Leona Lewis - "Echo" Era (17th NOV 09)

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Doesn't hang out with black people?



LOL. Either way, the average person buying records doesn't know or give a chit about who artists hang out with, lol.

And Leona made ONE album full of 90's music. Her sophomore clearly won't be.

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zOMG SHE DOESN'T LIKE BLACK PPL!!!1







what an evil bitch. >:(

[BrokenArrow]

Jul 20, 2009 9:45:55 GMT -5 Alex said:

tsw2008, when Leona has her first 10 singles reach #1 on Pop get back to me.

Oops! She only had 1 #1 (Damn, who doesn't?) and the rest are flops. While Leona and Mariah do get compared to a lot (both beautiful, light-skinned amazing singers), one UNDERSTANDS the music business and other doesn't.

Mariah knows she needs to update her music which is why she has hits EVERY YEAR for 20 years. While Leona is still living in the 90s releasing Celine Dion/Music Box type songs. Sit that a$$ down LeLe. Also Mariah isn't racist and loves to hang out with both white and black, while LeLe hangs out with only white people. That's why Black Americans do NOT claim LeLe.

First 10 singles go #1, thats amazing !

I guess she must have tanked on this side of the pond, cos I couldn't name any of them.

I know a lot of Madonna songs though, she did very well over here, probably because she's white.

[clarksodi]

Is this point of view about her not hanging out with black people the reason she hasn't been as successful serious? That's ridiculous beyond belief. Are you serious about this Unusual-Me? Your other points are all incredibly valid, though.

I don't understand why the record company is so willing to invest so much money into this girl. Yes, she has an incredible voice, but it's not anything that hasn't been seen yet (Over the top vocals are not really popular at the time being). There's something about her that just doesn't click for me (charisma / attitude, maybe). She's only had 1 huge single, and the label is readying her for an arena tour? Seriously?

I'll still buy her records (there were some pretty good songs on her CD the first time), but I'm not banking too much on her becoming a huge success in the states.

[Legend-ona Lewis]

Jul 20, 2009 11:26:21 GMT -5 clarksodi said:

I don't understand why the record company is so willing to invest so much money into this girl. Yes, she has an incredible voice, but it's not anything that hasn't been seen yet

You, just a general member of the public, are questioning why record label executives, with decades experience and knowledge of the industry, are investing vast amounts of money and time into her? Surely they see something your limited vision doesn't.

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Who exactly is bringing something that hasn't been seen before? It's 2009, EVERYTHING has been done.

& they're investing in her because Spirit is the highest selling debut album WW from a female artist in the past few years. It's a no brainer.

[clarksodi]

No, EVERYTHING has not been done yet. Every year, there's always someone who brings something new and exciting to the table (Lady Gaga, Swift, and Shakira to name a few--not great vocalists compared to Leona, but they do bring something new and exciting). Leona did it with Bleeding Love, but that type of hit is very rare to accomplish over and over again. Only time will tell if she'll do it again, but she really hasn't made that big of a name in the US. Britney and Christina, for example, were household names after their first albums. Sales removed, Leona still did not become a popular sensation in the US. It may come down to her seeming lack of versatility (She sounds phenomenal singing 90s power ballads, but she's only 24 to be only doing that).

It may be the highest selling debut album, but she received the Royal treatment from the moment she signed. The higher the investment, the higher the return (at least as far as the album were concerned). I now think they're going in excess of what she's capable of actually selling, which may lead to the sales being disappointing. Then again, the higher the risk, the higher the return (hopefully). She may be the biggest celebrity in the UK and Europe, but the US craves exciting and new. Only her sophomore album will tell what her career will be like in the US.

[Legend-ona Lewis]

LOL You can tell Mariah and Kelly Clarkson (both of whom I am a fan of) aren't exactly dominating the scene right now, cos there fans are all up in this thread trashing LeLe.

[Legend-ona Lewis]

Or maybe it's that Britney fans like 'Unusual-Me' have finally come to their senses; and realised that while they're paying hundreds of pounds to watch some wooden hag mime her hits badly, Leona fans will pay a fraction of the price for a real vocal genius to blow us away whilst singing the biggest worlwide hit of the last few years.

Bitterness is such an unattractive characteristic.

