Chaotic Kissed A Pinkch!
Platinum Member
2.5.08 - Robyn, 6.29.08 - Katy Perry, 6.30.08 - Veronicas & Natasha Bedingfield
Joined: November 2005
Posts: 1,359
|
Post by Chaotic Kissed A Pinkch! on Jan 23, 2007 15:55:01 GMT -5
I can't believe KISS-LA gave this 2 test spins. If they added I'd be shocked, but good to see they've got some interest in Avril. God, I would've killed for a video to this song. I know Breakaway's video sucked, but even that was good exposure. This song I think would benefit from it.
|
|
|
Post by When I Ruled the World on Jan 23, 2007 19:45:54 GMT -5
*Sexy-Sugah! - (though I highly doubt you are either) Boring - that is you opinion and that is ok. Flopped - you're just wrong: 1) KHO is already a GOLD single and will be Platinum next week. 2) It's still in the top 10 on iTunes (without a video or a record out) 3) It's her highest charted 1st week on Billboard ever 4) It's her highest radio charted single in Canada EVER 5) It is top 15 on Hot AC radio 6) It's number 28 on CHR pop Mediabase Maybe you should get your facts straight. You obviously know very little about singles, or radio. Perhaps you should stop posting for a while, do some research and learn a thing or two. Then you MAY be able to have a somewhat educated opinion about things. If anybody disagrees with me on this please feel free to comment. LOL! I like this new side of Luke! Great song too... and it's definately a grower. I didn't care for it too much upon first listen. I'm sad that it seems like it won't have a video.
|
|
Jennifa
4x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 4,324
|
Post by Jennifa on Jan 23, 2007 21:22:50 GMT -5
*Sexy-Sugah! - (though I highly doubt you are either) Boring - that is you opinion and that is ok. Flopped - you're just wrong: 1) KHO is already a GOLD single and will be Platinum next week. 2) It's still in the top 10 on iTunes (without a video or a record out) 3) It's her highest charted 1st week on Billboard ever 4) It's her highest radio charted single in Canada EVER 5) It is top 15 on Hot AC radio 6) It's number 28 on CHR pop Mediabase Maybe you should get your facts straight. You obviously know very little about singles, or radio. Perhaps you should stop posting for a while, do some research and learn a thing or two. Then you MAY be able to have a somewhat educated opinion about things. If anybody disagrees with me on this please feel free to comment. Oh plz. Compare the song to her other singles, its a flop. Get over it. Don't make me say what you already know. Kthx. NEXT.
|
|
sterock85
Charting
Joined: January 2007
Posts: 395
|
Post by sterock85 on Jan 23, 2007 21:43:26 GMT -5
Oh plz. Compare the song to her other singles, its a flop. Get over it. Don't make me say what you already know. Kthx. NEXT. But its not even a proper single ...i dont think it matters one bit how well a song does..it doesnt change the fact that i like it and so do many others.
|
|
Felicia
9x Platinum Member
will you love me, even with my dark side?
Joined: March 2006
Posts: 9,875
|
Post by Felicia on Jan 23, 2007 21:57:18 GMT -5
She can insist it as a flop for all she wants but in fact the song still has bullet and is climbing up the chart. Just leave her and her opinion alone.
|
|
MyLastView
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2006
Posts: 10,833
|
Post by MyLastView on Jan 23, 2007 22:22:30 GMT -5
*Sexy-Sugah! - (though I highly doubt you are either) Boring - that is you opinion and that is ok. Flopped - you're just wrong: 1) KHO is already a GOLD single and will be Platinum next week. 2) It's still in the top 10 on iTunes (without a video or a record out) 3) It's her highest charted 1st week on Billboard ever 4) It's her highest radio charted single in Canada EVER 5) It is top 15 on Hot AC radio 6) It's number 28 on CHR pop Mediabase Maybe you should get your facts straight. You obviously know very little about singles, or radio. Perhaps you should stop posting for a while, do some research and learn a thing or two. Then you MAY be able to have a somewhat educated opinion about things. If anybody disagrees with me on this please feel free to comment. I 100% agree.
|
|
Chaotic Kissed A Pinkch!
