Thalia - "Sera Porque Te Amo"

[kinglouiexviii]

This was the second single from Lunada, released exclusively on Mexican radio stations--where I believe it did well, even better than "ten paciencia". Although, that is not saying much.

While I don't think this should have been the second single, I do like the song. It was originally an Italian 80's song which has been covered in Spanish by several artists. I like Thalia's version because, oddly enough, it doesn't sound dated. I really dig the violins in the intro.

Nevertheless, my pick for second single was always the new-wave influenced, "solo se vive una vez". Alas, no use crying over spilled milk.

[tortuga]

Hmm. Who else has covered this? It sounds very familiar.

[kinglouiexviii]

Jan 5, 2009 1:01:55 GMT -5 @tortuga said:

Hmm. Who else has covered this? It sounds very familiar.

You know, I'm not exactly sure. I want to say the 80's girl group, Flans, covered it, but I'm not 100% sure. I read on a different message board that several Mexican artists have covered it. It was a hit back in the 80's and apparantely, one of Thalia's favorite summer songs; she just had to have it for Lunada.

[Juanca]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whew!
Ok, now I'm relaxed.
This is a CLASSIC of the 80s, why Thalia, whyyyy?!!!
She already did a subpar cover of A Quien Le Importa, an 80s classic by Alaska, and now this?
It is not BAD, but it is not better than the original by any means. The production may seem more modern, but the original could still be remixed and be better than Thalia's version (same with AQLI, GREAT production of the original, Thalia's version didn't add anything but made a subpar version).
Here is the link to the original version

Richi e Poveri-Sarà perché ti amo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wA_0lSxkG8

And the Spanish version, which was known as

Ricos y Pobres - Sera Porque Te Amo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGAmCO3-jUk

I know it was covered in the 80s by
Los Chamos
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrD4kAhpREg
Los Chicos (with Chayanne in his school years)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=emMbkIO817o

In recent years, I heard a Cumbia version by El Combo Loco
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IORx3vm0QCM

But nothing else

[spongebob]

this song has single or somethin?

[tortuga]

Jan 9, 2009 7:46:34 GMT -5 spongebob said:

this song has single or somethin?

??? Um, yes this is a single.

[kinglouiexviii]

Jan 8, 2009 23:37:32 GMT -5 Juanca said:

She already did a subpar cover of A Quien Le Importa, an 80s classic by Alaska, and now this?

You're kidding right? Thalia's version of AQLI was subpar?

You can dislike Thalia and her music, but you cannot honestly tell me that the original AQLI by Alaska y Dinarama is a good song that stands the test of time. I love 80's music; bands like The Cure, New Order, Duncan Dhu, and The Smiths are some of my favorites, but their songs hold up well even today. Alaska's version is cheesy and too static; it doesn't help that the girl sounds like a man. Sorry, but it's true.

On the other hand, Thalia's version is modern, fun, sexy, upbeat, and very danceable; I love the euro-pop aesthetic to it. Thalia's voice shines on interesting tracks like this.

Just compare the two versions when they're side by side:

[Juanca]

???
Did my comments give the impression that I dislike Thalia's music? :o
NO! I like her, maybe I have expected much more of her and I am a bit disappointed of some of her music, but that doesn't mean I don't like her music.

Leaving that aside, I know I'm not the only one who says that about AQLI.
That song is still a classic in many places in Latin America, and it is still played in discos in its original version. Let alone in Spain.
I think it is even more organic production-wise than Thalia's. The break after the first chorus in Thalia's version with the string sounds forced; then, Alaska's whispery pre-chorus flows gently, "Miiiiiii destino es el que yoooooooo", whereas Thalia says "Mi-i-i-i-i destino es el que yo-o-o-o" which again sounds forced.
In any case, that's my opinion of course

[kinglouiexviii]

Jan 16, 2009 3:01:10 GMT -5 Juanca said:

Alaska's whispery pre-chorus flows gently, "Miiiiiii destino es el que yoooooooo", whereas Thalia says "Mi-i-i-i-i destino es el que yo-o-o-o" which again sounds forced.

I love that about Thalia's version--is too sexy, too sexy! hahahaha. To be fair, Thalia's version is live.

