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Post by pen on Feb 8, 2009 23:20:21 GMT -5
Not to overshadow the Blink news, but Green Day's 21st Century Breakdown comes out in May. No word on the first single yet, but damn, Green Day and Blink in the same time frame? And MCR and Paramore with stuff yet to come? Could this year get any better for pop-punk? I submit that it could not!
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Post by PHOBES on Feb 8, 2009 23:23:32 GMT -5
Eh, I used to be a huge Green Day fan. Lately I've seen the light, but they're still ok. I'll still check out the album, but pop-punk seems to have burned out on me.
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Post by tortuga on Feb 8, 2009 23:24:45 GMT -5
The TBA threads need to chill.
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Post by PHOBES on Feb 8, 2009 23:27:05 GMT -5
The TBA threads need to chill. Yeah, when Artie see's them he's gonna go on one of his "The rules don't apply!" tirades.
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Post by pen on Feb 8, 2009 23:31:08 GMT -5
The TBA threads need to chill. Yeah like there's a whole lot of interesting discussion going on elsewhere.
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Post by American Idiot on Feb 8, 2009 23:55:33 GMT -5
Woohoo!!! I can't believe it's been 4 1/2 years since "American Idiot" came out. It's so nice to know in only three months, a new release will be out from one of the first bands that got me into music in the mid-90s.
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Post by crash46 on Feb 8, 2009 23:59:09 GMT -5
As great as American Idiot was, I can't help but to believe they've only set themselves up for a letdown here. Surely it'll do fine on the radio, and its first single will be at #1 no more than three weeks following its release, but their expectations are higher than ever now, and really, their only great albums include AI and Dookie.
I mean, I know they can do it and all, and this is the most anticipated release of the year for me, but if I get myself too excited here, it will be a letdown.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Feb 9, 2009 0:38:45 GMT -5
I really agree, it's going to be really hard to follow American Idiot.
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Post by American Idiot on Feb 9, 2009 14:47:54 GMT -5
I don't think it's possible because AI is probably somewhere near the top of the list of almost every pop-punk fan's favorite albums of all-time. I'm still completely stoked to hear their new stuff even if it's mediocre at best. All that I care is that it's freaking GREEN DAY and it's NEW!
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Post by pen on Feb 9, 2009 14:52:29 GMT -5
Well word of mouth is that the album is going to have sixteen songs, be divided into three acts, and it's going to be religion-themed. So take that for what you will. It sounds like they're trying to literally follow-up American Idiot. I can sort of see why it would be hard to go back to an album like Warning after creating something so much more complex.
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Post by fran182 on Feb 9, 2009 16:19:54 GMT -5
We should get the lead single soon. 2009 will be an awesome year for music. :) I'm really curious and excited to hear the new album. Hopefully, it won't let me down. Anyone here likes "Longview" as much as I do? ;P
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Post by Minimalism on Feb 9, 2009 22:29:44 GMT -5
That song about masturbation? Yeah, I quite like it. I just hope this one is at least better than U2's new one.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Feb 9, 2009 23:24:48 GMT -5
Personally, I would love for them to go back to basics. As high-concept as AI may have been, the quality of the songs is what really made it such a success. If they could maintain that quality without necessarily taking the concept album route again, I'm sure people would embrace the album. If anything, I think they're setting themselves up for failure more by trying to do American Idiot Pt. 2. But who knows, it may turn out to be great.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Feb 10, 2009 0:03:36 GMT -5
Massive albums by any band are hard to follow up because they come with so much expectation. Even if the album is solid it may not receive the acclaim or glory of AI and may be one of those albums that's only appreciated years later, ala Weezer's "Pinkerton". Here's hoping that Green Day can put out a few more classics and avoid that stigma with this album. It may have been the smartest thing they could do to wait this long to release a new album.
Oh and apparently after doing a little searching it looks like it will be a concept type album.
Partial album track listing was released in AP Magazine in December as (Possibly to be changed but the titles seem consistent)
Act 1: Heroes and Cons
1. 21st Century Breakdown 2. Know Your Enemy 3. Viva la Gloria 4. Before the Lobotomy 5. Christian's Inferno 6. Last Night on Earth
Act 2: Charlatans and Saints
7. March of the Dogs
Good on them for going the Coldplay route with a "Viva La" song, lol
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 10, 2009 0:17:35 GMT -5
Hot Rage Against The Machine remake!
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Post by halo19 on Feb 10, 2009 0:36:10 GMT -5
Hot U2 remake! I think the fact that they're having Butch Vig produce is a positive sign of things, but I'll not know what to think until hearing the songs obviously.
