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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Feb 24, 2009 3:03:00 GMT -5
Still havent heard "Wars" www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOvtQUhQVREThere, now you can hear it.... For the record your post should be nominated as the most useless post of the year. And yeah, i'm being facetious because really it was the most unnecessary post I've ever seen on any blog site, at any time, at any point in interweb history.... The song is decent but I'm not 100% feeling it yet, have to take some time to hear the rest of the album to get a better overall feeling.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 24, 2009 6:43:41 GMT -5
^Haha Ouch, really? I think I must have seen worse at some point.
Just to make sure I don't get nominated myself, I'll say something substantial...Vol II is one of the best albums of 2007. Cool.
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Post by PHOBES on Feb 24, 2009 11:35:42 GMT -5
It wasn't that bad of a statement, I'd much rather read that then chart numbers that don't really change at all from week-to-week (or *gasp* day-to-day).
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Post by pen on Feb 24, 2009 11:47:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I really am getting tired of seeing chart numbers. I have both charts just bookmarked in my favorites. That's all anybody really needs to do.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 24, 2009 16:08:03 GMT -5
I've said this before in defense of posting chart numbers (not that I do it very often) but I actually do think it's useful. Granted, at the time...we can all look up how it's doing that day. But it's nice to be able to go back in these threads and see how a song was doing at a given point. One example I can think of is Finger Eleven's "Paralyzer." It's fun going back and looking at predictions ppl were making about how it would do based on how it was doing at that point in time. I like the fact that I can go back in these threads and see if a song made the top 50 but didn't make the top 40 on billboard, and how close it got to making the top 40. If anyone knows of a way of getting easy access to archive charts, then fine, stop posting chart numbers, but I think they're useful when we look back at how a song did over time. AllMusicGuide's billboard peak positions don't really give the full picture as far as how long a song lasted on the chart, how slow its climb was, etc. Anyway, that's my position in favor of continued chart posting.
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Post by pen on Feb 24, 2009 16:16:52 GMT -5
I don't know, I Wikipedia most chart peaks myself.
Predictions are one thing. I don't even mind it that much if people wouldn't post numbers for every other song that comes down the pike every other day. I wouldn't say it's annoying, more disappointing, when you're looking for conversation and all you get are numbers.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 24, 2009 16:19:14 GMT -5
But aren't most wikipedia peaks Billboard?
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Post by pen on Feb 24, 2009 16:41:00 GMT -5
I don't know. Is that important?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 24, 2009 16:50:12 GMT -5
Well not tremendously, but as I said in an earlier post, it's no helping in figuring out how well a song that missed the billboard chart did. Like, to this day, I'll never know how close Karnivool's "Themata," 12 Stones's "Broken," Psychostick's "Beer!" Sevendust's "Crucified," Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes" among others came to charting on Billboard Mainstream Rock. All I know is that they didn't, but I bet that all of them were likely at some point in the top 50 of mediabase active rock. However I can't know for sure because back then people didn't post chart numbers in the archive threads, or the songs came out before this board existed.
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Post by pen on Feb 24, 2009 17:01:25 GMT -5
I guess it's just enough for me to know that they didn't chart or do well. I realize that the problem I'm having is because I'm here to discuss music and that ignores the fact that this is, indeed, a forum about radio. Which does imply the importance of the charts. And since I don't listen to radio or care that much about radio, then I am, in fact, the odd man out.
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Post by PHOBES on Feb 24, 2009 17:34:48 GMT -5
Who listens to radio? I don't even have an active or alternative rock station in my area.
Let's see, of the songs on the first page, I've heard three of them on the radio. I heard Staind's "All I Want" once on a Virginia Rock station while I was driving (I live in NC), and I've heard Shinedown's "Second Chance" a few times on my local classic rock station that typically plays nothing new unless Adam Gontier is involved. And I've heard AAR's "Gives You Hell" a few times, but that was on a pop station.
I've heard "Street Fighter (War)" and "No You Girls" on commercials though, if that counts for anything.
