**βécky**™
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Post by **βécky**™ on Oct 18, 2007 22:05:48 GMT -5
LOL! No. I was just saying its not a surprise if she does do better in Canada cause usually people get more love where they are from. Not always, but a lot of time it happens. LOL. I was being sarcastic. Canadian radio HAS to play Canadian artists. It's law. YEP. a certain % of the radio staion playlist must be Canadian. But since we have samsh artists like Nelly and Avril, it doesnt really matter.
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Post by Taylor. on Oct 18, 2007 22:08:08 GMT -5
Yup, that's why they play the HELL out of any song that gets decent call-out scores by a Canadian artist-- so they can bombard us with that song over and over again and say it's because it got good call-out scores when really it's to fill their percentage of CDN content.
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Post by dperkins on Oct 18, 2007 22:08:54 GMT -5
LMAO!! Thats soo funny.
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Post by Taylor. on Oct 18, 2007 22:14:38 GMT -5
You try listening to terrible songs like "Insatiable" by Elisa Estrada 30x a day, and we'll see who'll be laughing then.
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Post by **βécky**™ on Oct 18, 2007 22:16:41 GMT -5
You try listening to terrible songs like "Insatiable" by Elisa Estrada 30x a day, and we'll see who'll be laughing then. UMM.....Right here. and IX-Nay
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 18, 2007 22:42:54 GMT -5
What do u mean with this? Kelly Clarkson (My December), Pink (Try This), and lets face it Ashlee Simpson (rumored "Color Outside The Line") more likely headed for underpreformance compared to Autobiography and the most successful 3rd album pop/rock dominator Avril Lavigne (The Best Damn Thing) which is still an underpreformance compared to "Under My Skin". Well. I always forgive ... 'Try This' is the third album But TBDT isnt a flop when its the second album in sales this year. But when we look at UMS ... Avril is changing her career, this is good when you get the right steps and I dont know if she is doing it right. I dont like the way she's going. But when i look the "third albums" ...some people get the oposite way that was going. Britney, Nelly Furtado, Avril Lavigne... it works well And about Kelly Clarkson, I cant believe she is floping! After sells around 10KK worldwide I personally dont like of My December, i expect more from her But maybe I just didnt hear much Cause I dont even remember a song... just One Minute... and when i saw DWYT video i like the song Maybe she can get a "My happy Ending" for her this era. If not... a fourth album will do better... maybe some "Im Not Dead" for her in the next era!
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 18, 2007 22:55:28 GMT -5
Eh Kelly will be fine :) Flopping but giving your true fans what they want is fun (well minus my OM video dammit!) Gives her a little bit more of a life too, if she woulda had another string of #1's I think she would be heading to burnout - she's happier than ever right now :) Damn straight her next one will be her I'm Not Dead! More like "I'm still #1, bitches!"
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Post by dperkins on Oct 18, 2007 22:57:35 GMT -5
Well, hopefully her next one doesn't struggle like IND did.
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Post by Sticky&Sweet™ on Oct 18, 2007 23:02:10 GMT -5
I don't care if MD is underperforming. It's a solid album IMO. One of the best albums this year.
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Post by dperkins on Oct 18, 2007 23:02:44 GMT -5
FOR SURE! lol
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 18, 2007 23:08:28 GMT -5
I don't care if MD is underperforming. It's a solid album IMO. One of the best albums this year. ;) Yeah... i dont like MD, but i've to agree that this is the base of MD era and the most important for her and the true fans! And when i said that for the next era she comes with a "im not dead" is for her comes with an album that overcomes a flop. That was not about the music type.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 18, 2007 23:15:24 GMT -5
Oh yah, when I said that too had nothing to do with the music. I'm probably gonna prefer the music of MD to her 4th album, but never know - commercial friendly can still be depthful as seen with Breakaway and UMS. Anyway, back to Avril ...uhm yah she's hot! GL to this song.
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 18, 2007 23:17:45 GMT -5
Oh yah, when I said that too had nothing to do with the music. I'm probably gonna prefer the music of MD to her 4th album, but never know - commercial friendly can still be depthful as seen with Breakaway and UMS. Anyway, back to Avril ...uhm yah she's hot! GL to this song. GL = great look or what?
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 18, 2007 23:26:22 GMT -5
Oh yah, when I said that too had nothing to do with the music. I'm probably gonna prefer the music of MD to her 4th album, but never know - commercial friendly can still be depthful as seen with Breakaway and UMS. Anyway, back to Avril ...uhm yah she's hot! GL to this song. GL = great look or what? Good Luck This song is no where near great looking lol, it goes for adds in like 5 days and still in the 90's - NOT GOOD. Course this is not exactly rare, sometimes adds dates actually help even with established artists who's on a consecutive top 10 run. If it stalls here it would be the biggest flop by any established female artist this decade, thus why I said 'Good Luck' 89 90 AVRIL LAVIGNE Hot 114 94 20 0.463 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AI's are up though.
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 18, 2007 23:27:47 GMT -5
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 18, 2007 23:31:17 GMT -5
dont know why i said 'great' ... this word is in my head....
hummm Ive to say, if it flop... a side of mine will be happy... but it wont flop
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 18, 2007 23:34:30 GMT -5
Good Luck This song is no where near great looking lol, it goes for adds in like 5 days and still in the 90's - NOT GOOD. Course this is not exactly rare, sometimes adds dates actually help even with established artists who's on a consecutive top 10 run. If it stalls here it would be the biggest flop by any established female artist this decade, thus why I said 'Good Luck' 89 90 AVRIL LAVIGNE Hot 114 94 20 0.463 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AI's are up though. I remember GF had had a similar run before it was added
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 18, 2007 23:35:57 GMT -5
Hey, she just won the award for Best International Pop Artist at MTV Latin Music Award
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 18, 2007 23:37:11 GMT -5
I don't remember that about GF well,,,, maybe this is a good sign
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 18, 2007 23:39:21 GMT -5
She did an acoustic session on Roxy Theatre ... I hope some songs leak.... she was with evan...
