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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 19, 2007 14:41:23 GMT -5
Talking about just the US, I dont think over 1 million sales for 2 singles is flopping or struggling.. my favorite artist 'Pink' would love to have sold what Avril has sold after 2 singles, Pink has released 3 and one a second time and shes still not where shes at.. Yes sales could be a lot stronger but the song didnt flop imo and neither has her album.. now that could be a different story after this single. Oh I didn't mean to say her CD flopped or that her two singles so far did...the CD just didn't do as well as it should have in the U. S. (according to posts on this panel - I have no idea what the numbers are), and the only real big "hit" from it (on par with Complicated, Sk8er Boi, I'm With You, Don't Tell Me, and My Happy Ending) was "Girlfriend"
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Post by mugshot on Oct 19, 2007 18:14:51 GMT -5
But she has sold almost 4.5 mill WW so if I was her I wouldnt be complaining, and the song didnt flop so thats another good thing. I think her albums sales in the US are fine considering this day and age.. it obviously could be smashing but overall its doing fine and so have her singles.. well have to see with Hot but I doubt itll flop but ya never know. How is TBDT struggling? Maybe a lil in the US but WW its doing FANTASTIC! I wouldnt compare this to MD or TT. Shes having much more success than both of them (singles and album) and Pinks album is a lot older where sales were a lil higher. Solid album? LOL Sorry if I spark some controversy sayin this, but this is a CHR panel that I assume is specific to the U. S. so it's really confusin when people say that a CD is flopping (and they mean in the U. S.) and then someone else cites high worldwide sales I'm prob. gonna spark even more controversy sayin this but...a lot of times Established Artist + Poor Lyrics = Poor U. S. Sales but High Sales In Other Countries (esp. those where English is not the predominate language) Arghh I think the Avril fans are gonna kill me...sorry Her U.S sales aren't poor. Platinum in todays industry is healthy. And she has gone multi-platinum in a few english speaking countries( like australia). TBDT has suffered in sales mostly because of itunes and the drop in sales since 2003(when UMS was released) but she's selling quite well. Let's not forget that TBDT is the second highest selling album of the year.
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 19, 2007 18:58:44 GMT -5
Sorry if I spark some controversy sayin this, but this is a CHR panel that I assume is specific to the U. S. so it's really confusin when people say that a CD is flopping (and they mean in the U. S.) and then someone else cites high worldwide sales I'm prob. gonna spark even more controversy sayin this but...a lot of times Established Artist + Poor Lyrics = Poor U. S. Sales but High Sales In Other Countries (esp. those where English is not the predominate language) Arghh I think the Avril fans are gonna kill me...sorry Her U.S sales aren't poor. Platinum in todays industry is healthy. And she has gone multi-platinum in a few english speaking countries( like australia). TBDT has suffered in sales mostly because of itunes and the drop in sales since 2003(when UMS was released) but she's selling quite well. Let's not forget that TBDT is the second highest selling album of the year. UMS release was May of 2004
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Post by dperkins on Oct 19, 2007 19:01:03 GMT -5
What I meant by struggling wasn't JUST with album sales. Her singles haven't exactly been storming up the charts. Avril has had A LOT of hits and so far this album it seems like the hype is gone and no one cares anymore this era. She may be over a million with 2 singles, BUT if Hot flops and they release another single and it flops, it WOULD be struggling for Avril. What may be struggling for one artist may not be struggling for another.
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 19, 2007 19:09:48 GMT -5
yep... Avril dont even can get a fourth single...it always flop
... and well... Hot is the 4# single.... I know KHO was not official... but it did very well!
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Post by dperkins on Oct 19, 2007 19:11:25 GMT -5
Yeah, KHO did do well. It COULD have done better had the put some promo behind it.
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 19, 2007 19:15:26 GMT -5
Yeah, KHO did do well. It COULD have done better had the put some promo behind it. ;)
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Oct 19, 2007 20:29:49 GMT -5
What I meant by struggling wasn't JUST with album sales. Her singles haven't exactly been storming up the charts. Avril has had A LOT of hits and so far this album it seems like the hype is gone and no one cares anymore this era. She may be over a million with 2 singles, BUT if Hot flops and they release another single and it flops, it WOULD be struggling for Avril. What may be struggling for one artist may not be struggling for another. Ok, so youre saying if those songs flop shell be struggling? So shes not struggling now?? Im confused. I still look at Girlfriend and When You're Gone both successful songs for Avril. Hot has yet to go for adds so we cant even judge that one yet.. Anything can happen after what Pink achieved with U + UR Hand. I will say the only thing Im worried about is Hot being the next single, this song could lose all momentum for the album.. People were ok with WYG but if theyre given a not so good next single theyll be thinking, NEXT. This is the next single? What else is on that album??