Platinum Member
2.5.08 - Robyn, 6.29.08 - Katy Perry, 6.30.08 - Veronicas & Natasha Bedingfield
Joined: November 2005
Posts: 1,359
|
Post by Chaotic Kissed A Pinkch! on Jan 23, 2007 22:53:40 GMT -5
I can't believe someone would be stupid enough to dispute Doctor Luke on anything related to music. Not that I'm dogmatic and believe he's always right, but credibility, experience and industry knowledge totally side with him. Quit hiding behind the internet and think about whether or not you'd say it to his face, because as a fan I really would rather not read the overcompensating remarks of a nobody.
|
|
|
Post by justfloating on Jan 23, 2007 22:58:10 GMT -5
People, these are opinions; despite expertise, her opinion should not be dismissed. She feels that it's a flop. The quicker you move on and focus on the positive energy with the song, the better. You are not going to change her opinion, flaunting your years of experience or industry knowledge. That goes for Luke and the rest of you. Its her life, let her live it the way she wants. It is completely irrelevant that you all agree with Luke; guess what, that doesnt make her any more wrong.
|
|
|
Post by When I Ruled the World on Jan 23, 2007 23:14:21 GMT -5
Oh plz. Compare the song to her other singles, its a flop. Get over it. Don't make me say what you already know. Kthx. NEXT. Even though I love this song.. I love your guts! I'm glad you said what you did... you go girl! Everyone giving their honest opinion is what this board should be about. We are lucky that we have Dr Luke here... and we are lucky that we have Jennifa here. I personally think this is a great song.. but it's great to argue the song's merits among those who don't like the song. Personally I think this thread is much more exciting with Jennifa's dislike of the song (and Dr Luke's taking up for the song). Keep on b***hing! And I hope the song keeps on rising! It deserves Top 10!
|
|
MyLastView
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2006
Posts: 10,833
|
Post by MyLastView on Jan 23, 2007 23:24:26 GMT -5
People, these are opinions; despite expertise, her opinion should not be dismissed. She feels that it's a flop. The quicker you move on and focus on the positive energy with the song, the better. You are not going to change her opinion, flaunting your years of experience or industry knowledge. That goes for Luke and the rest of you. Its her life, let her live it the way she wants. It is completely irrelevant that you all agree with Luke; guess what, that doesnt make her any more wrong. Just because something is irrelevant doesn't mean we don't have the right to post it. So why don't you stop making IRRELEVANT posts if you plan on practicing what you preach, eh?
|
|
John77
Diamond Member
Carrie Pass
Joined: December 2005
Posts: 11,149
|
Post by John77 on Jan 24, 2007 2:58:26 GMT -5
Gotta just love this song's perseverance!
29 26 AVRIL LAVIGNE Keep Holding On 1914 1647 267 12.231
Looking like this might just sneak into the top 20 without any label support... how awesome is that???
|
|
John77
Diamond Member
Carrie Pass
Joined: December 2005
Posts: 11,149
|
Post by John77 on Jan 24, 2007 3:02:50 GMT -5
Oh plz. Compare the song to her other singles, its a flop. Get over it. Don't make me say what you already know. Kthx. NEXT. Let's see... well it's already outpeaked "Fall To Pieces" and "He Wasn't"... Just because you personally hate a song doesn't make it a flop... this record's not getting any promo at all... it's doing it on it's own. With 4 of the 5 songs ahead of her unbulleted, it's looking like this will get to #22 or so pretty quick.