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Jul 20, 2009 12:41:18 GMT -5 clarksodi said:

No, EVERYTHING has not been done yet. Every year, there's always someone who brings something new and exciting to the table (Lady Gaga, Swift, and Shakira to name a few--not great vocalists compared to Leona, but they do bring something new and exciting). Leona did it with Bleeding Love, but that type of hit is very rare to accomplish over and over again. Only time will tell if she'll do it again, but she really hasn't made that big of a name in the US. Britney and Christina, for example, were household names after their first albums. Sales removed, Leona still did not become a popular sensation in the US. It may come down to her seeming lack of versatility (She sounds phenomenal singing 90s power ballads, but she's only 24 to be only doing that).

It may be the highest selling debut album, but she received the Royal treatment from the moment she signed. The higher the investment, the higher the return (at least as far as the album were concerned). I now think they're going in excess of what she's capable of actually selling, which may lead to the sales being disappointing. Then again, the higher the risk, the higher the return (hopefully). She may be the biggest celebrity in the UK and Europe, but the US craves exciting and new. Only her sophomore album will tell what her career will be like in the US.

Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift and Shakira are not doing anything that hasn't been done before, lol. Lady Gaga's whole persona is derivative, something which she admits and embraces herself. And her music is capitalizing on the electropop trend at the moment which is definitely nothing new.

Shakira's era has barely started so we'll see where that goes. I love her though.

Taylor Swift isn't even worth mentioning. She is just as "boring" on stage as Leona is, only she doesn't have the pipes to back it up. I'll take Carrie Underwood any day.

[mark_mc]

Come on guys don't swoop to their level of below the belt comments about other artists. It is not better than the clowns that have been coming on this thread recently.

Leona doesn't have to prove anything in my eyes so that is exactly why I am ignoring the clearly non constructive comments a couple of posts ago.

Let the new (sure to be massive) album do the talking :)

[S_Bunny]

Jul 20, 2009 12:41:18 GMT -5 clarksodi said:

No, EVERYTHING has not been done yet. Every year, there's always someone who brings something new and exciting to the table (Lady Gaga, Swift, and Shakira to name a few--not great vocalists compared to Leona, but they do bring something new and exciting). Leona did it with Bleeding Love, but that type of hit is very rare to accomplish over and over again. Only time will tell if she'll do it again, but she really hasn't made that big of a name in the US. Britney and Christina, for example, were household names after their first albums. Sales removed, Leona still did not become a popular sensation in the US. It may come down to her seeming lack of versatility (She sounds phenomenal singing 90s power ballads, but she's only 24 to be only doing that).

It may be the highest selling debut album, but she received the Royal treatment from the moment she signed. The higher the investment, the higher the return (at least as far as the album were concerned). I now think they're going in excess of what she's capable of actually selling, which may lead to the sales being disappointing. Then again, the higher the risk, the higher the return (hopefully). She may be the biggest celebrity in the UK and Europe, but the US craves exciting and new. Only her sophomore album will tell what her career will be like in the US.

I don't think anyone believe Leona is massive star in the US, she's far from but she's not the 'exciting' celebrity kind so she'll only ever be big because of her voice and her songs (which are hopefully amazing on the new album).
She won't ever be in the magazine's for acting crazy and being exciting but I would never change that, I like her the way she is.

Come on guys don't swoop to their level of below the belt comments about other artists. It is not better than the clowns that have been coming on this thread recently.

Leona doesn't have to prove anything in my eyes so that is exactly why I am ignoring the clearly non constructive comments a couple of posts ago.

Let the new (sure to be massive) album do the talking

I agree :)

[clarksodi]

Jul 20, 2009 12:58:15 GMT -5 ©!nful said:

Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift and Shakira are not doing anything that hasn't been done before, lol. Lady Gaga's whole persona is derivative, something which she admits and embraces herself. And her music is capitalizing on the electropop trend at the moment which is definitely nothing new.

Shakira's era has barely started so we'll see where that goes. I love her though.

Taylor Swift isn't even worth mentioning. She is just as "boring" on stage as Leona is, only she doesn't have the pipes to back it up. I'll take Carrie Underwood any day.

All three are what people right now label as innovators. And if there's one thing the American Market rewards more than anything is innovation (regardless of my strong dislike for Swift and Gag-a).

I think Leona's phenomenal. I'm not bashing on her talent whatsoever. I just don't see why the label is investing so much money on someone who has only had one massive hit, that's all. Potential, definitely, but until I hear the second CD, I'm not banking on her in the US.

