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Post by Hervard on Oct 20, 2005 20:41:00 GMT -5
I know I'm a few weeks behind, but on the principle of "better late than never"....
For this month, we're going back to the year that Madonna was standing in the Rain, but Blind Melon complained that there was No Rain. Nevertheless, it carried Billy Joel down the River Of Dreams where Toni Braxton was singing Another Sad Love Song and Taylor Dayne was begging Send Me A Lover and Haddaway was asking What Is Love anyway? It was 1993, and the first chart is R&R's CHR/Pop chart from October 8, 1993:
LC TC wc SONG/ARTIST 01 01 11 Dreamlover/Mariah Carey (8th week #1) 04 02 10 Another Sad Love Song/Toni Braxton 05 03 11 The River Of Dreams/Billy Joel 03 04 12 Right Here/Human Nature/SWV 02 05 12 If/Janet Jackson 09 06 08 Two Steps Behind/Def Leppard 07 07 11 Cryin'/Aerosmith 11 08 05 No Rain/Blind Melon 12 09 06 What Is Love/Haddaway 10 10 09 Reason To Believe/Rod Stewart 16 11 03 All That She Wants/Ace Of Base 06 12 06 Runaway Love/En Vogue f/D-Mob 13 13 09 Hey Jealousy/Gin Blossoms 15 14 07 Better Than You/Lisa Keith 19 15 04 I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)/Meat Loaf 08 16 09 Sweat (A La La La La Long)/Inner Circle 17 17 06 Hopelessly/Rick Astley 18 18 06 Too Much Information/Duran Duran 36 19 02 Again/Janet Jackson 21 20 05 Soul To Squeeze/Red Hot Chili Peppers 23 21 04 Pink Cashmere/Prince 29 23 03 Anniversary/Tony! Toni! Tone! 14 24 15 Lately/Jodeci 30 25 04 Human Wheels/John Mellencamp 22 26 13 Break It Down Again/Tears For Fears 35 27 02 Wild World/Mr. Big 20 28 07 Sunday Morning/Earth Wind & Fire 40 29 02 Hey Mr. DJ/Zhane 27 30 06 Boom! Shake The Room/Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince 28 31 18 Baby I'm Yours/Shai 37 32 03 Nothing 'Bout Me/Sting 39 33 02 Send Me A Lover/Taylor Dayne XX 34 01 Jimmy Olsen's Blues/Spin Doctors 24 35 14 Will You Be There/Michael Jackson XX 36 01 Just Kickin' It/Xscape 26 37 14 Rain/Madonna XX 38 01 Let Me Ride/Dr. Dre 38 39 05 I Get Around/2Pac XX 40 01 Downtown/SWV
Dropped: #31: If I Had No Loot/Tony! Toni! Tone! (17 weeks) #32: Runaway Train/Soul Asylum (17 weeks) #33: Delicate/Terence Trent D'arby (5 weeks) #34: Ooh Child/Dino (13 weeks)
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Post by MinusName on Oct 20, 2005 21:11:57 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't know that was from 1993, I thought it was more like 1995! I honestly don't recognize a majority of these songs my the title and artist, there are a few obvious ones, the ones that still get some decent airplay and videoplay today, such as Blind Melon, Ace of Base, and Gin Blossoms, but that's about it.
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Post by Hervard on Oct 20, 2005 21:53:03 GMT -5
Now, here's my version of the above chart.
