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Post by queentensuited on Feb 18, 2009 18:55:49 GMT -5
CBS Radio has announced that KLSX - currently a Talk station - will become "ALL THE HITS, AMP 97.1" at 5PM on Friday 2/20.
I think it's a movement equal to suicide. How can you launch a Top 40 station in a market that already has a dominant radio station that just so happens to have the face of pop culture at the moment... as its morning show?
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Post by Slinky on Feb 18, 2009 19:04:14 GMT -5
The rumor is that a new NYC CHR is next on the agenda for CBS, probably on 92.3.
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Post by Rurry on Feb 18, 2009 19:19:07 GMT -5
I'm glad they're getting a new CHR. KIIS is terrible, especially for a market as huge as LA.
A little confused about the new NYC CHR since z100 is so massive...but it'll be interesting to get something new here.
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Post by tico on Feb 18, 2009 22:32:16 GMT -5
Great for L.A. and possibly New York on getting new CHRs. I won't be surprised if it filters down to other markets getting new CHRs too.
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Post by John77 on Feb 19, 2009 0:54:47 GMT -5
FINALLY!!! I've waited nearly 20 years for this day. I can't believe it's finally going to happen... Emmis has really blown an opportunity to put the squeeze on KIIS as the chance for KMVN to flip is now going to be gone.
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Post by Sir Benji on Feb 19, 2009 10:17:04 GMT -5
CBS has been doing this alot recently, back in March Houston's only smooth jazz station flipped to a Rhythmic-leaning CHR KKHH but it was a bittersweet thing because i really liked that jazz station but we were definately in need of another CHR our veteran CHR here was bought out by Cumulous in 2005   so yeah we needed a CHR that would play "fresher"/newer music hence why it's a rhythmic leaning chr they play too much Hot AC material and not enough Pop songs but i listen to both and it's a nice bakance the songs that one won't play the other will so it sort of balances out but yeah idk WTF they are thinking w/ New York they are just asking for trouble with that one but L.A. needs a normal CHR because KISS as we all know leans rhythmic. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 19, 2009 16:38:54 GMT -5
CBS Radio has announced that KLSX - currently a Talk station - will become "ALL THE HITS, AMP 97.1" at 5PM on Friday 2/20. I think it's a movement equal to suicide. How can you launch a Top 40 station in a market that already has a dominant radio station that just so happens to have the face of pop culture at the moment... as its morning show? If you look at KIIS's playlist though, it's essentially Rhythmic (with a slight Pop lean), so there's def. plenty of room for a new CHR (i. e. tons of big CHR hits that have barely been played in L. A.) Surprised about New York though, cause Z100's basically got everything covered (and it's got two rhythmics...assumin a new station in NYC would be more rhythmic-leaning, but can't see how there'd be room for two Rhythmics, a Rhythmic-leaning CHR, and a CHR...plus gettin rid of 92.3 would eliminate Alternative and Active Rock completely from NYC radio) |
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Post by John77 on Feb 19, 2009 21:45:28 GMT -5
I think it's a movement equal to suicide. Not at all. As anyone who knows this market well can tell you, there's been a pretty big hole in the market for a truly mainstream leaning CHR for a very long time... it's worked before in this market and it can work again... Fact of the matter is that no one has even attempted to do CHR here since "Pirate Radio" exploded onto the scene in 1989... and if Scott Shannon had done made the right adjustments (i.e: go more rhythmic, not more rock) back in late 1989-thru 1991, he'd likely still be here and we might not be having this discussion at all. |
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Post by pc1978 on Feb 20, 2009 21:33:21 GMT -5
I've been listening to it so far. Sounds like another KIIS.
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Post by domuk on Feb 20, 2009 23:20:37 GMT -5
I'm really excited for this. KIIS is ok but it really is not a "real" CHR pop station. If this is intended to cover the same area as KIIS does this will do amazing. OC and West LA have been dying for something more mainstream.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 21, 2009 1:27:39 GMT -5
The fact that New York City has no alternative or active rock station is pathetic. I think 92.3 WXRK in its current state blows. If I was out of college and knew anything about the music industry, I'd try to start an actually good rock station in New York City, and see if it could be remotely competitive. I bet it could rival KROQ as the most important rock station in the country if done right.
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Post by tico on Feb 21, 2009 1:50:00 GMT -5
Does anyone have a sample hour of AMP 97.1?