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 24, 2007 3:11:08 GMT -5
There are opinions and there are facts. 2 different things.... It's an opinion to say "my favorite color is green".... But you are wrong if you say "the world is flat" - that is not a matter of opinion, it's incorrect. It's only a matter of opinion if you are stupid. One can say I hate a song and that is cool. but to say a song is a flop when it's platinum and rising on the charts is just incorrect and not a matter of opinion. This song is her biggest EVER on Canadian radio. It was #1 in Japan. It is charting everywhere and it's a slow gainer.... Truth be told... Nobody can really call how much bigger it will be.... Nobody knows yet.... But it's not a flop. Period.
|
|
MusicJunkie
6x Platinum Member
Joined: April 2005
Posts: 6,807
|
Post by MusicJunkie on Jan 24, 2007 6:39:21 GMT -5
Umm, why are people taking Jennifer's remarks seriously? ???
|
|
Jennifa
4x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 4,324
|
Post by Jennifa on Jan 24, 2007 12:29:37 GMT -5
There are opinions and there are facts. 2 different things.... It's an opinion to say "my favorite color is green".... But you are wrong if you say "the world is flat" - that is not a matter of opinion, it's incorrect. It's only a matter of opinion if you are stupid. One can say I hate a song and that is cool. but to say a song is a flop when it's platinum and rising on the charts is just incorrect and not a matter of opinion. This song is her biggest EVER on Canadian radio. It was #1 in Japan. It is charting everywhere and it's a slow gainer.... Truth be told... Nobody can really call how much bigger it will be.... Nobody knows yet.... But it's not a flop. Period. Where is this song Platinum? In Indonesia? Girl plz. And her biggest hit ever on Canadian radio? Thats bullshit. Her first few singles all went to #1 on the Pop chart there and this one isn't #1, so how does that make it the biggest? Maybe you should check your facts before you say things like that.
|
|
JayBoozer
7x Platinum Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 7,695
|
Post by JayBoozer on Jan 24, 2007 14:10:00 GMT -5
There are opinions and there are facts. 2 different things.... It's an opinion to say "my favorite color is green".... But you are wrong if you say "the world is flat" - that is not a matter of opinion, it's incorrect. It's only a matter of opinion if you are stupid. One can say I hate a song and that is cool. but to say a song is a flop when it's platinum and rising on the charts is just incorrect and not a matter of opinion. This song is her biggest EVER on Canadian radio. It was #1 in Japan. It is charting everywhere and it's a slow gainer.... Truth be told... Nobody can really call how much bigger it will be.... Nobody knows yet.... But it's not a flop. Period. Where is this song Platinum? In Indonesia? Girl plz. And her biggest hit ever on Canadian radio? Thats bulls**t. Her first few singles all went to #1 on the Pop chart there and this one isn't #1, so how does that make it the biggest? Maybe you should check your facts before you say things like that. Honestly you're allowed to have your opinions but your attitude and approach to Dr. Luke's opinions is completely uncalled for.
|
|
Jennifa
4x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 4,324
|
Post by Jennifa on Jan 24, 2007 14:31:38 GMT -5
Umm nothing is wrong with my attitude. He said something that isn't true and is trying to make me seem like I'm some retard when really he's the one posting FALSE info.
Sorry, but Dr Luke isn't some God and I'm not going to worship him like some people here do.
|
|
Felicia
9x Platinum Member
will you love me, even with my dark side?
Joined: March 2006
Posts: 9,875
|
Post by Felicia on Jan 24, 2007 14:54:24 GMT -5
29 25 AVRIL LAVIGNE Keep Holding On 1957 1694 263 12.364
Still climbing. I think this will do similar to 'Waiting On The World To Change'. Slow & steady climb to the Top 20 and overtaken by the huge bulleted songs.
|
|
|
Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 24, 2007 16:20:27 GMT -5
Umm nothing is wrong with my attitude. He said something that isn't true and is trying to make me seem like I'm some retard when really he's the one posting FALSE info. Sorry, but Dr Luke isn't some God and I'm not going to worship him like some people here do.
At least *TRY* to be respectful. Not just to him, but everyone here.