LC TC wc SONG/ARTIST 17 01 04 Again/Janet Jackson 01 02 11 Dreamlover/Mariah Carey 03 03 08 Two Steps Behind/Def Leppard 04 04 11 Cryin'/Aerosmith 02 05 12 If/Janet Jackson 06 06 11 Another Sad Love Song/Toni Braxton 07 07 12 Right Here/Human Nature/SWV 08 08 11 The River Of Dreams/Billy Joel 09 09 07 Hopelessly/Rick Astley 14 10 04 All That She Wants/Ace Of Base 15 11 07 Better Than You/Lisa Keith 05 12 15 Lately/Jodeci 16 13 06 What Is Love/Haddaway 12 14 09 Reason To Believe/Rod Stewart 13 15 09 Hey Jealousy/Gin Blossoms 10 16 14 Rain/Madonna 18 17 05 No Rain/Blind Melon 14 18 06 Runaway Love/En Vogue f/D-Mob 22 19 04 I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)/Meat Loaf 11 20 09 Sweat (A La La La La Long)/Inner Circle 21 21 05 Too Much Information/Duran Duran 26 22 05 Soul To Squeeze/Red Hot Chili Peppers 28 23 03 Everybody Hurts/R.E.M. 20 24 07 Sunday Morning/Earth Wind & Fire 30 25 03 Anniversary/Tony! Toni! Tone! 31 26 04 Human Wheels/John Mellencamp 27 27 06 Boom! Shake The Room/Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince 29 28 04 Pink Cashmere/Prince 23 29 14 Will You Be There/Michael Jackson 25 30 18 One Last Cry/Brian McKnight 38 31 02 Wild World/Mr. Big 35 32 03 Nothing 'Bout Me/Sting 37 33 02 Send Me A Lover/Taylor Dayne 40 34 02 Hey Mr. DJ/Zhane 32 35 19 Baby I'm Yours/Shai XX 36 01 Jimmy Olsen's Blues/Spin Doctors 33 37 13 Break It Down Again/Tears For Fears 24 38 19 Runaway Train/Soul Asylum XX 39 01 Just Kickin' It/Xscape 34 40 20 Can't Help Falling In Love/UB40
Dropped: #36: If I Had No Loot/Tony! Toni! Tone! #39: Ooh Child/Dino
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Post by mst3k on Oct 20, 2005 22:58:58 GMT -5
Wow... someone sure liked "Again"! (No argument here, I love it too.)
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Post by Hervard on Oct 21, 2005 8:38:42 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't know that was from 1993, I thought it was more like 1995! Soul Asylum did have a hit in 1995 called "Misery" (aka "Frustrated Incorporated"), though it was nowhere near as big a hit as "Runaway Train".
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Post by Hervard on Oct 21, 2005 8:51:15 GMT -5
Wow... someone sure liked "Again"! (No argument here, I love it too.) The thing about "Again" is that it was my favorite song at the time and, back in 1993, before songs started sticking around the chart for most of the year, I ranked the Top 40 songs of the year according to my preference. However, "Again" came onto the chart too late in the year to gain too many points (just barely made the Top 40 of the year), so I ranked it the best I could. I used its early action on many stations to my advantage and debuted it two weeks ahead of time and decided to have it jump to number one the week it broke wide open on the R&R Pop chart. The song came in at #22 for the year and, since the song was way overplayed, by the time I was done with these charts in spring, 2004, I had gotten tired of the song and #22 was about right. (BTW, its monster jump to #1 was by far the biggest move to #1 ever on my version of the charts. I have no idea what the second biggest move was. I know that "Thriller" by Janet's brother Michael took a jump from 8 to 1 back in early 1984. I'll have to check my charts to look for other huge jumps to the top, but I'm sure that nothing came anywhere near the 17 to 1 jump for "Again". It's a good thing that "All That She Wants" was my least favorite song of the year. If I had liked that song, I'd have been SOL. You'll also notice that "Hopelessly" by Rick Astley is ranked significantly higher on my chart than on R&R. Both songs had reached their peak positions the week before, and I felt that "Hopelessly", another fave of mine, had gotten cheated, especially after it made a promising debut at #28, but then it slowed its ascent quite significantly. On my chart, it made big moves the first few weeks, then slowed down as it made its way to #9. Another song that I felt was underrated in 1993 was "Better Than You" by Lisa Keith. As the song was clearly running out of gas on the R&R chart, it was still going strong on my chart, moving from 15 to 11. It would hit the Top Ten while on the R&R chart, it would peak at #13. On R&R's year end survey, the song would be the second highest ranked non-top ten song, trailing only "Fields Of Gold" by Sting. Brick Wall Syndrome really materialized for "Runaway Love" by En Vogue featuring F-Mob. The song wasted no time at all racing up the chart to #6 (where it peaked in only its fourth week). Then it fell down the chart practically as fast as it climbed and ended up spending only nine weeks on the chart. On my version of the chart, since the Top Ten was very congested around this time (with songs in the Top 40 of the year, whose chart runs had already been planned out), as well as the fact that I didn't really like the song, it only got as high as #14.
