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Post by Whi$tlin' Pete on Nov 28, 2004 22:37:09 GMT -5
I mentioned in a few other posts that I recently listened to the AT 40 1976 year end show. A hit called "Wham Bam Shang-A-Lang by Silver (see my signature below) peaked at number 16 in October and finished the year at number 71. At about the same time, "Disco Duck" by Rick Dees hit number 1, but only finished number 97 for the year. Something just didn't seem right about that. It did have fewer weeks for the chart year than "Wham Bam" but "Disco Duck" had most of its chart run complete by the time the year end chart would have been tabulated. Hmmm!
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Post by ClassicCase on Nov 28, 2004 23:08:32 GMT -5
I did not discover AT 40 until about three years later. But it is strange that Rick Dee's Disco Duck did so well than that of Silver's Wham Bam Shang-A-Lang (and I've no idea what the hell they came up with that title anyway). Any indication as to how many weeks on the chart both those songs ranked overall? I remembered that KTBB-AM in Tyler would play the hell out of that song(Disco Duck) long before they were MOR and later news/talk.
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Post by mst3k on Nov 29, 2004 0:01:34 GMT -5
I think during the mid-seventies, the chart year (at least for AT40) ended at the end of October/beginning of November... so "Disco Duck" did miss out on a big chunk of its chart weeks (a number of those in the top ten). That's also why Steve Miller's "Rock'n Me" didn't make the top 100 of the year, despite hitting #1 on November 6. Either that or some psychic on the AT40 staff knew that Dees would one day be the evil competition...  |
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Post by Matt4319 on Nov 29, 2004 0:06:22 GMT -5
Toni Braxton's "He Wasn't Man Enough".
Oh wait, that didn't make the year-end chart.
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Post by jond7699 on Nov 29, 2004 3:37:20 GMT -5
Toni Braxton's "He Wasn't Man Enough". Oh wait, that didn't make the year-end chart. That is one of the reasons I stopped listening to Casey. That was one of the worst oversights in chart history |
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Post by Hervard on Nov 29, 2004 12:16:42 GMT -5
That is one of the reasons I stopped listening to Casey. That was one of the worst oversights in chart history This was because AT10 had deviated from R&R back then and instead, used some weird chart system that totally didn't make sense. The year-end chart looked like it was put together at the last minute, so there was no time for proofreading to make sure all songs were included (IIRC, several other songs were missing from the chart, but the Toni Braxton song was the most obvious). The AT20 AC chart was even worse, with several Top Ten songs missing from the chart, yet a few songs that didn't even make it were among the list. I remember a poster named Gil on the old R&R boards posting a commentary on the chart and he was just as baffled by it as I was. I'm not sure what the AT20 AC Top 60 of 2000 chart was like, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were many oddities on that chart, as well. |
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Post by johnnywest on Nov 29, 2004 12:18:43 GMT -5
How about "Blame It On The Rain." It hit #1 yet didn't make the Top 100 year-end chart for either 1989 or 1990.
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Post by Hervard on Nov 29, 2004 12:23:38 GMT -5
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Post by Libra on Nov 29, 2004 14:43:38 GMT -5
Must...resist...temptation...to...make...obvious...spin-off...thread...  ;) |
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Post by Whi$tlin' Pete on Nov 30, 2004 1:21:09 GMT -5
Posted by: MikeK102 Posted on: 11/29/2004 at 14:43:38
Must...resist...temptation...to...make...obvious...spin-off...thread...
Let...me...guess...would...it...be...AT 40 year end rankings that make perfect sense?
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Post by Libra on Nov 30, 2004 7:24:03 GMT -5
Posted by: MikeK102 Posted on: 11/29/2004 at 14:43:38 Must...resist...temptation...to...make...obvious...spin-off...thread... Let...me...guess...would...it...be...AT 40 year end rankings that make perfect sense? No...I don't know enough about AT40 before 2000 to justify a thread like that.  |
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Post by BillboardBoy on Dec 7, 2004 21:57:30 GMT -5
How about "Blame It On The Rain." It hit #1 yet didn't make the Top 100 year-end chart for either 1989 or 1990.
You were probably thinking of Casey's Top 40. "Blame It On The Rain" didn't make the year-end Top 40 of 1989 or the top 100 of 1990.
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Post by johnnywest on Feb 2, 2006 23:08:28 GMT -5
I was surprised that "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" was first in the year end top 100 of 1984 (the year it peaked) and then it did even better in 1985.
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Post by mst3k on Feb 3, 2006 1:22:44 GMT -5
One I forgot to mention the first time around... in 1975, AT40 used Billboard's yearend top 100, with one strange exception: Grand Funk's "Some Kind Of Wonderful", which was down near the bottom of the Billboard chart, ended up at #6 on AT40's list (bumping every other song down a notch).