I just can't understand why people worship Alaska's version. She sounds like a dude!

[Juanca]

OK, that live version is better than the studio version. At least the intro and first verse gives a twist to the song... however, I'm comparing both studio versions. And I think that the production and even more subtle performance of Alaska works better for the song. Of course, the atittude and what meant FOR Alaska gave more meaning to the song, since her image and sexuality was anti-mainstream at that time. Not the case for Thalia either.

This is Thalia's studio version:


And I seriously think that Thalia's version is at least as cheesy as Alaska's"
- her "yo-uo-uo-uooo" was and the "Asi seguire- eh- eh- eh-eh" after the musical interlude was again very light pop.
- her tone of childish girl in some parts of the song didn't suit the aggressive meaning lyrics of the song
- Thalia's background voice screams didn't make it for me either
- Alaska's production had more ROCK elements, with guitar riffs and all, Thalia's had more percusion elements, especially in the chorus. Both had their cheesy and non-cheesy elements.

All in all, I think Thalia toned down the energy and atittude of a song that was VERY atittudinal and anthemic for "different" young people (call them rebels, uglies, gays, nerds, etc.)

[clarksodi]

Jan 19, 2009 19:52:28 GMT -5 Juanca said:

OK, that live version is better than the studio version. At least the intro and first verse gives a twist to the song... however, I'm comparing both studio versions. And I think that the production and even more subtle performance of Alaska works better for the song. Of course, the atittude and what meant FOR Alaska gave more meaning to the song, since her image and sexuality was anti-mainstream at that time. Not the case for Thalia either.

This is Thalia's studio version:


And I seriously think that Thalia's version is at least as cheesy as Alaska's"
- her "yo-uo-uo-uooo" was and the "Asi seguire- eh- eh- eh-eh" after the musical interlude was again very light pop.
- her tone of childish girl in some parts of the song didn't suit the aggressive meaning lyrics of the song
- Thalia's background voice screams didn't make it for me either
- Alaska's production had more ROCK elements, with guitar riffs and all, Thalia's had more percusion elements, especially in the chorus. Both had their cheesy and non-cheesy elements.

All in all, I think Thalia toned down the energy and atittude of a song that was VERY atittudinal and anthemic for "different" young people (call them rebels, uglies, gays, nerds, etc.)

The live version is great until she gets to the chorus and starts dancing and forgetting to hit the notes. The last "high" notes of the song are absolutely horrendous, as her voice actually cracks several times.

I'm a huge, huge fan of Thalia and I own every record, but at the end of the day, I have to admit she is a studio singer. She hasn't produced a good, live vocal performance since her early days. It's such a shame because she's absolutely gorgeous.

[markreede]

After a long hiatus kinglouie, I'm back and kicking!!!

Well, up to now, Thalia's nowhere to be found. In Saki's arms, maybe, you could find her strolling in the parks ( as latest pictures in the Latin gossip mags would say) , instead singing on the stage promoting Sera Porque Te Amo.

By the way, who watched "Los Mas Esperados en 2009" in Ritmoson Latino yesterday (Manila time)?? Forumers in the official site told that they saw a teaser and Thalia's "Sera Porque Te Amo" was sung on the background. Maybe a sign of life? Not sure.

For JuanK, Kudai also sang Sera Porque Te Amo.

[cesarc1989]

Definitivamente Lunada fue un fracaso, no por el material en sí, sino por la falta de interés en el proyecto que demostraron Thalía y EMI, si hubiese sido empujado y promocionado hubiese sido un buen Comeback para Thalía. Lástima.

[kinglouiexviii]

Feb 7, 2009 14:24:43 GMT -5 cesarc1989 said:

Definitivamente Lunada fue un fracaso, no por el material en sí, sino por la falta de interés en el proyecto que demostraron Thalía y EMI, si hubiese sido empujado y promocionado hubiese sido un buen Comeback para Thalía. Lástima.

Opino lo mismo. Hay canciones muy interesantes en este disco: una balada super fuerte (desolvidandote), pop chicloso (con este amor), y hasta un poco the new-wave (solo se vive una vez). En fin, ya ni llorar es bueno.