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Post by John77 on Feb 21, 2009 2:48:28 GMT -5
I've been listening to it so far. Sounds like another KIIS. Yup... it's sadly one and the same at the moment. :( Here's a sample hour: Rihanna - Disturbia 20.02.2009 10:44 pm Kanye West - Paranoid 20.02.2009 10:48 pm M.I.A. - Paper Planes 20.02.2009 10:53pm Ginuwine - Pony 20.02.2009 10:57pm The Pussycat Dolls - I Hate This Part 20.02.2009 11:01pm E-40 - U And Dat (w/ T-Pain & Kandi Girl) 20.02.2009 11:05pm Britney Spears - Womanizer 20.02.2009 11:08pm Akon - I'm So Paid (w/ Lil Wayne) 20.02.2009 11:12pm Lady Gaga - Just Dance (w/ Colby O'Donis & Akon) 20.02.2009 11:15pm Eminem - Crack A Bottle (w/ 50 Cent & Dr. Dre) 20.02.2009 11:20pm Timbaland - Apologize (w/ OneRepublic) 20.02.2009 11:24pm Flo-Rida - Right Round (w/ Kesha) 20.02.2009 11:27pm T.I. - Dead And Gone (w/ Justin Timberlake) 20.02.2009 11:32pm Nelly Furtado - Promiscuous (w/ Timbaland) 20.02.2009 11:35pm Ne-Yo - Closer 20.02.2009 11:38pm |
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Post by mrcheezypop on Feb 21, 2009 3:24:09 GMT -5
Yes it's similar KIIS but in the span of an hour after that last posting they did play My Life Would Suck Without You, Poker Face, TOXIC (britney flashback!), Shake It - Metro Station.....yeah they threw in some Akon and such, but I think they hopefully will be a little bit more CHR than KIIS. They are playing 10,000 songs in a row right now commercial free, so we'll see once they really get goin.
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Post by John77 on Feb 21, 2009 3:29:06 GMT -5
^^ I wish I could share your confidence... but in their 7 hours + they have not really played any non-KIIS artist... no Nickelback, no Gavin DeGraw, no Matchbox 20... I sure hope something changes - this is B-O-R-I-N-G!
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 21, 2009 13:09:30 GMT -5
^^ I wish I could share your confidence... but in their 7 hours + they have not really played any non-KIIS artist... no Nickelback, no Gavin DeGraw, no Matchbox 20... I sure hope something changes - this is B-O-R-I-N-G! Just wonderin if they might start adding more pop/rock in a month or so after they get their station goin...maybe their plan is first to attract KIIS listeners (with less commercials) and then start mixin up the playlist a bit - weird IMO cause someone said their motto was "all the hits" Don't understand how L. A. could support three (essentially) Rhythmic stations (or two pop/rhythmic and one rhythmic I guess) |
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Post by musicfanpete on Feb 21, 2009 14:16:44 GMT -5
Just wonderin if they might start adding more pop/rock in a month or so after they get their station goin...maybe their plan is first to attract KIIS listeners (with less commercials) and then start mixin up the playlist a bit - weird IMO cause someone said their motto was "all the hits" Don't understand how L. A. could support three (essentially) Rhythmic stations (or two pop/rhythmic and one rhythmic I guess) Well when someone says they play "all the hits" they usually mean "all the hits that WE think are hits"! I very rarely have come across a station that uses that slogan that literally plays all the hits. Misleading? Very. But very common unfortunately. As for this new station sounding like a clone of KIIS, I'm very hopeful for the listeners of L.A. that this station does what you think it might and add more rock leaning songs in the coming months. I personally though don't know why they have to downright copy KIIS's playlist in order to attract KIIS listeners to their station. If the product is good and unique many KIIS listeners won't need any persuading. They will come and sample the new sound of CHR in L.A. But just copying their playlist won't give KIIS listeners any incentive to come and try out their station. When will these giant radio companies learn?!  |
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Post by John77 on Feb 21, 2009 14:39:05 GMT -5
Just wonderin if they might start adding more pop/rock in a month or so after they get their station goin...maybe their plan is first to attract KIIS listeners (with less commercials) and then start mixin up the playlist a bit - weird IMO cause someone said their motto was "all the hits" Don't understand how L. A. could support three (essentially) Rhythmic stations (or two pop/rhythmic and one rhythmic I guess) Well when someone says they play "all the hits" they usually mean "all the hits that WE think are hits"! I very rarely have come across a station that uses that slogan that literally plays all the hits. Misleading? Very. But very common unfortunately. As for this new station sounding like a clone of KIIS, I'm very hopeful for the listeners of L.A. that this station does what you think it might and add more rock leaning songs in the coming months. I personally though don't know why they have to downright copy KIIS's playlist in order to attract KIIS listeners to their station. If the product is good and unique many KIIS listeners won't need any persuading. They will come and sample the new sound of CHR in L.A. But just copying their playlist won't give KIIS listeners any incentive to come and try out their station. When will these giant radio companies learn?! You and I know the answer to that last question. Look up the title of one of Heart's biggest hits. ;) |
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Post by Marv on Feb 21, 2009 21:54:03 GMT -5
Actually, KKHH/Houston did the same thing when it was launched as a competitor to that behemoth known as KRBE last year, except that KKHH played a mountain of rhythmic/hip-hop stuff to differentiate themselves from KRBE, which had been known as the most female-friendly CHR/Pop station in existence.