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Post by Libra on Oct 21, 2005 9:01:06 GMT -5
What other charts do you plan to flashback to on this same date?[/font]
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Post by Hervard on Oct 21, 2005 10:15:52 GMT -5
What other charts do you plan to flashback to on this same date? [/font][/quote] My next chart will be my Personal Top 30 for this date (actually, its date is actually October 10, but that's the same week). After that - well, I'll surprise you. :)
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Post by 620 Soul Train on Oct 21, 2005 11:53:24 GMT -5
Your chart is simular to the main chart, I can barely see any difference, really.
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Post by Hervard on Oct 22, 2005 21:17:27 GMT -5
Well, there's definitely a difference between the R&R chart and my personal Top 30 chart, the latter of which is featured here. As stated above, this is the October 10, 1993 edition of the chart:
LC TC wc SONG/ARTIST 01 01 07 Hopelessly/Rick Astley 02 02 13 The Colors Of Love/Lisa Fischer 03 03 22 A Bad Goodbye/Clint Black f/Wynonna 04 04 39 Love Is/Vanessa Williams w/Brian McKnight 05 05 12 Jessie/Joshua Kadison 06 06 21 Silence Is Broken/Damn Yankees 07 07 10 I Just Had To Hear Your Voice/Oleta Adams 08 08 16 It's Alright/Huey Lewis & The News 12 09 05 Better Than You/Lisa Keith 10 10 09 You Make Me Smile/Dave Koz 11 11 15 I Should Be Laughing/Patty Smyth 13 12 07 Lately/Jodeci 19 13 03 The Moment You Were Mine/Beth Nielsen Chapman 09 14 24 Even A Fool Can See/Peter Cetera 16 15 31 Somewhere, Somehow/Michael W. Smith f/Amy Grant 17 16 08 C'mon People/Paul McCartney 14 17 16 One Last Cry/Brian McKnight 15 18 11 Wide River/Steve Miller Band 23 19 03 Again/Janet Jackson 22 20 04 Hey Jealousy/Gin Blossoms 21 21 06 Runaway Train/Soul Asylum 18 22 19 Don't Take Away My Heaven/Aaron Neville 28 23 02 Loving Arms/Darden Smith 20 24 14 I'm Free/Jon Secada 26 25 05 When I Fall In Love/Celine Dion w/Clive Griffin 27 26 03 Send Me A Lover/Taylor Dayne XX 27 01 Nothing 'Bout Me/Sting 30 28 02 Boom! Shake The Room/Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince 25 29 15 Everything's So Different Without You/Billy Ocean XX 30 01 Heaven Knows/Luther Vandross
Dropped: #24: Someone Like You/James Ingram (10 weeks) #29: I Don't Wanna Fight/Tina Turner (10 weeks)
Up & Coming: As Long As I Can Dream/Expose Everybody Hurts/R.E.M. What Is Love/Haddaway
Rick Astley was spending his second of seven weeks at #1 on my chart, having dethroned "The Colors Of Love" by Lisa Fischer, which had also spent seven weeks on the chart. But neither song topped the year end chart. Several songs were way ahead of them in that department. One of these songs was the album cut from Michael W. Smith's "Change Your World" CD, which he had released about a year before. He'd long since stopped pumping out releases from that album (the last one was "Picture Perfect", which was a flop on the AC chart (but I think it did well at Christian radio, which I wasn't yet listening to). Anyway, I had bought the album back in March, 1993, around the time that "Somebody Love Me" was starting to climb the Pop charts and when I heard "Somewhere, Somehow", I just loved it. It's a shame he didn't release the song because it included Amy Grant on it. I think it would have done well at Pop and Christian radio, but unfortunately, that was not to be. It sure did well on my chart, spending seven weeks on top, like the Rick Astley and Lisa Fischer songs and, by year's end, was still hanging around in the top 20, in its 42nd week on the chart. Needless to say, it remained on the chart well into 1994. Another song that was way ahead of "Hopelessly" and "Colors" was Clint Black's duet with Wynonna, "A Bad Goodbye". I don't think that song touched Pop radio, but at work back in late April, someone had the country station on and I heard that