Parece que Thalia ya no esta preocupada por estar arriba de un escenario; su preoridad es su familia. Se le respeta, pero no cabe duda de que me molesta. De cualquier forma, mucha suerte para ella.

Oh, and welcome back Mark! Nice to see you here again. So, you live in Manila?

[tortuga]

LOL @ "pop chicloso".

[markreede]

Yes. I am living in Manila. Well, I have a BREAKING NEWS here but I can't find myself if it is true because I have no time to download for such a long track in Conexion Thalia Radio Show but Thalia herself slipped her tongue in saying on the 24th January episode of her radio show that 'SHE IS RELEASING AN ALBUM". Would somebody listen to this track if it is true??

thaliaradio.com/es/?cat=4

[clarksodi]

Feb 12, 2009 7:53:07 GMT -5 @markreede said:

Yes. I am living in Manila. Well, I have a BREAKING NEWS here but I can't find myself if it is true because I have no time to download for such a long track in Conexion Thalia Radio Show but Thalia herself slipped her tongue in saying on the 24th January episode of her radio show that 'SHE IS RELEASING AN ALBUM". Would somebody listen to this track if it is true??

thaliaradio.com/es/?cat=4

The Show was around an hour long, but I didn't catch anything about a new release on the January 24th episode.

[kinglouiexviii]

I would love for her to release a new album, but I'm beginning to think she's retired from the music biz.

[markreede]

I don't really think that she's retiring from the biz. I'm realizing now that she's more focused on her daughter nowadays than to her career and business empire. Still, the English album due this July is circulating, that gives me a (false) hope. But hey, have you heard that Thalia's pregnant again? hehe just a rumor

[Carlitoz]

Although I miss some Thalia action in Latin radio, I think she should focus on her baby until she's really really ready to focus seriously on new music. I know you loved her new album, louie (long time now see, king!!!), but it did nothing for me unfortunately :( Apparently I was not the only one....

Hopefully she comes back with something great next time and with great promotion.

[markreede]

I wonder why she could easily defend herself against her second pregnancy rumors (which circulated last week, thanks to Ana Luisa Peluffo, her co-star in the 1994 hit Marimar, that told the public she ASSUMED that Thalia's EXPECTING AGAIN when she conversed with her) but keeps mum about her much-talked about EMI "kick out"? I'm thinking that is it a serious matter with underlying legal issues that's why her mouth is zipped about it, the rumor is not true (but why she's sensitive in answering the pregnancy rumors easily that's why she reacts so fast) or it's her choice not to meddle with the issue anymore.. (But her official forums is still under the EMI LATIN domain, and yes, nobody in EMI could confirm/deny the rumor.. )

Yes, I have HIGH HOPES that she's cooking a surprise for us, I almost believe in ANOTHER rumor circulating that she is working now in the studios for another album by a certain Luis Magana (again)

Ergo, Thalia has people around her that could mill her rumors. Thanks to them, these helped her keep her name in circulation and flame some interest to the prying eyes of the public..

[kinglouiexviii]

Mar 2, 2009 23:12:52 GMT -5 Carlitoz said:

I know you loved her new album, louie (long time now see, king!!!), but it did nothing for me unfortunately :( Apparently I was not the only one....

Carlitoz! Glad to see you here again. Yes, I did love LUNADA, but I can understand why so many hated it. It's a different, less mainstream effort for Thalia; it's a concept album and not necessarily a string of singles like most of her previous records. I loved El Sexto Sentido, for example, but it was one potential single after another; it lacked thematic unity--a larger concept. In Lunada, every song adds an element to it's major themes of carpe diem. I know I'm one of the few, but I thought it was very well made.