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I see what you mean with your second paragraph but I can't help but laugh at the thought of Swift being regarded as an innovator, lol. She's a cute girl playing cute songs on her guitar. The preteens which make up a large portion of her fanbase don't care about innovation, they just want something catchy to hum while they're bored in class.

[clarksodi]

Jul 20, 2009 13:23:25 GMT -5 ©!nful said:

I see what you mean with your second paragraph but I can't help but laugh at the thought of Swift being regarded as an innovator, lol. She's a cute girl playing cute songs on her guitar. The preteens which make up a large portion of her fanbase don't care about innovation, they just want something catchy to hum while they're bored in class.

Rolling Stone ranked Swift as #100 out of 100 on "The 100 People Who Are Changing America".

www.rollingstone.com/news/story/26754176/the_rs_100_agents_of_change/19

She's playing cute, immature songs that offer mass appeal to EVERY teenage girl, from country to pop, etc. This is actually pretty big for a country star to be doing.

[tsw2008]

Jul 20, 2009 13:11:25 GMT -5 clarksodi said:

I just don't see why the label is investing so much money on someone who has only had one massive hit, that's all.

Because she proved that even with only one massive hit she can sell albums (for the time being at least). Her album sales are at a superstar level even though she isn't one and might never be one only if because she is clearly not interested in being a superstar of being hugely famous.

Such "innovator" (more like a cheap attention whore, Katy Perry as well) like Lady GaGa has yet to outsell Leona in the US despite 3 huge hits and all the attention whoring she does. Why is that ?

Leona should've had at least one if not two more hits off this album to establish her more but that's the label's fault more than anything.

For as long as she keeps selling in the millions the label will keep investing money in her.

[tsw2008]

Jul 20, 2009 13:39:42 GMT -5 clarksodi said:

Jul 20, 2009 13:23:25 GMT -5 ©!nful said:

I see what you mean with your second paragraph but I can't help but laugh at the thought of Swift being regarded as an innovator, lol. She's a cute girl playing cute songs on her guitar. The preteens which make up a large portion of her fanbase don't care about innovation, they just want something catchy to hum while they're bored in class.

Rolling Stone ranked Swift as #100 out of 100 on "The 100 People Who Are Changing America".

www.rollingstone.com/news/story/26754176/the_rs_100_agents_of_change/19

She's playing cute, immature songs that offer mass appeal to EVERY teenage girl, from country to pop, etc. This is actually pretty big for a country star to be doing.

No one is denying her success. But she hardly brings "new and exciting" to the table as you stated.....yet she is still the biggest selling solo female artist in the US.

If anything her success proves that you dont have to be an attention whore to make it big.

sales speak volumes. Numbers don't lie.

[That Skipping Rope.]

Leona's boyfriend is insanely hot. It must be said.

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I actually think Katy Perry has been a breath of fresh air, she has done well just by being extremely funny. Gaga on the other hand comes across as a miserable airhead and her sound is just a rip off of whats been going on in Europe for years, America just ignores it until an American actually copies it, then they go "wow this is new".

Most Americans (not those on this board) live in a bubble.

[eon]

Jul 19, 2009 18:19:22 GMT -5 Alex said:

Leona, while talented, needs to ... work on her personality.

No, she really doesn't.

[Alex]

^^^That's sad after 3 years of video footage from LeLe all you could come up with was 2 minutes of footage of her answering stupid questions and staring at the camera blankly not knowing what to say.

I wish she would show up on Wendy Williams Radio Show. Wendy would kick her out 4 being boring just like she did with Pleasure P.

[Alex]

Jul 20, 2009 13:39:42 GMT -5 clarksodi said:

Jul 20, 2009 13:23:25 GMT -5 ©!nful said:

I see what you mean with your second paragraph but I can't help but laugh at the thought of Swift being regarded as an innovator, lol. She's a cute girl playing cute songs on her guitar. The preteens which make up a large portion of her fanbase don't care about innovation, they just want something catchy to hum while they're bored in class.

Rolling Stone ranked Swift as #100 out of 100 on "The 100 People Who Are Changing America".

www.rollingstone.com/news/story/26754176/the_rs_100_agents_of_change/19

She's playing cute, immature songs that offer mass appeal to EVERY teenage girl, from country to pop, etc. This is actually pretty big for a country star to be doing.