song and, like the Smith/Grant collaboration, I fell in love with it instantly. It debuted on my chart the next week and wasted no time getting to #1, where it stayed for nine weeks. There was another song that grossed a ton of points and it barely touched the Top Five. "Silence Is Broken" by the Damn Yankees moved up the chart at a modest pace and peaked at #5 for two weeks. But its staying power of 32 weeks helped put it in the Top Five for the whole year. The song that won the top spot of 1993 by a wide margin was, as you may have guessed, "Love Is" by Vanessa Williams and Brian McKnight (wow, the duets really kicked butt during 1993!). The song spent the entire month of March at #1, but it's weeks at #1 weren't the big story, but rather, the song's tenacity. By its 39 weeks to date, as well as its high chart position, you can see that it wasn't in any hurry to leave the chart. But on the last chart of the year, it was just dropping out of the Top Fifteen, in its 50th week on. The song fell rather fast after that, since I was finally getting tired of it and spent a total of 53 weeks on the chart. Also, note all the obscure songs on this chart. I was blessed with a small market AC station that played more than just what was in the Top Ten. I mean, how many people have actually heard "C'mon People" by Paul McCartney and "Everything's So Different Without You" by Billy Ocean on the radio? Of course, nobody but nobody plays those great hits anymore, as well as a countless host of other hits on this chart alone, like "The Colors Of Love", "I Just Had To Hear Your Voice", "Loving Arms", "Heaven Knows", among others. They think we still want to hear "Because You Loved Me", "One Sweet Day", and "Truly Madly Deeply" several times a day. Well, I'll be back next week with yet another chart. Like I said above, it's a secret.
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Post by Hervard on Nov 8, 2005 8:09:10 GMT -5
Now, for the last part of the October '05 edition of "New Flashback". The chart I'm posting this time is R&R's AC chart, from the same date as the two above charts:
LC TC wc SONG/ARTIST 02 01 08 Hopelessly/Rick Astley 01 02 11 Reason To Believe/Rod Stewart 03 03 11 Dreamlover/Mariah Carey 04 04 12 River Of Dreams/Billy Joel 05 05 12 You Make Me Smile/Dave Koz 07 06 05 Fields Of Grey/Bruce Hornsby 08 07 08 The Moment You Were Mine/Beth Nielsen Chapman 11 08 07 Another Sad Love Song/Toni Braxton 06 09 13 Rain/Madonna 09 10 11 I Stand For You/Michael McDonald 12 11 09 I Just Had To Hear Your Voice/Oleta Adams 13 12 09 Loving Arms/Darden Smith 10 13 16 When I Fall In Love/Celine Dion w/Clive Griffin 16 14 04 Send Me A Lover/Taylor Dayne 14 15 17 I'm Free/Jon Secada 20 16 04 Don't Fall Apart On Me Tonight/Aaron Neville 17 17 07 Heaven Knows/Luther Vandross 26 18 02 This Is It/Kenny Loggins 23 19 03 As Long As I Can Dream/Expose 18 20 19 Fields Of Gold/Sting 15 21 15 One Last Cry/Brian McKnight 28 22 02 Nothing 'Bout Me/Sting 19 23 13 Will You Be There/Michael Jackson 22 24 05 I'm In A Philly Mood/Daryl Hall 27 25 03 Better Than You/Lisa Keith 30 26 02 Let Me Show You/Dan Hill 29 27 02 Whisper A Prayer/Mica Paris 21 28 23 I Don't Wanna Fight/Tina Turner 25 29 04 Sunday Morning/Earth Wind & Fire XX 30 01 If We Were Lovers/Gloria Estefan
Dropped: #24: Runaway Train/Soul Asylum (5 weeks)
Yes, the AC chart actually did have some movement back in the early 1990s. This was a rather slow chart but, as you can see, there were four debuts the week before. As I said earlier, the station I listened to was a small market station that played just about everything and, as a result, there are only two songs that I've never heard before, the Dan Hill song and the Mica Paris song - that I know of. The station might have played the songs when I wasn't really paying much attention or I might very well have heard them at the store. Well, I'll try to kick off the November Flashback series soon.
