post by bluenote on Nov 24, 2004 0:08:41 GMT -5
LOL. i never knew this existed.
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Post by ClassicCase on Nov 24, 2004 9:58:35 GMT -5
I've heard about this song. But why the hell did the songwriter had to put a double-negative toward the end of its title? I'm thinking that this was a pre-ebonic moment for a song to be this hot. But then again, it's really not a bad song. I'm not all too crazy about it unless is re-grows on me again.
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Post by jlh527 on Nov 24, 2004 10:32:18 GMT -5
I've heard about this song. But why the hell did the songwriter had to put a double-negative toward the end of its title? I'm thinking that this was a pre-ebonic moment for a song to be this hot. But then again, it's really not a bad song. I'm not all too crazy about it unless is re-grows on me again. It was co-written by Diane Warren. |
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Post by Hervard on Nov 24, 2004 10:36:12 GMT -5
I never got to hear this song. The week after it moved ahead 49-41 in the summer of 1989, I was looking forward to hearing it on AT40. But it wasn't to be. I went out to the record store after the show was over to see what was up with the song and it had already fallen (to #43, I believe).
I'll have to get a copy of "Through The Storm". I'm surprised it didn't do better, seeing that Whitney Houston sang on it and she hadn't yet burned out.
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Post by 620 Soul Train on Nov 24, 2004 11:54:30 GMT -5
It sounded more like a Urban hit than a pop hit. Remember "Thinking About You" with Kashif doing the background vocals, well it did not chart on the Hot 100 at all. The song was kind of "tired", when you get right down to it. The funny part was when Miss Franklin called Whitney "Miss Thang".  |
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Post by Hervard on Nov 24, 2004 11:57:34 GMT -5
It was an upbeat urban sounding song, right? I sort of figured that because it was indicated that there was a twelve-inch single available and usually, that means it's a dance remix.
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Post by 620 Soul Train on Nov 24, 2004 12:08:11 GMT -5
It was an upbeat urban sounding song, right? I sort of figured that because it was indicated that there was a twelve-inch single available and usually, that means it's a dance remix. Oh yeah! It was definately upbeat like her Urban only hit "Thinking About You". |
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Post by reception on Nov 24, 2004 20:53:48 GMT -5
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Post by Whi$tlin' Pete on Nov 24, 2004 21:54:37 GMT -5
Hot a bad song. Didn't think it was worthy of being a huge hit, but it should've done better than a number 41 peak.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 5, 2007 18:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by dth1971 on Aug 14, 2007 19:08:58 GMT -5
Aretha and Whitney even didn't make the R&R Top 40 with this one! If it did, it would have been heard for 1, 2, or 3 weeks on Casey's Top 40 (Casey Kasem) and Rick Dees Weekly Top 40.
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Post by tico on Aug 16, 2007 16:45:12 GMT -5
I forgot all about this song. It was the jam for a minute.
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Post by glenpwood on Mar 27, 2011 14:17:48 GMT -5
I never knew about this song until 1991 when Billboard ran a blurb about My Name Is Not Susan breaking her string of top 10 hits if you discounted The Star Spangled Banner and this duet since it was an Aretha project more than a Houston one....
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Post by Libra on Mar 27, 2011 20:37:18 GMT -5
With regards to missing out on both countdowns by only inches...the song's title really made for a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 13, 2012 11:14:31 GMT -5
Already done!
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Post by dth1971 on Feb 13, 2012 17:18:38 GMT -5
Only reached #41 on Billboard, never made a dent on R&R CHR Top 40 also.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Feb 13, 2012 17:57:22 GMT -5
I think this one is really underrated. I discovered this one a few years ago when a friend was asking me for one of the remix edits of the song. Aretha and Whitney sounded real hot together. It was just so well done.
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Post by gonecountry on Aug 19, 2018 6:16:31 GMT -5
They both sounded good on this IMO, but the song never hit it big (#41 in 1989). I think the song particularly ends a bit lackluster.
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Post by Dreams on Aug 19, 2018 6:24:23 GMT -5
I like it.
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Post by Jay D83 on Aug 19, 2018 10:20:20 GMT -5
This song was a waste of two music titans. What Clive was thinking, we'll never know.
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 19, 2018 10:42:23 GMT -5
In general Whitney's duets with "music titans" were disappointing; this one, the Stevie one, even the Mariah one (it has endured well but still isn't as good as it should have been). She doesn't really have a classic duet.
And yeah, the double negative in this song is odd.
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Post by stunnedout on Aug 19, 2018 18:05:55 GMT -5
I was expecting this to be a ballad instead of an New jack swing attempt. I would've preferred to hear Whitney on this by herself. It was a bit too young for Aretha.
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Post by The Black Bird on Jan 3, 2022 9:42:37 GMT -5
I feel like this is somewhat underappreciated. Their performances were FIRE and the way they play at each other is just pure fun. The ad libs are great and the song's highlight imo.
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 3, 2022 9:47:05 GMT -5
I agree there's something a little underwhelming about this one. It doesn't capture the electricity of "Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves" Aretha and Annie had going on a few years before.
As far as Whitney's duets, I think a case could be made that "Same Script, Different Cast" is her strongest collaboration.
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