Goooood Times
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Post by ninek on Oct 19, 2007 6:24:45 GMT -5
89 88 AVRIL LAVIGNE Hot 117 97 20 0.450
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 19, 2007 11:38:40 GMT -5
Lol I don't remember Girlfriend sitting in the 90's - 80's for almost 3 weeks and especially a couple days before adds but ok
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Oct 19, 2007 12:07:45 GMT -5
WYG should NOT have been the 2nd single. LOL! In a summer full of ballads it kind of got shoved aside and slowed the era WAY down. I think it might have worked better if they had swapped Hot & WYG. But whatever, it seems like these Pop/Rock females have issues with 3rd albums. LOL! But she has sold almost 4.5 mill WW so if I was her I wouldnt be complaining, and the song didnt flop so thats another good thing. I think her albums sales in the US are fine considering this day and age.. it obviously could be smashing but overall its doing fine and so have her singles.. well have to see with Hot but I doubt itll flop but ya never know. Yeah, My December, Try This & The Best Damn Thing were all 3rd albums and 2 flopped while this one is struggling. How is TBDT struggling? Maybe a lil in the US but WW its doing FANTASTIC! I wouldnt compare this to MD or TT. Shes having much more success than both of them (singles and album) and P!nks album is a lot older where sales were a lil higher. I don't care if MD is underperforming. It's a solid album IMO. One of the best albums this year. Solid album? LOL
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Post by Felicia on Oct 19, 2007 13:23:17 GMT -5
HMV website says 29th... ???
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 19, 2007 14:21:40 GMT -5
Hearing this more and more, sounds weird but I think Avril's vocals are way too loud in this song. The way stations have it right now just might be too harsh on radio, thus why its kinda sitting there on the charts. I cannot make that call though, has anyone heard this on the radio yet? Maybe they can give us some insight.
This might need a radio mix, sounds weird but its possible. She means it when she says "I'll say it outloud" - damn girl, tone it down! The second part is definately too much Avril. Would be ironic in trying to create a radio friendly sound it did the exact opposite. Time will tell..
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Oct 19, 2007 14:26:29 GMT -5
I heard it on radio and it pretty much sounded the same to me.. I dont LOVE this song so I dont listen to it much.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 19, 2007 14:27:52 GMT -5
I heard it on radio and it pretty much sounded the same to me.. I dont LOVE this song so I dont listen to it much. Didn't sound louder than hell? Oh ok, that blows that theory lol. I just can't understand why its moving so slowly this close to adds.
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 19, 2007 14:28:57 GMT -5
WYG should NOT have been the 2nd single. LOL! In a summer full of ballads it kind of got shoved aside and slowed the era WAY down. I think it might have worked better if they had swapped Hot & WYG. But whatever, it seems like these Pop/Rock females have issues with 3rd albums. LOL! But she has sold almost 4.5 mill WW so if I was her I wouldnt be complaining, and the song didnt flop so thats another good thing. I think her albums sales in the US are fine considering this day and age.. it obviously could be smashing but overall its doing fine and so have her singles.. well have to see with Hot but I doubt itll flop but ya never know. How is TBDT struggling? Maybe a lil in the US but WW its doing FANTASTIC! I wouldnt compare this to MD or TT. Shes having much more success than both of them (singles and album) and Pinks album is a lot older where sales were a lil higher. I don't care if MD is underperforming. It's a solid album IMO. One of the best albums this year. Solid album? LOL Sorry if I spark some controversy sayin this, but this is a CHR panel that I assume is specific to the U. S. so it's really confusin when people say that a CD is flopping (and they mean in the U. S.) and then someone else cites high worldwide sales I'm prob. gonna spark even more controversy sayin this but...a lot of times Established Artist + Poor Lyrics = Poor U. S. Sales but High Sales In Other Countries (esp. those where English is not the predominate language) Arghh I think the Avril fans are gonna kill me...sorry
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Oct 19, 2007 14:32:36 GMT -5
Talking about just the US, I dont think over 1 million sales for 2 singles is flopping or struggling.. my favorite artist 'Pink' would love to have sold what Avril has sold after 2 singles, Pink has released 3 and one a second time and shes still not where shes at.. Yes sales could be a lot stronger but the song didnt flop imo and neither has her album.. now that could be a different story after this single.
heres some examples - Back To Basics 1.6 mill (3 singles, two pretty successful ones), Im Not Dead around 1.1 mill (3 singles, one re-released). Im sure theres lots of other people but those are the two I can think of right now.
And I dont think this album has poor lyrics, some songs arent amazing lyric wise but I dont think that matters, especially in the US. Girlfriend was a SMASH and look at those lyrics.. WYG better lyrics but not as big.. Hot, too early to tell.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 19, 2007 14:34:06 GMT -5
I'm prob. gonna spark even more controversy sayin this but...a lot of times Established Artist + Poor Lyrics = Poor U. S. Sales but High Sales In Other Countries (esp. those where English is not the predominate language) Arghh I think the Avril fans are gonna kill me...sorry ^ Its nothing they haven't heard before lol. Avril fans are pretty passive aggressive (oxymoron but best way to describe it).
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