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Post by BillboardBoy on Nov 8, 2005 10:20:48 GMT -5
LC TC wc SONG/ARTIST 01 01 11 Dreamlover/Mariah Carey (8th week #1) 04 02 10 Another Sad Love Song/Toni Braxton 05 03 11 The River Of Dreams/Billy Joel 03 04 12 Right Here/Human Nature/SWV 02 05 12 If/Janet Jackson 09 06 08 Two Steps Behind/Def Leppard 07 07 11 Cryin'/Aerosmith 11 08 05 No Rain/Blind Melon 12 09 06 What Is Love/Haddaway 10 10 09 Reason To Believe/Rod Stewart 16 11 03 All That She Wants/Ace Of Base 06 12 06 Runaway Love/En Vogue f/D-Mob 13 13 09 Hey Jealousy/Gin Blossoms 15 14 07 Better Than You/Lisa Keith 19 15 04 I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)/Meat Loaf 08 16 09 Sweat (A La La La La Long)/Inner Circle 17 17 06 Hopelessly/Rick Astley 18 18 06 Too Much Information/Duran Duran 36 19 02 Again/Janet Jackson 21 20 05 Soul To Squeeze/Red Hot Chili Peppers 23 21 04 Pink Cashmere/Prince 29 23 03 Anniversary/Tony! Toni! Tone! 14 24 15 Lately/Jodeci 30 25 04 Human Wheels/John Mellencamp 22 26 13 Break It Down Again/Tears For Fears 35 27 02 Wild World/Mr. Big 20 28 07 Sunday Morning/Earth Wind & Fire 40 29 02 Hey Mr. DJ/Zhane 27 30 06 Boom! Shake The Room/Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince 28 31 18 Baby I'm Yours/Shai 37 32 03 Nothing 'Bout Me/Sting 39 33 02 Send Me A Lover/Taylor Dayne XX 34 01 Jimmy Olsen's Blues/Spin Doctors 24 35 14 Will You Be There/Michael Jackson XX 36 01 Just Kickin' It/Xscape 26 37 14 Rain/Madonna XX 38 01 Let Me Ride/Dr. Dre 38 39 05 I Get Around/2Pac XX 40 01 Downtown/SWV I remember hearing Rick Dees introduce "Downtown." He started playing Petula Clark's version :)
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Post by johnnywest on Jan 4, 2015 21:16:13 GMT -5
LC TC wc SONG/ARTIST 02 01 08 Hopelessly/Rick Astley 01 02 11 Reason To Believe/Rod Stewart 03 03 11 Dreamlover/Mariah Carey 04 04 12 River Of Dreams/Billy Joel 05 05 12 You Make Me Smile/Dave Koz 07 06 05 Fields Of Grey/Bruce Hornsby 08 07 08 The Moment You Were Mine/Beth Nielsen Chapman 11 08 07 Another Sad Love Song/Toni Braxton 06 09 13 Rain/Madonna 09 10 11 I Stand For You/Michael McDonald 12 11 09 I Just Had To Hear Your Voice/Oleta Adams 13 12 09 Loving Arms/Darden Smith 10 13 16 When I Fall In Love/Celine Dion w/Clive Griffin 16 14 04 Send Me A Lover/Taylor Dayne 14 15 17 I'm Free/Jon Secada 20 16 04 Don't Fall Apart On Me Tonight/Aaron Neville 17 17 07 Heaven Knows/Luther Vandross 26 18 02 This Is It/Kenny Loggins 23 19 03 As Long As I Can Dream/Expose 18 20 19 Fields Of Gold/Sting 15 21 15 One Last Cry/Brian McKnight 28 22 02 Nothing 'Bout Me/Sting 19 23 13 Will You Be There/Michael Jackson 22 24 05 I'm In A Philly Mood/Daryl Hall 27 25 03 Better Than You/Lisa Keith 30 26 02 Let Me Show You/Dan Hill 29 27 02 Whisper A Prayer/Mica Paris 21 28 23 I Don't Wanna Fight/Tina Turner 25 29 04 Sunday Morning/Earth Wind & Fire XX 30 01 If We Were Lovers/Gloria Estefan It's funny to see how quick the turnover was at AC radio back then. The oldest was only 23 weeks in the Top 30.
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