;)

[kinglouiexviii]

Mar 3, 2009 10:52:47 GMT -5 @markreede said:

I wonder why she keeps mum about her much-talked about EMI "kick out"? I'm thinking that is it a serious matter with underlying legal issues that's why her mouth is zipped about it,

I never understood that whole affair either, Mark. On the one hand, every gossip show claimed that she had been fired by EMI; on the other, neither EMI nor Thalia ever released any formal statement about it, which is very strange. You think one of the parties would do just as a formality. I'm thinking they're still involved in negotiations of some kind. After all, Thalia spent almost 15 years with them. That is not the type of relationship that dissolves from one day to the next. I'm one of the few who has said that Thalia doesn't want to work with Mottola in terms of her music career. Otherwise she would have switched to his record company from the beginning. I'm guessing she wants to stay with EMI--they always treated her as a top priority--but is holding out for more money, but EMI may be hesitant as they state of the business isn't great right now. Additionally, Thalia has shown she's not as interested in promoting her albums lately.

[markreede]

I beg to disagree that:

Additionally, Thalia has shown she's not as interested in promoting her albums lately.

Not Thalia, but EMI is not interested in promoting her albums, since Thalia failed horrendously to build a stronghold in the Anglo market compared to the Latin market. All the fans around the world contacted EMI why they didn't release Lunada in their respective countries and we concluded one thing, EMI is solely focused on their talents who shoot up their revenues. (Sad to say, RBD disbanded, who's gonna be the next EMI's pet?? Flex? Flex will have a long way to trod.. jeje )

Besides, her long time friend Emilio wouldn't care to produce her an album, exerting it with blood, dime and sweat, if Thalia won't care to promote it. At least, you've heard Lunada at the Premios Juventud, Cristina Saralegui and right on her own radio show.. Blame it to the Lyme that up to now she is still having (*at one event, rashes was the thing Lyme had given her legs in the royal event..*)

In my perspective, I could say that Thalia really wanted to end the contract of EMI thru releasing Lunada, because she felt now the biased treatment EMI is giving her..

But I agree with you that:

I'm one of the few who has said that Thalia doesn't want to work with Mottola in terms of her music career. Otherwise she would have switched to his record company from the beginning.

I assume you remember Mariah Carey when she wed the Mottola and the Mottola handled her career. What happened? She "became the prisoner of her own jail" --Shakira and every album she did is a BIG flop. When Mariah divorced the Mottola, her singing career zoomed way up. (I'm not saying Thalys should divorce the Mottola. But I thought of that before. jeje ) But I guess Thalia watched Mariah's career and feared that she might repeat what Mariah did. But I'm also confident to say that Thalia is proving that she had a name, money and fame before she married the Mottola and that's the reason why up to now Thalia won't let The Mottola handled her career (*But if I remembered it right, it was The Mottola who contacted Aventura to make No,no,no and it was The Mottola again who sparked Thalia an idea to "make-an-album-again-ala-Amor-A-La-Mexicana thing", thus, Lunada was born..*)

One thing left me an impression, Thalia isn't comfy in the place she is having at EMI.. Fans revolted why EMI treat Thalia indifferently as compared to the treatment they gave to her circa 90's, and alas, the rumor of leaving EMI still sounding loud up to now..

[markreede]

In Ecuador (only), they're currently playing "Isla Para Dos".

Now, louie, it's a proof that EMI is conscientiously exerting nothing on this album. It's the FANS who contacting radio stations and emailing them eternally just to have some Lunada songs on air..

I'm thanking this forum and the people who are reading this because it let me express my sentiments regarding Thalia's greatest failure on her music career. Nah, you'll say that failure is a part of one's success, but failing, and failing for the worst, for the third consecutive time is not good to see anymore and as a fan I'm still hoping that she might reach the peak of success again. Thalia.emilaforums.com won't let me post such comments that the administrator thinks degrading for Thalys' and her fans' part that's why I let myself spill it here.

[kinglouiexviii]

Mar 5, 2009 1:44:25 GMT -5 @markreede said:

I'm thanking this forum and the people who are reading this because it let me express my sentiments regarding Thalia's greatest failure on her music career.

Well, I'm just glad I found another fan, that is passionate and knowledgable, to chat with. I understand your frustration; I feel it too. But I wouldn't say that Thalia has continually been failing. I think Lunada represents her first, big commercial mishap. She has always sold well up until last year.

And everybody--from Madonna to U2--has bombed in a big way at some point in their career. Does anyone remember American Life or Pop, respectively? Talk about awful failures. So if Madonna and U2 can get through it, I don't see why Thalia has to be the exception. I agree with Carlitoz; the precondition is that Thalia has to want it--truly want it.