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Post by pen on Feb 10, 2009 0:39:50 GMT -5
Green Day's got way too much class to be doing a hot Sum 41 remake.
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Post by Slinky on Feb 10, 2009 2:46:51 GMT -5
Personally, I would love for them to go back to basics. As high-concept as AI may have been, the quality of the songs is what really made it such a success. If they could maintain that quality without necessarily taking the concept album route again, I'm sure people would embrace the album. If anything, I think they're setting themselves up for failure more by trying to do American Idiot Pt. 2. But who knows, it may turn out to be great. I disagree here. While the songs on AI were all individually good, when put together, the album was so much greater than the sum of its parts. The concept tied everything together and made me appreciate all of the songs, and especially the medleys, so much more. I agree with willthefutureblameus- how do you go back to Warning after American Idiot? The new album doesn't have to be another rock opera, but there should be something to tie the whole thing together. It's what fans expect, and if I were Billy Joe, at this point in my career, I don't think I'd be satisfied just putting together a random selection of songs. It would seem like a huge step backwards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 12:53:21 GMT -5
Personally, I would love for them to go back to basics. As high-concept as AI may have been, the quality of the songs is what really made it such a success. If they could maintain that quality without necessarily taking the concept album route again, I'm sure people would embrace the album. If anything, I think they're setting themselves up for failure more by trying to do American Idiot Pt. 2. But who knows, it may turn out to be great. I agree with this completely.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 11, 2009 3:34:21 GMT -5
One of the things I retained from reading the AP article a little while back was that Christian : St. Jimmy :: Gloria : Whatsername.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 12, 2009 12:52:07 GMT -5
Here's the album cover: (Look at me with the hot scoop for once.) EDIT: Why don't we go ahead and blow that up a little more.
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Post by halo19 on Feb 12, 2009 13:04:11 GMT -5
One of the things I retained from reading the AP article a little while back was that Christian : St. Jimmy :: Gloria : Whatsername. Wow, I forgot they were having two U2 remakes here.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 12, 2009 13:16:14 GMT -5
Wow, I forgot they were having two U2 remakes here. Oh, you. P.S. You can actually hear a long snippet of "21st Century Breakdown"'s intro at Green Day's website. (The song never actually kicks in, though. Wouldn't want to give away too much too soon, would we, seeing that it's still gonna be 3 more months till the album. ;)) From the article, it sounds like it's gonna be an epic song, though. It's all right here. From the article, we can also add "Restless Heart Syndrome" and "21 Guns" to the tracklisting somewhere.
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Post by aTunes on Feb 12, 2009 16:29:54 GMT -5
So anyone else think they could totally bomb this time around? I mean it's been 5 years, and as much as I like GD, I hate to say it, but they seem really outdated to me right now. Unless they come back with a unique and new sound, I don't see people going for AI in 2009.
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Post by PHOBES on Feb 12, 2009 16:30:16 GMT -5
Currently listening to the clip....have they forgotten all but two chords now?
*Clip ends*
Well, um...ok. They really don't wanna give ANYTHING away.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 12, 2009 17:59:00 GMT -5
So anyone else think they could totally bomb this time around? I mean it's been 5 years, and as much as I like GD, I hate to say it, but they seem really outdated to me right now. Unless they come back with a unique and new sound, I don't see people going for AI in 2009. They very well could. They have astronomically high expectations to live up to this era, and even selling two million will look like a disappointment. The band has said, however, that this album will have a dominantly power-pop sound to it, instead of punk rock. That means we can expect much more melodic songs in the vein of the Kinks in terms of classics, Big Star and Matthew Sweet in terms of more modern material of the genre. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by halo19 on Feb 12, 2009 22:55:19 GMT -5
Whatever it is will end up still having a couple hits at least anyway. Remember, Insomniac wasn't quite on par with Dookie's expectations but was no failure, which could arguably said about everything up to AI.
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 12, 2009 23:37:16 GMT -5
They're definitely going for stadium-pop/rock ala Coldplay, U2 - I'm very very very excited!
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Post by pen on Feb 14, 2009 12:51:20 GMT -5
We received the 6 song promo CD yesterday for Breakdown. It's more of the same as American Idiot, which wasn't one of my favorites from the band. The obvious singles are the title cut and 21 Guns. But no matter what they put out, radio will jump on it fast. It was one thing when places like Rolling Stone and MTV were receiving the promo, but I really fail to see why in hell you of all people have the promo before Absolute Punk. A site which arguably cares a hundred times more about this new album than anyone else ever will. That's actually really insulting, almost.
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Post by pen on Feb 16, 2009 16:04:39 GMT -5
Absolute Punk is only the biggest punk website in the world. I'm really surprised you've never heard of them.
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