I suspect that AMP 97.1 will play all of the CHR/Pop hits of recent vintage a lot while building cume, and for that reason it will unbdoubtedly sound quite a bit like KIIS for the time being, but continue to add songs (currents, recurrents & gold tunes) that KIIS has ignored for years.
Record label reps have been really ticked off that KIIS plays very little rock music from enormously popular hitmaking bands such as Hinder, Nickelback and Coldplay, so this station is certainly something that they have to be really excited about.
If it forces KIIS to widen their library, so much the better.
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Post by tico on Feb 21, 2009 22:10:17 GMT -5
I remember Q100 in Atlanta did the same thing. They sounded almost like a rhythmic CHR station at the first beginning, but eventually added rock songs to their playlist. From what I hear, Cumulus has turned them into crap as far as music goes. I believe AMP will get there as well.
BTW, who's idea was it to name the station AMP? Sounds like a name for a rock station.
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 22, 2009 10:32:53 GMT -5
I remember Q100 in Atlanta did the same thing. They sounded almost like a rhythmic CHR station at the first beginning, but eventually added rock songs to their playlist. From what I hear, Cumulus has turned them into crap as far as music goes. Q100 leans really Hot AC now (even more than Star 94 since they got a new PD) so weird that they started off playin all rhythmic... |
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Post by musicfanpete on Feb 22, 2009 13:04:03 GMT -5
I remember Q100 in Atlanta did the same thing. They sounded almost like a rhythmic CHR station at the first beginning, but eventually added rock songs to their playlist. From what I hear, Cumulus has turned them into crap as far as music goes. Q100 leans really Hot AC now (even more than Star 94 since they got a new PD) so weird that they started off playin all rhythmic... The problem here in Chicago is when Clear Channel's WKSC (Kiss 103.5) started five years ago, they started about two thirds rhythmic, and then leaned even more rhythmic since then. Unfortunately CBS will not be the one to start their own version of AMP here in Chicago since they already own rhythmic B-96. That's why WTMX remains my default "CHR" station since they sound a lot like Star 94 with half as many plays of their most active currents. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 22, 2009 19:49:47 GMT -5
^Yeah still think ur lucky though to have WTMX cause Star 94's become really repetitive since Jan. when the new PD took over (every time u turn it on seems like u hear Single Ladies, I'm Yours, Sober, or Love Story with really few recurrents) - completely different from the old Star 94 I used to love listenin to
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Post by musicfanpete on Feb 23, 2009 16:33:22 GMT -5
^Yeah still think ur lucky though to have WTMX cause Star 94's become really repetitive since Jan. when the new PD took over (every time u turn it on seems like u hear Single Ladies, I'm Yours, Sober, or Love Story with really few recurrents) - completely different from the old Star 94 I used to love listenin to I believe the most active currents on Star 94 are now being played over 100 times a week now! THAT is ridiculous for a station that still leans Hot AC and has a more adult leaning audience than your average CHR. Unless of course this new PD is planning on adding more rhythmic tracks to their playlist in the upcoming weeks. Then that move would make a little more sense. |
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Post by Sir Benji on Feb 24, 2009 10:42:02 GMT -5
Actually, KKHH/Houston did the same thing when it was launched as a competitor to that behemoth known as KRBE last year, except that KKHH played a mountain of rhythmic/hip-hop stuff to differentiate themselves from KRBE, which had been known as the most female-friendly CHR/Pop station in existence. I suspect that AMP 97.1 will play all of the CHR/Pop hits of recent vintage a lot while building cume, and for that reason it will unbdoubtedly sound quite a bit like KIIS for the time being, but continue to add songs (currents, recurrents & gold tunes) that KIIS has ignored for years. Record label reps have been really ticked off that KIIS plays very little rock music from enormously popular hitmaking bands such as Hinder, Nickelback and Coldplay, so this station is certainly something that they have to be really excited about. If it forces KIIS to widen their library, so much the better. Yep KKHH did do that i remeber they were on the rhythmic panel at first, and KRBE WAS a behemoth but not anymore every since they were bought by Cumulous in 2005 they've slowly but surely they have been turned into a boring, late adding songs, HAC-leaning mess! |