Rolling Stone lost ALL credibility when they gave GLITTER 4 stars back in 2001. CASE CLOSED. Swift will not change the world. Was Tina Fey and Will Ferrel on this as well? LOL

::goes to check list::

Apparently they both are with Fey @ #8. LMAO! Sit that A$$ DOWN clarksodi.

[clarksodi]

Jul 20, 2009 18:30:00 GMT -5 Alex said:

Jul 20, 2009 13:39:42 GMT -5 clarksodi said:

Rolling Stone ranked Swift as #100 out of 100 on "The 100 People Who Are Changing America".

www.rollingstone.com/news/story/26754176/the_rs_100_agents_of_change/19

She's playing cute, immature songs that offer mass appeal to EVERY teenage girl, from country to pop, etc. This is actually pretty big for a country star to be doing.

Rolling Stone lost ALL credibility when they gave GLITTER 4 stars back in 2001. CASE CLOSED. Swift will not change the world. Was Tina Fey and Will Ferrel on this as well? LOL

::goes to check list::

Apparently they both are with Fey @ #8. LMAO! Sit that A$$ DOWN clarksodi.

1. Glitter got 3 stars from RS: www.rollingstone.com/artists/mariahcarey/albums/album/148748/review/5942831/glitter

2. Tina Fey is incredibly respected in the entertainment industry. She completely revived SNL and is responsible for 30 Rock, which was nominated for 22 Emmys this year. Enough said about her impact.

3. I'd rather see what RS, the Emmy committee, and the news say, as opposed to some nobody at Pulse.

4. This is a Leona Lewis thread.

[picklerclarkson]

I'm sorry but Leona is just not an interesting person. She is dull on stage as is her personality. I also have to disagree with Taylor Swift being boring. Although Leona has a great voice she would not have sold that much if she didn't have 5 star promo. Lady Ga Ga probably would have outsold Leona if she had that kind of promo....

[tsw2008]

If Leona got a 5 star promo then Lady GaGa got a 6 star promo. Leona's promo wasn't much different from what any major star receives. Worldwide GaGa easily got more promo yet she might not match Leona's sales and that's despite having multiple WW smash hits.

I think you are not giving Leona enough credit here. Promo can only take you so far.

This is seriously tiring the "Leona is boring" argument has been beaten to death over the past two years. Despite being so "boring" she is doing well for herself much better than some of the "exciting" artists idolized on message boards. Internet and the real world are often two different worlds.

There are plenty of people that like her for her personality and for being genuine. As long as she has big hits she will keep selling no matter what poeple on blogs and forums think of her and her "boring" personality.

Finally, what makes Taylor Swift so much more exciting than Leona on stage ?

[eon]

Being a singer is not enough for Neanderthal-ignoramus -- you need to be a stand up comedian too. It's no coincidence that some of the most absurd statements regarding Leona's personality come from posters with the least knowledge of her.

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Jul 20, 2009 21:49:22 GMT -5 picklerclarkson said:

I'm sorry but Leona is just not an interesting person. She is dull on stage as is her personality. I also have to disagree with Taylor Swift being boring. Although Leona has a great voice she would not have sold that much if she didn't have 5 star promo. Lady Ga Ga probably would have outsold Leona if she had that kind of promo....

lol @ Lady Gaga having less promo than Leona... are you serious? She's been EVERYWHERE, both in the US and internationally. The only thing she hasn't done is Oprah. She's even lined up for the X Factor in the UK when it comes back on later this year.

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As regards promo, Leona went #1 in just about every country in the world, places that never heard of her before, places she never visited.

She needed a push in the US because the US are only interested in Americans.

Bleeding Love was totally ignored by US radio despite being #1 round the world, they only started responding to it when it became obvious the label was going to shove it down their throats by introducing her in a big way.

Its very difficult for any foreign artists to make a impact in the US, I feel sorry for Gabriel Climi, Sam Sparrow etc, Aussie artists who had big hits with great songs but won't get a look in on US radio.

Leona is in a unique position of having Simon Cowell as a champion, his sole interest. If US radio don't respond then he will bypass them again, take her to Oprah, Idol etc again.

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Jul 21 2009 - Me in the studio…

Here’s what happens when you let musicians out of the studio!!!!!...



And me chilling…

Cute. :)

[Legend-ona Lewis]

Love the last pic~!