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Post by bamafan2102 on Jan 26, 2009 2:24:29 GMT -5
How Could You? will be the next single from Cinco Diablo. I saw the the guys Saturday night (1/24) and Josie Scott asked the crowd "You guys wanna hear the new fu**in single?" I like this better than Family Reunion and it is a standout track on the somewhat ho hum album. By the way, the concert was ho-hum as well.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jan 26, 2009 12:00:46 GMT -5
My least favorite on the promo CD. I like Family Reunion only slightly better.
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Post by Matt4319 on Jan 26, 2009 15:09:52 GMT -5
How could they? (Bother with another single, that is.)
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jan 26, 2009 16:28:05 GMT -5
How did "Cinco Diablo" only reach #104 on the Billboard 200? I always thought Saliva was way more popular than that. Hell, Sevendust got as high as #19 with "Chapter VII: Hope & Sorrow" and Saliva always does way better at radio than they do. Is their some obvious reason this album has had such a poor showing (other than the mediocrity of "Family Reunion")?
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Post by PHOBES on Jan 26, 2009 18:08:43 GMT -5
How did "Cinco Diablo" only reach #104 on the Billboard 200? I always thought Saliva was way more popular than that. Hell, Sevendust got as high as #19 with "Chapter VII: Hope & Sorrow" and Saliva always does way better at radio than they do. Is their some obvious reason this album has had such a poor showing (other than the mediocrity of "Family Reunion")? The mediocrity of their previous album.
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Post by pen on Jan 26, 2009 19:09:41 GMT -5
How did "Cinco Diablo" only reach #104 on the Billboard 200? I always thought Saliva was way more popular than that. Hell, Sevendust got as high as #19 with "Chapter VII: Hope & Sorrow" and Saliva always does way better at radio than they do. Is their some obvious reason this album has had such a poor showing (other than the mediocrity of "Family Reunion")? The mediocrity of their previous album. Doubtful since their last album went Gold and the three singles all did pretty well. Nice crack at them though. I think a lot of it probably has to do with the fact that the album wasn't promoted very well and it was released in December, where a lot of albums had trouble making sales. Fall Out Boy and All-American Rejects didn't do anywhere near what they should've either. It's just that time of year.
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Post by Cody on Jan 26, 2009 19:43:10 GMT -5
Ive said this many times, Saliva is a declining band
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Post by PHOBES on Jan 26, 2009 20:13:51 GMT -5
The mediocrity of their previous album. Doubtful since their last album went Gold and the three singles all did pretty well. Nice crack at them though. Crack or not, I think charting where it did speaks for itself. People bought BSLS, and its singles charted well, because they're Saliva. None of the singles were any good (Ladies and Gents may have been catchy, but it wasn't very good). Maybe it's just me, but the whole album seemed sub-par, more like double-par. Face it, a lot of people were disappointed with it. With that said, no one was expecting good things this time around either, and the first single confirmed it. I'll admit I wasn't expecting a debut at over 100, but I for one wasn't planning on buying it, so it really doesn't surprise me a whole lot.
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jvandyck87
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jan 26, 2009 21:25:07 GMT -5
Yeah #104 is ridiculous. Plus, penance, if sales are down around December in general, that won't affect where it is relative to all the other albums that are suffering. 15,000 copies I would think is quite high of a first week total to be at #104 considering albums that approach 30,000 copies in a week tend to make the top 20 if I'm not mistaken.
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pen
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Post by pen on Jan 26, 2009 22:35:25 GMT -5
I just don't really care enough to argue.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 1, 2009 13:58:04 GMT -5
How could they? (Bother with another single, that is.) A'burn. [/Fez]
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Post by Cody on Feb 15, 2009 16:34:15 GMT -5
LOL ok
first listen of this, theyve lost any creativity they had
"Family Reunion" is a clone of "Ladies And Gentlemen"
"How Could You" is a clone of "Always"
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Post by pen on Feb 15, 2009 16:40:46 GMT -5
I think it's really obvious at this point that Saliva only exists to try to make Island money. I like the band still and I think they have their better points, but I think they are better off leaving Island and going somewhere where they don't have to keep ripping themselves off in order to climb the charts.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Feb 18, 2009 14:48:16 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the "declining" artist argument. At any time a band can put out a great album. Example...early 80's the only talk was Aerosmith was done. They had a few brutal albums and then the came back with Permanent Vacation and Pump and to this day are now regarded as one of the all time great rock bands.
Do I really believe Saliva could be that? No, not really, they haven't shown me that yet. But to say that they are in permanent decline is unfair because as musicians they could create something very good and valid at anytime. Are they fantastic right now? No. Do they put out some short term entertaining music? Well, they obviously do to someone, or they wouldnt still be around.
As for this song. Its the best I've heard off the album so far (that saying, I've only heard a few songs so far). And I like it enough to listen to more than a few times. That said, the defining moment of any song for me in "greatness" is "would I buy the album because of this song".....and the answer to that at this time is no.
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Post by pen on Feb 18, 2009 15:02:51 GMT -5
I think what Saliva really needs to do is leave Island, sign up with Eleven Seven, and put out a really great album (again if you are a fan of Back Into Your System like I am).
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 18, 2009 22:34:08 GMT -5
I wish Sevendust would sign with Eleven Seven. By seeing how Drowning Pool and Tantric have done at radio with these albums with these slow burning singles, it makes me think that bands like Sevendust and Saliva could do very well on this label.
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Post by fran182 on Mar 22, 2009 17:43:43 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 50 on Mediabase Active:
58 50 SALIVA How Could You? 138 91 47 0.612
19 stations playing.
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Post by sofaraway26 on Mar 23, 2009 6:21:03 GMT -5
good news. I love that album and that song :)
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 5, 2009 13:17:50 GMT -5
Top 40 on Active Rock 44 40 SALIVA How Could You? 2008 287 209 78
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