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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 13, 2009 3:01:45 GMT -5
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Post by halo19 on Jan 13, 2009 13:31:54 GMT -5
I certainly wouldn't mind hearing another "Fly" at this point from the band.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 13, 2009 13:41:28 GMT -5
Rolling Stone has a rundown of some of the tracks likely to make the album, and has this to say about "Get On Your Boots":The print edition has more about the process of making the album, though no more info on this song.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Jan 13, 2009 13:55:23 GMT -5
It's encouraging to hear that they're going back in a more experimental direction. I thought their last two albums (especially Atomic Bomb) were too U2-by-numbers.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 13, 2009 15:07:37 GMT -5
I thought their last two albums (especially Atomic Bomb) were too U2-by-numbers. Whereas, song-for-song, Atomic Bomb is my favorite U2 album.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2009 15:32:54 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear this. Hopefully it's better than "Beautiful Day" and "Vertigo", both of which I find hugely overrated.
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Post by pen on Jan 13, 2009 15:35:22 GMT -5
I thought their last two albums (especially Atomic Bomb) were too U2-by-numbers. Whereas, song-for-song, Atomic Bomb is my favorite U2 album. I actually personally find U2 better when they're more straightforward rather than experimental for the most part.
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Post by Cody on Jan 13, 2009 15:40:56 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear this. Hopefully it's better than "Beautiful Day" and "Vertigo", both of which I find hugely overrated. Meanwhile to me, Beautiful Day and Vertigo are their top 2 songs ever Anyways Im hoping this one follows in line of those two
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Post by musicaddict on Jan 13, 2009 15:48:18 GMT -5
"Beautiful Day" is one of my all-time fav songs.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 13, 2009 16:13:09 GMT -5
I thought their last two albums (especially Atomic Bomb) were too U2-by-numbers. Whereas, song-for-song, Atomic Bomb is my favorite U2 album. I remember Bono saying that, though he'd probably rank "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb" among U2's top three albums to date in that "there's no weak songs here", he added that "the whole isn't greater than the sum of its parts, and it (expletive) annoys me."So perhaps the main criticism of their last album is that, while the songwriting is undoubtedly strong (except for "Vertigo" and "All Because Of You" arguably) it sounds too conservative by U2 records stylistically. The music doesn't take you to another place or aesthetically appease you like some of their other records do, so ultimately it just feels like a collection of strong U2 songs, yet little more than that. Thus why some really love that record, and others think of it as overrated or a reprise of sorts. The genius of "Achtung Baby" was that it did NOT just feel like a record: it felt like a journey of sorts aesthetically. Not just on "The Fly", of course, but with tracks like "Zoo Station", "Mysterious Ways" and "Acrobat" as well. And even on the songs that felt more like traditional U2 structurally, like "One" and "Until The End Of The World", it still didn't feel the same because of the dark personal lyricism and sonic touches. I think the critical stature of "Zooropa" has continued to ascend through the years for the same reason: though it's by no means an immediate record and has no obvious singles (thus why it lacked staying power sales-wise) in time many have come to realize how underrated it is as a record: because the music takes you further into another realm. "Daddy's Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car" STILL sounds unlike anything else to me to this day.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 13, 2009 16:18:51 GMT -5
Whereas, song-for-song, Atomic Bomb is my favorite U2 album. I actually personally find U2 better when they're more straightforward rather than experimental for the most part. In a sense, however, they've often been able to have it both ways. "One", for instance, is lyrically one of the most bare-bone tracks they've ever written. The songwriting is most simple and direct, even if about as dark as Bono has ever been in that department, and yet can be interpreted many different ways all the same. Even a lot of the more rock and roll-styled tracks on "Pop", once you listen to them several times, nonetheless also sound just like traditional U2, and it's just the bizarre tape loops, sonic effects and synthesizers that make the songs sound bizarre. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by WotUNeed on Jan 13, 2009 17:41:58 GMT -5
I certainly wouldn't mind hearing another "Fly" at this point from the band. Same here. I was looking forward to this before, because new U2 is always cool, but this comparison has me somewhat excited. I hope it holds.
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Post by jazklash on Jan 13, 2009 20:42:41 GMT -5
U2 will need to pull off something of a miracle if they still want me to invest in them.
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Post by pen on Jan 13, 2009 20:44:34 GMT -5
U2 will need to pull off something of a miracle if they still want me to invest in them. I'm sure they'll regret the loss.
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Post by jazklash on Jan 13, 2009 20:49:54 GMT -5
Of a forward-thinking fan? I guess so...
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Post by pen on Jan 13, 2009 21:08:05 GMT -5
Ha. Can't be much of a fan if you're that disappointed with them.
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Post by oscillations. on Jan 13, 2009 21:25:07 GMT -5
The word "boots" is in the song title. That's a good sign.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 14, 2009 0:03:06 GMT -5
Here's what I consider U2's five best singles from the 1990's to today:
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1: "The Fly" 2: "One" 3: "Original Of The Species" 4: "Stay (Faraway, So Close)" 5: "Mysterious Ways"
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I'd give two honorable mentions as well: the first to "Lemon", which is actually one of my favorite tracks of theirs, even while I think it was terrible as a single choice, and the second to "Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of".