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Post by John77 on Feb 24, 2009 11:50:11 GMT -5
I suspect that AMP 97.1 will play all of the CHR/Pop hits of recent vintage a lot while building cume, and for that reason it will unbdoubtedly sound quite a bit like KIIS for the time being, but continue to add songs (currents, recurrents & gold tunes) that KIIS has ignored for years. Record label reps have been really ticked off that KIIS plays very little rock music from enormously popular hitmaking bands such as Hinder, Nickelback and Coldplay, so this station is certainly something that they have to be really excited about. If it forces KIIS to widen their library, so much the better. Anything that forces KIIS to widen their library is a good thing indeed. I haven't seen them add any tracks yet, but I've already noticed a subtle change in their dayparting of songs... two recurrent songs which weren't getting any spins after 3pm - Jordin Sparks' "Tattoo" and Mariah Carey's "Don't Forget About Us" both showed up between 10pm and midnight last night. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 24, 2009 16:20:54 GMT -5
^Yeah still think ur lucky though to have WTMX cause Star 94's become really repetitive since Jan. when the new PD took over (every time u turn it on seems like u hear Single Ladies, I'm Yours, Sober, or Love Story with really few recurrents) - completely different from the old Star 94 I used to love listenin to I believe the most active currents on Star 94 are now being played over 100 times a week now! THAT is ridiculous for a station that still leans Hot AC and has a more adult leaning audience than your average CHR. Unless of course this new PD is planning on adding more rhythmic tracks to their playlist in the upcoming weeks. Then that move would make a little more sense. Yeah the new PD's basically created another WAPE (where he was from) without rap...it's def. targeting teens as well as adults cause of the really tight playlist and constant promos for Britney, Lady GaGa, Pink, Beyonce, etc. Still plays Come On Get Higher and Angels On The Moon, but that's about as far as the variety goes since that stoopid new PD took over |
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Post by tico on Feb 24, 2009 22:02:18 GMT -5
Star has been moving towards opening up their playlist (read: lean younger) for quite some time. With Steve & Vicki no longer doing mornings there and the new PD in place, it's opening up even wider.
Also, they are playing their powers near and even over 100 times a week. "I'm Yours" is at 101 spins. "You Found Me" and "Love Story" is at 97.
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 25, 2009 16:53:30 GMT -5
Star has been moving towards opening up their playlist (read: lean younger) for quite some time. With Steve & Vicki no longer doing mornings there and the new PD in place, it's opening up even wider. Only thing is they've been tightening their playlist big time (i. e. very few recurrents from a much smaller "library") - and don't see much opening up of playlist (i. e. adding more rhythmic songs) that they wouldn't have played before - just much more repetition IMO BTW that 100 plays a week thing includes a pretty long afternoon talk show, so figure it's the equivalent of the 110+ plays/week songs get on WAPE - sorry just really don't like the new PD >:( |
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Post by tico on Feb 26, 2009 19:47:46 GMT -5
What I meant about opening it up even wider was the variety of the kind of music they play. As you know, for a long time, Star was very conservative about what they played. Over the last few years, they had gradually starting playing more rhythmic and light urban music. Kanye West is on their playlist and just a few years ago, that wouldn't have happened. I don't think Star will play Lil Wayne anytime soon, though.
Since this thread is about Amp, have they started diversifying their playlist?
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so yeah we needed a CHR that would play "fresher"/newer music hence why it's a rhythmic leaning chr they play too much Hot AC material and not enough Pop songs but i listen to both and it's a nice bakance the songs that one won't play the other will so it sort of balances out but yeah idk WTF they are thinking w/ New York they are just asking for trouble with that one but L.A. needs a normal CHR because KISS as we all know leans rhythmic.