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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 29, 2009 3:21:50 GMT -5
^Wait, were either of those ever top 20? No. Why? |
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 29, 2009 21:42:45 GMT -5
^Wait, were either of those ever top 20? No. Why? So, are they even technically "recurrents" then? Being that they never hit the top 20? |
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 30, 2009 4:16:57 GMT -5
So, are they even technically "recurrents" then? Being that they never hit the top 20? "Dead Memories" just went recurrent. |
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 10, 2009 11:34:53 GMT -5
20 21 HURT Wars 710 762 -52 1.84
This song's days appear to be numbered. Hopefully it can somehow turn it around. I know they don't have a label backing them, but this is kinda disappointing considering how well "Ten Ton Brick" did for them. Hopefully the follow-up can be more successful than "Loded" was. And hopefully "World Ain't Right" can be released with Shaun Morgan on the track, cuz that song is just flat out awesome, and I don't even like Seether all that much.
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Post by pen on May 10, 2009 12:01:50 GMT -5
20 21 HURT Wars 710 762 -52 1.84 This song's days appear to be numbered. Hopefully it can somehow turn it around. I know they don't have a label backing them, but this is kinda disappointing considering how well "Ten Ton Brick" did for them. Hopefully the follow-up can be more successful than "Loded" was. And hopefully "World Ain't Right" can be released with Shaun Morgan on the track, cuz that song is just flat out awesome, and I don't even like Seether all that much. I think for a band with only minor hits and no label backing them anymore, to reach #20 with a song that arguably is not a typically straightforward rock song is pretty damn good. As for a follow-up, personally I think "World Ain't Right" isn't really a good single choice even with the presence of Shaun Morgan. I would much rather have "Fighting Tao", or if they really want to do something different, "Pills". |
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 10, 2009 12:27:07 GMT -5
I think "Dreams Away" is the most obvious follow-up, but it's a little too standard post-grunge for me to really root for it. "Fighting Tao" is an awesome track, but I'm worried it may not showcase any side of them different from what "Wars" has already established on this album (though the fiddle solo is a bit more extreme than anything "Wars" does). I don't really get your love for "Pills" or why you see it as something different (feels almost Hot AC other than the lyrics), but to each his own. I feel like if they really wanted to throw something out of left field, "Pandora" is an awesome song, and would definitely throw their active rock base for a loop, with a more Radiohead/Muse-like track. Probably my favorite song on the album.
"World Ain't Right" I feel like is a third single, but if their second single doesn't get enough attention to warrant a third single, they might be best to do everything they can with the name recognition and get Seether's fanbase interested now.
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Post by pen on May 10, 2009 12:42:00 GMT -5
I think "Dreams Away" is the most obvious follow-up, but it's a little too standard post-grunge for me to really root for it. "Fighting Tao" is an awesome track, but I'm worried it may not showcase any side of them different from what "Wars" has already established on this album (though the fiddle solo is a bit more extreme than anything "Wars" does). I don't really get your love for "Pills" or why you see it as something different (feels almost Hot AC other than the lyrics), but to each his own. I feel like if they really wanted to throw something out of left field, "Pandora" is an awesome song, and would definitely throw their active rock base for a loop, with a more Radiohead/Muse-like track. Probably my favorite song on the album. "World Ain't Right" I feel like is a third single, but if their second single doesn't get enough attention to warrant a third single, they might be best to do everything they can with the name recognition and get Seether's fanbase interested now. "Pills" is different for the band. Cause all five of their prior singles have pretty much just showcased their harder side, and "Pills" would show they could do something lighter and more alternative. I don't agree that "Pandora" sounds anything like Radiohead or Muse, and in fact I think it just sounds like another heavy rock track from them. It's a great song, but it would still be in line with their prior radio releases. |
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Post by Crushcrushchris on May 10, 2009 13:07:02 GMT -5
I think "Well" would make a good single choice.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 10, 2009 13:19:19 GMT -5
"Role Martyr X" is the most similar to "Ten Ton Brick" if they're trying to recreate that success. Honestly, nearly any song off this album could be the next single, but none strikes me as an obvious choice or a likely breakout hit for them. The closing track is the only one that has zero chance of being a single.
The reason I said that "Pandora" has a Radiohead sound to it is the use of spacy delay/reverb effects, and highly chromatic lines, which I think makes it the most "Alternative" or "Progressive" track on the record in a similar way to Radiohead. Maybe Porcupine Tree is a better comparison. No surprise that it'd be my favorite. ;)
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Post by pen on May 10, 2009 13:26:25 GMT -5
I guess. That's not really how I think of Radiohead, I have to admit. I mean, you're not wrong, I just really don't think about music in those terms.
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Post by lockebox on May 13, 2009 19:23:13 GMT -5
Hurt is such an underrated band. A major record label needs to snap them up pronto. This is a great song from one of the most interesting alt. metal bands out there. Releasing "Pills" as the next single would show that they're far from one trick ponies.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 15, 2009 2:09:20 GMT -5
So this technically spent a week in the Alternative Top 50, even though it wouldn't have if a couple songs hadn't been "purged" that week, which is the stupidest Mediabase chart phenomenon.
Nevertheless, considering "Ten Ton Brick" didn't ever breach the Top 30, it still went recurrent, or very close, if not. I really don't understand why "Wars" didn't really impact the Alternative chart. Also Bullet for My Valentine's "Hearts Burst Into Fire" last year. That should've been their biggest hit yet, but somehow never was.
My Alternative station played both of those songs a lot, though, so I at least have that much.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 15, 2009 2:28:09 GMT -5
This song's bullet at active rock is no longer negative, so it's not done yet.
Are you saying you sorta like this song, Nick? Are you coming around a bit on Hurt? A wee bit?
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 15, 2009 3:20:14 GMT -5
Are you saying you sorta like this song, Nick? Are you coming around a bit on Hurt? A wee bit? Really nothing's changed since this song came out. I haven't been exposed to any more of their music, either. I admit the second half of my last sentence in the previous post overstated my enthusiasm for "Wars," particularly, but it definitely deserved to be their biggest Alternative hit at this stage in their career. That being said, I can't remember the last time I felt like actually listening to this song when it's come on the radio and didn't change the station on it. |
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