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 14, 2009 1:05:24 GMT -5
I remember Bono saying that, though he'd probably rank "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb" among U2's top three albums to date in that "there's no weak songs here", he added that "the whole isn't greater than the sum of its parts, and it (expletive) annoys me."I remember reading that. It was in Rolling Stone about 3 years ago. While I definitely see where he's coming from, its overall song quality, as far as I'm concerned, trumps any other record of theirs that has perhaps a more interesting cohesive soundscape to it, yet with maybe a couple of filler songs.
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Post by jazklash on Jan 14, 2009 9:51:09 GMT -5
Ha. Can't be much of an uncritical fan if you're that disappointed with them.
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Post by pen on Jan 14, 2009 12:08:05 GMT -5
Ha. Can't be much of an uncritical fan if you're that disappointed with them. Yes, I'm sure they're glad to have you onboard. God knows what they'd do without you.
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Post by jazklash on Jan 14, 2009 18:57:03 GMT -5
Even more by-the-numbers music than that they have been handing for two albums straight, perhaps...
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Post by pen on Jan 14, 2009 20:03:27 GMT -5
Even more by-the-numbers music than that they have been handing for two albums straight, perhaps... You probably love Pop, don't you.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 15, 2009 1:22:38 GMT -5
I remember Bono saying that, though he'd probably rank "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb" among U2's top three albums to date in that "there's no weak songs here", he added that "the whole isn't greater than the sum of its parts, and it (expletive) annoys me."I remember reading that. It was in Rolling Stone about 3 years ago. While I definitely see where he's coming from, its overall song quality, as far as I'm concerned, trumps any other record of theirs that has perhaps a more interesting cohesive soundscape to it, yet with maybe a couple of filler songs. I loved that album too, although it wouldn't reach my top three when it comes to greatest U2 albums. "Achtung Baby" is their best album to date, in my opinion, followed by "War" and "The Joshua Tree". I'd probably rank either "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb" or "Zooropa" their fourth best (it's hard to decide because, while the former is the more consistent album of the two, the latter is the more brave, daring album, and I think this is one of those instances where I'd rank either one of those records their fourth best depending on my mood almost) Either "October" or "Pop" is their worst album to date, in my view (both albums have strong individual tracks, but both are generally flat albums quality-wise) Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by halo19 on Jan 15, 2009 1:35:05 GMT -5
Wow, I almost completely agree with your assessment on their albums, and it was shown in the artist discussion thread recently, how I had their albums ranked: My U2 albums in preference (familiarity/amount listened considered): 01. Achtung Baby 02. War 03. The Joshua Tree 04. Zooropa 05. How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb ... Or to add to that, both Achtung and War for my money are listenable the whole way through. Joshua has amazing stuff but unfortunately I feel like it kind of fizzles in comparison at the last three tracks. I don't listen to Boy a lot but it's great. Honestly, I kind of felt like Unforgettable Fire was hit-or-miss on the whole. I'd actually rank Pop ahead and did in fact. I kind of feel like ATYCLB had some filler but also felt that the strong moments were enough better than weak ones that it was more a winner for me. I haven't heard the entirety of October.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 15, 2009 16:21:24 GMT -5
Wow, I almost completely agree with your assessment on their albums, and it was shown in the artist discussion thread recently, how I had their albums ranked: My U2 albums in preference (familiarity/amount listened considered): 01. Achtung Baby 02. War 03. The Joshua Tree 04. Zooropa 05. How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb ... Or to add to that, both Achtung and War for my money are listenable the whole way through. Joshua has amazing stuff but unfortunately I feel like it kind of fizzles in comparison at the last three tracks. I don't listen to Boy a lot but it's great. Honestly, I kind of felt like Unforgettable Fire was hit-or-miss on the whole. I'd actually rank Pop ahead and did in fact. I kind of feel like ATYCLB had some filler but also felt that the strong moments were enough better than weak ones that it was more a winner for me. I haven't heard the entirety of October. "Boy" is a decent debut record of theirs, but also not at all one of the more interesting nor great debut records out there. "War" is when the band genuinely begins to shine, I believe, after hitting a sophomore slump of sorts in songwriting with "October". I agree with "The Unforgettable Fire". There are two moments on the album that are among the best the band has ever produced there, including "Bad" (one of my five all-time favorite U2 songs) but all in all I actually think it's arguably their weakest collaborative effort with Brian Eno. You can see them turning the page there surely, but it doesn't come across as particularly convincing there yet. "All That You Can't Leave Behind" is pretty much perfect until after "Wild Honey" (even the music saves the lyrics from "Elevation" becoming a flop). After "Wild Honey", I feel "New York" is the only track that really stands out. The rest of the remaining tracks sound too respondent to even be reflective, which is a shame because "Grace" is strong lyrically but just doesn't resonate as well as it should because it slumbers in sound. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by blurple on Jan 16, 2009 16:38:29 GMT -5
My radio station said they're gonna have this song by this Monday.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 16, 2009 23:06:47 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to this. I'm not expecting a WHOLE lot from it since I haven't really LOVED a U2 song since the 'All You Can't Leave Behind' days but even still, they can usually provide something decent.
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Jan 18, 2009 20:05:17 GMT -5
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Post by Young Money on Jan 18, 2009 20:31:13 GMT -5
Clip is only 22 seconds. Very hard to make judgement. I can say it is pretty good though.
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