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Post by sterock85 on Aug 5, 2007 12:55:02 GMT -5
its one of those songs that are just too good to simply not be paid much attention to. really? lol this sounds like a typical avril pop ballad to me ... Out of all the mainstream female artists out today...Avrils ballads are the best. Innocence, Im With You, Slipped Away...pure quality. WYG is near the bottom of Avril ballads and even that is better than most ballads i hear in the charts today.
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Post by 4 Minutes to be a Legend on Aug 5, 2007 13:49:39 GMT -5
While this is a solid song...i can't help but feel that the lyrics are so childish! I'm sorry...Avril is not a good lyricist at all. She rhymes the most common and used words together. 'I'm With You' was way better written, delivered, and more meaningful than this. But then again...The Matrix had a HUGE helping hand with IWY, so that explains everything.
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Post by sterock85 on Aug 5, 2007 13:53:12 GMT -5
While this is a solid song...i can't help but feel that the lyrics are so childish! I'm sorry...Avril is not a good lyricist at all. She rhymes the most common and used words together. 'I'm With You' was way better written, delivered, and more meaningful than this. But then again...The Matrix had a HUGE helping hand with IWY, so that explains everything. Well atleast he writes her own lyrics i guess. This isn't her best lyrics at all....Nobody's Home are far better.
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Post by justfloating on Aug 5, 2007 14:35:50 GMT -5
Somebody help me but I agree with Auilegend. Im With You and Nobody's Home are her best, this is bubblegum pop that little kids want to sing along to and I think that will hinder its performance because we dont live in that world anymore radio wise.
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Post by Felicia on Aug 6, 2007 0:43:02 GMT -5
The song isn't in high rotation for most stations yet, hence the bullet isn't blowing up huge. The autumn/fall season is approaching and that's the perfect time to play this song, so I think this will have longevity.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Aug 6, 2007 6:57:23 GMT -5
She had 3-4 huge weeks and she is just taking a short break before hit the next level!
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Post by darkcloud on Aug 6, 2007 11:32:10 GMT -5
While this is a solid song...i can't help but feel that the lyrics are so childish! I'm sorry...Avril is not a good lyricist at all. She rhymes the most common and used words together. 'I'm With You' was way better written, delivered, and more meaningful than this. But then again...The Matrix had a HUGE helping hand with IWY, so that explains everything. Well atleast he writes her own lyrics i guess. This isn't her best lyrics at all....Nobody's Home are far better. Nobodys Home is GREAT yes... Slipped Away, IWY and some others like Anything But Ordinary are great too WYG is... normal... isnt bad... but isnt a masterpiece
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Post by Positive Tension on Aug 6, 2007 15:21:21 GMT -5
I agree that "Slipped Away," "Nobody's Home," "I'm With You," and "Innocence" are better songs than this, but "When You're Gone" is also a pretty good song, and I'd probably rate it as one of her better songs. It just doesn't seem as heartfelt or "Avrilish" (for lack of a better term) as the other songs.
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Post by G-Reg on Aug 6, 2007 15:30:17 GMT -5
I really liked this song when it first came out.
Now... I dunno. There seems to be something missing. There's nothing to it. The lyrics aren't great, the tune is kind of catchy, but nothing special... it seems like a song that I could have been hearing for years. I don't think this song is going to be huge... it's going to do OK on the charts, and then be forgotten.
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Post by Felicia on Aug 8, 2007 22:13:00 GMT -5
17 15 AVRIL LAVIGNE When You're Gone 3842 3490 352 19.185
Hopefully it picks up soon!
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Post by popmusicaddict on Aug 9, 2007 1:09:06 GMT -5
17 15 AVRIL LAVIGNE When You're Gone 3842 3490 352 19.185 Hopefully it picks up soon! RCA wont let this not go top 10 unless its getting horrendous callout (which I doubt), they currently have no one representing the top 10, very unlike RCA. I think #9 peak.
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Post by G-Reg on Aug 9, 2007 1:14:24 GMT -5
17 15 AVRIL LAVIGNE When You're Gone 3842 3490 352 19.185 Hopefully it picks up soon! RCA wont let this not go top 10 unless its getting horrendous callout (which I doubt), they currently have no one representing the top 10, very unlike RCA. I think #9 peak. that's what i was thinkin pma! ;) I'm soo over this song now though.
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Post by Nevermind on Aug 9, 2007 2:18:25 GMT -5
Time to bring out the payola
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Post by Felicia on Aug 9, 2007 11:10:22 GMT -5
Doing well worldwide!
No. 5 Australia! And it hit No. 3 in the UK almost a month ago!
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Post by Pulse on Aug 9, 2007 11:13:09 GMT -5
I really liked this song when it first came out. Now... I dunno. There seems to be something missing. There's nothing to it. The lyrics aren't great, the tune is kind of catchy, but nothing special... it seems like a song that I could have been hearing for years. I don't think this song is going to be huge... it's going to do OK on the charts, and then be forgotten. I agree. The song lacks substance musically. The verses are alright, but the chorus is so weak.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Aug 9, 2007 19:19:13 GMT -5
This needs to be #1 like now!