[markreede]

Mar 9, 2009 14:38:23 GMT -5 kinglouiexviii said:

Mar 5, 2009 1:44:25 GMT -5 @markreede said:

I'm thanking this forum and the people who are reading this because it let me express my sentiments regarding Thalia's greatest failure on her music career.

Well, I'm just glad I found another fan, that is passionate and knowledgable, to chat with. I understand your frustration; I feel it too. But I wouldn't say that Thalia has continually been failing. I think Lunada represents her first, big commercial mishap. She has always sold well up until last year.

And everybody--from Madonna to U2--has bombed in a big way at some point in their career. Does anyone remember American Life or Pop, respectively? Talk about awful failures. So if Madonna and U2 can get through it, I don't see why Thalia has to be the exception. I agree with Carlitoz; the precondition is that Thalia has to want it--truly want it.

I'm just reading one article about Mariah's success in "Emancipation of Mimi" and Tommy Mottola's failure to launch Thalia as her next Mariah Carey. I was deeply saddened that they called her as a "soap opera star that only deepened her Latino fanbase and WAS KNOWN ONLY HERE (USA) BECAUSE OF K-MART".

Anyway,if she's dormant collaborating with other music artist, she's active in collaborating with writers for her follow-up to her smash book hit Thalia:Belleza, Lessons in Life and Lipgloss(yes, it reached top 3 bestseller Latin non-fiction book when her first book was released in the US, a good success for her as a "writer") that's entitled THALIA:RADIANTE! AN ULTIMATE GUIDE TO PREGNANCY and was slated to release TODAY (for online orders I guess, Thalis will inform of a book launch for this but her people haven't posted yet on the official website when it will happen)

[Juanca]

Is that a joke? ???
Are you happy because she is having more success in some cheap book that is probably selling to all those housewives that were watching Maria la del Barrio, Marimar and whatever other Maria she appeared on and which helped them get more popular YES, but which also DESTROYED any type of credibility she had built before her soap operas eras?
She made quite a comeback to serious music with Arrasando, but I cannot help but thinking she lost TOO much time with her recycling the same type of character following the steps of Veronica Castro... Once or twice was good enough, but not those many years!! I considered her as a joke in that era to be honest, which was quite sad for me because I thought she was gonna be THE Latin star with more international success after Gloria Estefan.

[markreede]

Yes, I AM SERIOUSLY HAPPY because DESPITE OF HER FAILED COMEBACK BID, COURTESY OF LUNADA, she is successful "venturing" into new fields that nobody in the music world haven't dared to try. And WATCH YOUR WORDS DEAR. The book IS NOT CHEAP. It appears I'm biased and defensive because I'm one of her still-waiting-for-enormous-success-for-her-idol fan, but if you are a medical professional, you will appreciate it because her latest book would really help for pregnant peeps how to cope with that stage of their lives, taken from an expert and from the one who experienced it. BE VIGILANT ON WHAT YOU SAY. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, NEITHER HEARD EVERY BIT OF IT. SAY SOMETHING IF YOU REALLY WITNESSED IT.

[Juanca]

Well, I haven't read it nor will because I'm not gonna be pregnant ;) and I'm not a doctor either
HOWEVER, I can judge at least from what it appears to be.
And those titles, sorry but are a joke!
Thalia:Belleza, Lessons in Life and Lipgloss
THALIA:RADIANTE! AN ULTIMATE GUIDE TO PREGNANCY

They sound cheap!
AND, I could care less if a music artist start to write about flowers, desserts or hairstyles! Those seem more like tricks to keep gaining the money that someone cannot gain with music anymore. All a matter of business.
If I would be interested in buying a book regarding pregnancy for my partner, I would look for someone with a medical background and with a more 'serious' title. That book title seem to reflect that it's all about "Thalis". BLAH!
But, well, to each his own. If you like that kind of success, it's okay!
I'd rather have her doing some interesting music than writing about celulitis or how she can wear her pre-pregnancy dresses again.

And no need to warn or use capital letters either. Again: CHILL!!!! This is not a matter of life or death. We can all agree to disagree.