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Post by Pipa on Feb 24, 2009 18:01:57 GMT -5
On the front page, I've heard "Get On Your Boots", "Gives You Hell" (on pop), "Second Chance", "Lifeline", and "Use Somebody" on the radio.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 16, 2009 1:29:07 GMT -5
23 25 HURT Wars 534 541 -7 1.214
...Stalling in the mid 20s. If this song doesn't break the top 20's that will be very disappointing, and I will hope that a bigger label picks them up before their next record is released. With the proper push, they've had enough exposure where this should at least peak in the mid teens where "Rapture" and "Falls Apart" peaked.
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Post by pen on Mar 16, 2009 1:31:50 GMT -5
I try not to hope for things like that anymore, because I'm not sure if I'd want to wish that on a band or not.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 16, 2009 2:46:07 GMT -5
Oh wow, I just realized that this isn't on Alternative, despite how much my station plays it.
Nor is Disturbed's "The Night," but I've been cognizant of that all along. (My station's barely touched it yet and not at all lately, while continuing to play "Indestructible" a lot.)
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Post by pen on Mar 17, 2009 12:58:31 GMT -5
I've decided I really want either "Fighting Tao" or "Pills" to be the next single. The latter would be great I think for an alternative audience and the former is perfect for active rock, and both of them are just insanely catchy as hell and memorable. I would rather "World Ain't Right" be held off for a third single because even though Shaun's guest spot might raise some spins, it's really an album track, I think. The other two songs are way better for radio.
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Post by PHOBES on Mar 17, 2009 14:20:00 GMT -5
As far as "World Ain't Right" is concerned: it's good, but I prefer the live acoustic version I heard without Shaun.
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Post by Cody on Mar 28, 2009 17:35:44 GMT -5
this song's actually pretty good
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 28, 2009 20:37:34 GMT -5
Why are you surprised? Did you not like "Ten Ton Brick?" wow :o I thought Ten Ton Brick was alright, but extremely overrated Oh. I think this song is the most representative of their sound of all their singles.
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Post by pen on Mar 28, 2009 21:00:28 GMT -5
But not representative of their overall sound.
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Post by fran182 on Apr 13, 2009 15:55:59 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 20 on Mediabase Active:
22 19 HURT Wars 723 631 92 1.939
60 stations playing.
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Post by pen on Apr 13, 2009 15:58:53 GMT -5
I'm so proud of Hurt. Even without a major label, they're still keeping the rock alive. I hope this single continues to climb and I hope their next single breaks them out.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Apr 13, 2009 18:25:01 GMT -5
This is song is a little to plain and ordinary for me. But if they put anything out like Ten Ton Brick and Loded soon, I'll probably end up getting the new album.
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Post by pen on Apr 13, 2009 19:55:49 GMT -5
That's funny cause Ten Ton Brick and Loded are arguably even more plain and ordinary than Wars. All of Hurt's best songs are always the non-singles.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Apr 13, 2009 20:06:07 GMT -5
That is mostly true. But Ten Ton Brick sounded better when it was out to me. Wars doesn't so much.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 13, 2009 20:31:07 GMT -5
Wars at least in corporates J. Loren doing some cool violin harmonics, trills, and double-stops in the verses. None of their other singles have incorporated that element of their sound that's always been fairly prevalent on their album tracks.
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Post by fran182 on Apr 27, 2009 10:51:23 GMT -5
Yesterday, it reached top 50 on Mediabase Alternative. Here's today's update:
52 49 HURT Wars 140 154 -14 0.286
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 28, 2009 1:36:46 GMT -5
It should still be at #51, since they prematurely moved "Scream" and "You Found Me" to recurrent status. Just saying...
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 28, 2009 12:56:49 GMT -5
^Wait, were either of those ever top 20?
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Post by Matt4319 on Apr 29, 2009 1:08:53 GMT -5
Yesterday, it reached top 50 on Mediabase Alternative. Here's today's update: 52 49 HURT Wars 140 154 -14 0.286 Heh, just a few days after it entered my personal top 40. (If it were the other way around, I'd probably look like a douche, although I never really gave it a shot until I heard it once on my Alternative station.)
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