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Post by itsaboutart on Aug 9, 2007 19:22:59 GMT -5
I knew this wouldnt be big. It just isnt impressive in the slightest...im not hatin' I would support an avril song i liked but this is tooo cheesy. bring on hot!
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Post by Felicia on Aug 9, 2007 19:31:12 GMT -5
I'm a bit pissed there isn't enough promo for this. I'm guessing RCA is saving it for 'Hot'. 'When You're Gone' is not done yet though!
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Post by Mark on Aug 9, 2007 20:54:14 GMT -5
Ew. This song deserves to do so much better. It better go top 10.
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Post by missclarkson on Aug 9, 2007 20:55:29 GMT -5
it will go top 10 dont worry
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Post by Positive Tension on Aug 10, 2007 1:02:48 GMT -5
It sure is inching slowly on the Hot 100. I really hope this song has some more juice left in it.
On the other hand, it might be a better idea to go ahead with "Hot." "When You're Gone" hasn't helped Avril's album much in the US.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Aug 10, 2007 1:22:34 GMT -5
Yah...that's the word I just didn't wanna say it. Sadly I catch myself making fun of this song alot lately. This song really is cheesy - and I hate saying that cuz Avril really can pour in vocal emotion. I also didn't wanna say it cuz at least Avril kept real with this song, this song is relavent to her current situation (if it really is about Derek) so its REAL. Its still a pretty song. Oh well, she said she liked all her upbeat stuff on this album anyway so not like I should care anyway When your buff...
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Post by Juanca on Aug 10, 2007 4:16:18 GMT -5
Sure, its' not her best... as I wrote the first time I heard it, I'm sad this was chosen to be part as one of the main singles of TBDT instead of KHO, a song that could have been the signature ballad of this album. Their fault then!! >:( I mean, could you imagine KHO released after Gf? It could have been huge! Now, this is alright, nice, pretty, good piano and vocals, but as a song lacking power I think (and hope) it will go Top10 in a couple of weeks. However, it would be kind of sad if I see BLG climbing above her or even T-Pain, which are closing in. Btw, what's going on with T-Pain in Pop radio??? His BUAD negative bullet is shrining, while Bartender is steaming up! Wtf?
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Post by mugshot on Aug 10, 2007 4:21:56 GMT -5
Sure, its' not her best... as I wrote the first time I heard it, I'm sad this was chosen to be part as one of the main singles of TBDT instead of KHO, a song that could have been the signature ballad of this album. Their fault then!! >:( I mean, could you imagine KHO released after Gf? It could have been huge! Now, this is alright, nice, pretty, good piano and vocals, but as a song lacking power I think (and hope) it will go Top10 in a couple of weeks. However, it would be kind of sad if I see BLG climbing above her or even T-Pain, which are closing in. Btw, what's going on with T-Pain in Pop radio??? His BUAD negative bullet is shrining, while Bartender is steaming up! Wtf? The b-side 'I Will Be' written by Max Martin, Luke and Avril would have been the signature ballad of the album if it was included. 'Alone'(another b-side) is another Max Martin hit that will never be. What's wrong with Avril and her people? How do you NOT put at least a couple Max Martin songs on your album? That's like working with Timbaland but not using his material when his career is on fire.
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Post by CammyCan on Aug 10, 2007 4:25:20 GMT -5
^ Totally agree. "I Will Be" and "Alone" are two of my favorites from her this era, and they arent even on the album. I can't believe they left them off, seeing as they're pretty obvious hits, and "I Will Be" blows "When You're Gone" and "Innocence" out of the water.
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Post by mugshot on Aug 10, 2007 4:30:14 GMT -5
^ Totally agree. "I Will Be" and "Alone" are two of my favorites from her this era, and they arent even on the album. I can't believe they left them off, seeing as they're pretty obvious hits, and "I Will Be" blows "When You're Gone" and "Innocence" out of the water. I think 'I will Be' was going to be on the album but they replaced it with KHO, because it had moderate success on radio. At least that's what I think. And Avril said 'Alone' wasn't included because it didn't 'fit' with the rest of the album. Fuck that! Put the hit on the album. That's way more important then the cohesiveness of the album.
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Post by CammyCan on Aug 10, 2007 4:37:17 GMT -5
^ Seriously! And I don't really understand how it doesn't "fit" with the rest of the album, seems like it fits perfectly fine to me. I say take out "One of Those Girls", and put this in its place. And as long as we're replacing songs, switch KHO with "I Will Be". There, perfect.
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Post by mugshot on Aug 10, 2007 4:40:41 GMT -5
^^So true.
A possible re-release still gives me a speck of hope that they might see the light of day...but not much hope.
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Post by Tha Kid Wit Tha Flow on Aug 10, 2007 11:58:51 GMT -5
Yea. #38 is not something to be happy about after you had a #1 hit!!
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Post by missclarkson on Aug 10, 2007 12:00:49 GMT -5
avril is smart IMO. the max/drluke sound is getting really old now.
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