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 24, 2007 16:58:30 GMT -5
Keep Holding On 432,752 SoundScan. (Do you need somebody to explain to you what that is? I'm sure somebody on The Pulse can bring you up to speed) And, last I checked that IS Platinum for single (The numbers don't lie........ ) Can somebody please tell me how a Platinum single that is Top 30 on radio and top 20 on Hot AC is a flop?....... And it Keeps Holding ON...
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 24, 2007 16:59:18 GMT -5
On a side note.... I called Fox the other day and it was the hold music..... wierd...
|
|
Jennifa
4x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 4,324
|
Post by Jennifa on Jan 24, 2007 17:00:03 GMT -5
Maybe you should check again because the certifications were changed ages ago. Platinum = 1M now.
And I see that you admit that its not her biggest hit in Canada.
Thankyouverymuch.
|
|
|
Post by bubblepop15 on Jan 24, 2007 17:00:34 GMT -5
Keep Holding On 432,752 SoundScan. (Do you need somebody to explain to you what that is? I'm sure somebody on The Pulse can bring you up to speed) And, last I checked that IS Platinum for single (The numbers don't lie........ ) 500,000 = gold (US) 1,000,000 = platinum (US)
|
|
|
Post by thedoctorluke on Jan 24, 2007 17:40:42 GMT -5
And I see that you admit that its not her biggest hit in Canada. - What I said was highest charting and that is still true..... You are in fact wrong, again..... But as others have posted why take anything to write seriously???.... Let's take a vote.... I think I'll win 500,000 = gold (US) 1,000,000 = platinum (US) - Tic Toc, that is for records not singles. And there is a separate category for Digital Singles........ Gold is 200 singles.
|
|
JayBoozer
7x Platinum Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 7,695
|
Post by JayBoozer on Jan 24, 2007 17:43:40 GMT -5
I thought they changed digital single status for platinum and gold to 1,000,000 and 500,000 now...
|
|
Pulse
Diamond Member
I'm feelin' for a Pulse
Joined: November 2005
Posts: 12,890
|
Post by Pulse on Jan 24, 2007 17:46:00 GMT -5
Jennifer and Tick Tock and Justin are right. 500K is the new level for Gold (and 1 Million for Platinum) now for downloads.
|
|
|
Post by bubblepop15 on Jan 24, 2007 17:46:17 GMT -5
And I see that you admit that its not her biggest hit in Canada. - What I said was highest charting and that is still true..... You are in fact wrong, again..... But as others have posted why take anything to write seriously???.... Let's take a vote.... I think I'll win 500,000 = gold (US) 1,000,000 = platinum (US) - Tic Toc, that is for records not singles. And there is a separate category for Digital Singles........ Gold is 200 singles. No, they changed it about a year ago. It used to be be gold = 100,000, platinum = 200,000 etc... But after digital sales skyrocketed, they raised it and now the certifications are the same as albums in the US. But it looks like KHO will easily sell over 500k, and a gold-selling single is just great.
|
|
MyLastView
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2006
Posts: 10,833
|
Post by MyLastView on Jan 24, 2007 17:56:43 GMT -5
Alright, can we all stop arguing? I think we've all said how feel, now move along.
This may be a bit off-topic, but can anyone tell me how the points system for singles works?
|
|
|
Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 24, 2007 17:58:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I certainly don't think it is her biggest hit in Canada. I'd like to know on which chart it is her highest charting single though. The overall airplay chart? The Hot AC chart? I don't really know her peak positions for any of those other than my assumption that I'd be surprised if she's never had a #1 on either of those before.
|
|
Jennifa
4x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2005
Posts: 4,324
|
Post by Jennifa on Jan 24, 2007 19:59:49 GMT -5
Well its not on the overall chart or the pop chart or the hot ac chart since many of her singles have gone #1 on all those and this isn't #1 on any.
Dr Luke, you think you know everything but guess what, you don't. You've been proved wrong TWICE now.
|
|