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 19, 2007 20:51:13 GMT -5
oh shit...im drunk and i will drees like Snow White ...lets parrrrty
Uhuuuu
Hey Hey... uu idont like ur boyfriend i think u need a new one
Goooooooo Avril
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 19, 2007 20:53:59 GMT -5
and WYG broke the lags of album 2 weeks out of top 40 WW
sell less 40kthis week
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Oct 19, 2007 21:01:36 GMT -5
^OUCH. Ok maybe she is struggling, I thought she was pulling in a good amount WW. How many new releases though cause there has been a lot of the last month! She is def nearing the end of this single so hopefully Hot can bring em up a bit! We need to think also that a lot of stations have been playing WYG so that has to die down a bit b4 Hot will take off. :)
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Post by Hierophant on Oct 19, 2007 21:27:02 GMT -5
last week there was a lot of new albums this week there is 9... fergie and justin are in the list by the 57# week
Im a drunk king the best damn thing and the motherf**ker princess
Whithe Snow and the Seven dwarfs tonight I will Freak Out
next week avril will comeback to top 40 WW......im sure (i think) -lOlo
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 19, 2007 23:36:18 GMT -5
Lol I don't remember Girlfriend sitting in the 90's - 80's for almost 3 weeks and especially a couple days before adds but ok I remember it was sitting around 60s or 70s fews day before. But it was the first single ;)
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 19, 2007 23:42:48 GMT -5
KHO wasn't a single off of TBDT. It was a single of Eragon OST album ! They even didn't want to put it in TBDT at first ! yeah KHO did help album's sale . But Hot's still 3rd single off !
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 19, 2007 23:44:14 GMT -5
HMV website says 29th... ??? Which one is more reliable. I don't know ???
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Post by Felicia on Oct 20, 2007 2:20:34 GMT -5
HMV website says 29th... ??? Which one is more reliable. I don't know ??? I'm assuming HMV because it has all release dates of CDs, singles, DVDs etc. Amazon also has the release date set on 29th.
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Post by Felicia on Oct 20, 2007 2:59:11 GMT -5
Avril will be performing on the 'American Music Awards' & 'Dancing With The Stars'. She better sings 'Hot' if she wants hot downloads!
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 20, 2007 5:07:14 GMT -5
Oh, thanks Felicia. I think 10/29 is better day !
I hope she will win an award. But she often loses in US :(
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Post by Nevermind on Oct 20, 2007 6:14:18 GMT -5
91 87 AVRIL LAVIGNE Hot 126 97 29 0.499
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 20, 2007 7:44:54 GMT -5
+9 spins . It's not too bad
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Post by vinyl on Oct 20, 2007 8:51:41 GMT -5
Avril will be performing on the 'American Music Awards' & 'Dancing With The Stars'. She better sings 'Hot' if she wants hot downloads! Seriously - that is good promo, she better use it wisely. I'm not expecting this to be a huge hit, but I'd like it to do decently well.
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Post by deodorant on Oct 20, 2007 9:15:17 GMT -5
I really don't like this song. I Can Do Better would have worked out better. She better release Innocence as the 4th single.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 20, 2007 9:46:31 GMT -5
I do not think she is flopping (especially worldwide) but this era will definitely not be a wild runaway smash of an era like people assumed it would be off the strength of Girlfriend.
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Post by Juanca on Oct 20, 2007 17:22:46 GMT -5
I just wish WYB had been on the Eragon soundtrack (perfect fit: cheesy song, cheesy movie! ) and KHO was chosen as THE ballad of TBDT. I think she could have pulled that out much, much better!! I still hear KHO once in awhile and enjoy it a lot.
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Post by 4 Minutes to be a Legend on Oct 21, 2007 1:47:48 GMT -5
Was 'Keep Holding On' even recorded during the BDT sessions or was it recorded before? It seems like it was 'selected' from her album to be on the soundtrack.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Oct 21, 2007 2:12:29 GMT -5
Was 'Keep Holding On' even recorded during the BDT sessions or was it recorded before? It seems like it was 'selected' from her album to be on the soundtrack. Assuming before since they decided to 'add' it as a bonus track (last track) of the album. Originally a different version of it was suppose to be included for the 'bonus' instead they used the original. They planned on releasing Girlfriend (according to Dr. Luke post on here) earlier but held it off since the soundtrack song KHO kept rising in popularity (especially in Canada, only being bested off by Furtado).
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Post by Felicia on Oct 21, 2007 4:34:23 GMT -5
Avril specially wrote & recorded 'KHO' for the movie.
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Post by Nevermind on Oct 21, 2007 6:15:56 GMT -5
90 84 AVRIL LAVIGNE Hot 133 96 37 0.552
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Post by Chris Ng on Oct 21, 2007 7:34:03 GMT -5
+7 spins !
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Post by jrnleblanc on Oct 21, 2007 8:03:08 GMT -5
Canadian Update: 10 11 AVRIL LAVIGNE Hot 2007 RCA/RMG 320 317 3 3.060
its done!!!!......or is it???
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