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Post by johnnywest on Feb 3, 2006 22:59:17 GMT -5
It seems that Billboard doesn't have the same kind of cut-off rule that R&R does. Sometimes they place a song in one year and not the other even when it charted in both, giving it a higher ranking in one of those years.
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Post by dth1971 on Aug 13, 2007 19:52:44 GMT -5
More AT40 year-end chart oddities:
"Why Me" by Kris Kristophensen made the Top 10 of the 1973 AT40 year end chart.
"Some Kind of Wonderful" by Grand Funk made #6 on the 1975 AT40 year end chart.
"Object of My Desire" by Starpoint made Billboard/AT40's 1986 year-end chart.
The 1990 re-release of "Unchained Melody" by The Righteous Brothers made the top 50 of the 1990 AT40 year end chart.
"Enter Sandman" by Metallica made the 1991 AT40 year end chart.
A few 1992 songs that didn't hit the R&R chart made the 1992 AT40 year end chart: "Nu Nu", "Too Blind to See It", and Salt-N-Pepa's "You Showed Me".
"Bright Lights" by Matchbox Twenty made the 2004 AT40 year-end chart despite not charting when Ryan Seacrest took over Casey Kasem at the start of 2004 and had a no recurrent rule for the AT40 chart.
"Ever the Same" by Rob Thomas made the 2006 AT40 year-end chart despite failing to make the AT40 chart.
HONORABLE MENTION: "Close to You" by Fun Factory made the year-end 1995 R&R chart used for Casey's Top 40 despite not making the Top 40 of the chart.
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Post by johnnywest on Aug 13, 2007 21:53:31 GMT -5
The 1990 re-release of "Unchained Melody" by The Righteous Brothers made the top 50 of the 1990 AT40 year end chart. I believe Shadoe said that they combined the points for both versions for that song. "Bright Lights" by Matchbox Twenty made the 2004 AT40 year-end chart despite not charting when Ryan Seacrest took over Casey Kasem at the start of 2004 and had a no recurrent rule for the AT40 chart. "Ever the Same" by Rob Thomas made the 2006 AT40 year-end chart despite failing to make the AT40 chart. Mediabase is tallying up the all the songs' points throughout the year regardless of where it peaks anywhere on the chart (I think the list goes down to 1,000). Even if the song has gone recurrent, they still include those spins. So as long as a song has strong enough airplay throughout the year, then it has a good chance of making the year-end rankings. |
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Post by Hervard on Aug 13, 2007 23:33:13 GMT -5
Darryl mentioned "Ever The Same" making the AT40 list despite not charting. Actually, I sort of expected that song to make it, since it was obviously right outside the Top 40 for a number of weeks.
One thing on the 2006 list that didn't make sense to me was that "Mr. Brightside" made the chart despite having fallen off in October of 2005. It must have sat right outside the chart for months and months as well.
There were also several songs that spent only one or two weeks on the chart at the beginning of the year and were ranked unusually high. Anyone know what the time frame was for the chart? It had to have been sometime in December, 2005, if not November!
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Post by dth1971 on Aug 15, 2007 8:23:00 GMT -5
What about "I'm On Fire" by 5000 Volts making a 1975 or 1976 AT40 year end chart despite being ranked charting low on Billboard?
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Post by johnnywest on Apr 3, 2010 17:41:19 GMT -5
"Angels on the Moon" should've been included in the top 100 of 2009.
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Post by somelikeitwhen on Apr 3, 2010 20:16:32 GMT -5
In 2001, "What's Your Fantasy" by Ludacris only spent 4 weeks in the top 40, but it managed to chart at #98 for the year, higher than top 20 hits like How You Remind Me, which was #1 by the end of the year. This was because Ludacris spent a lot of time in the 41-50 range and even more in late 2000 hovering around the top 50, and Nickelback peaked in December, sending it into the 2002 chart year.
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Post by johnnywest on Apr 4, 2010 9:52:07 GMT -5
This is a little off the subject, but on Casey's 90s decade show, I believe that "Missing" was missing (the #1 song of 1996).
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Post by tico on Apr 20, 2010 15:01:36 GMT -5
I remember Brenda K. Starr's version of "I Still Believe" making the year-end chart for 1988, despite not making the top ten (peaked at #12 IIRC). For the 1989 chart year, "Mixed Emotions" and "Angelia" didn't make the chart despite both being top-five hits.
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Post by mrlee on Jun 28, 2010 20:22:59 GMT -5
I remember Brenda K. Starr's version of "I Still Believe" making the year-end chart for 1988, despite not making the top ten (peaked at #12 IIRC). For the 1989 chart year, "Mixed Emotions" and "Angelia" didn't make the chart despite both being top-five hits. Angelia did make the 1990 AT40 Year End Chart(#74 for the year). The reason why it did not make the 1989 Year End Chart was that it peaked in December. |
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