The Toadies - Song I Hate

[pen]

Goes for adds on March 30th as the second single from No Deliverance.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of this band and I thought that Vaden's post-Toadies band, Burden Brothers, was a lot better. Anyway, I can't remember if this was a good choice or not cause nothing on the album struck me as being that memorable. I doubt this'll do anything though. The Toadies seem to me like a band that almost nobody was really waiting for a reunion from.

[Cody]

I didnt even make it past the first 30 seconds of "No Deliverance" it was just that boring

[pen]

I feel like it was almost deliberate, to like say to the fans "Here, see, this is what we make when we're reunited, isn't it awful?"

[American Idiot]

I remember checking out "No Deliverance" (song) and not getting through the entire song either. I'm not a huge fan of them but would like to see them have some decent success. "Possum Kingdom" still has to be one of the most played songs that wasn't from a huge 90s band on the airwaves today and I find it strange that nothing else of theirs ever really took off. Then again, I have no idea what most of their other stuff sounds like.

[pen]

Feb 28, 2009 1:26:03 GMT -5 American Idiot said:

I remember checking out "No Deliverance" (song) and not getting through the entire song either. I'm not a huge fan of them but would like to see them have some decent success. "Possum Kingdom" still has to be one of the most played songs that wasn't from a huge 90s band on the airwaves today and I find it strange that nothing else of theirs ever really took off. Then again, I have no idea what most of their other stuff sounds like.

I hate to bust your chops, but if you don't know what the other stuff sounds like and the only other song you heard from them you didn't like, why do you wish them success? I mean, no one should wish them failure, exactly, but still.

[halo19]

Song title reminds me of "Disappearer" from Sonic Youth.

[American Idiot]

Feb 28, 2009 1:31:00 GMT -5 pen said:

Feb 28, 2009 1:26:03 GMT -5 American Idiot said:

I remember checking out "No Deliverance" (song) and not getting through the entire song either. I'm not a huge fan of them but would like to see them have some decent success. "Possum Kingdom" still has to be one of the most played songs that wasn't from a huge 90s band on the airwaves today and I find it strange that nothing else of theirs ever really took off. Then again, I have no idea what most of their other stuff sounds like.

I hate to bust your chops, but if you don't know what the other stuff sounds like and the only other song you heard from them you didn't like, why do you wish them success? I mean, no one should wish them failure, exactly, but still.

Cause they're basically a one hit wonder and apparently are still trying today to gain that popularity back. Even if I think a certain band completely blows, I still have to give them tons of credit for continuing to trying to gain a hit again after failing for over a decade.

[Nicholas2.0]

Feb 28, 2009 1:43:57 GMT -5 halo19 said:

Song title reminds me of "Disappearer" from Sonic Youth.

Are you sure you don't mean "Youth Against Fascism"?

Feb 27, 2009 15:33:54 GMT -5 pen said:

The Toadies seem to me like a band that almost nobody was really waiting for a reunion from.

Wow, I can't believe that. I never was a fan enough to buy Rubberneck, but it seems like every one of my friends loved them and owned it in junior high and have been delighted when they finally put out Hell Above/Stars Below and then No Deliverance. They played St. Louis last year and sold 1,500+ tickets and are coming back to the same venue this spring.

Even new friends I've made (a couple of them 2-3 years younger than me, like you are) in the past few years, plus my former boss (who's 31 now) were all over that show last year. That was probably the one show at that venue where I saw the most of my friends turn up. One of those friends even brought probably a half dozen of her friends and family.

And for the record, I thought the song "No Deliverance" was top notch, as far as that band goes.

[pen]

Feb 28, 2009 2:51:10 GMT -5 American Idiot said:

I still have to give them tons of credit for continuing to trying to gain a hit again after failing for over a decade.

That would make an awesome byline. "Trying And Failing For Over A Decade".

I was only asking because the way I read it it sounded like you were saying "This band deserves success on the basis of one lone hit single made over a decade ago even though I've never heard anything else from them." It didn't really sound right, as I'm sure you might expect.

Feb 28, 2009 2:55:07 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Wow, I can't believe that. I never was a fan enough to buy Rubberneck, but it seems like every one of my friends loved them and owned it in junior high and have been delighted when they finally put out Hell Above/Stars Below and then No Deliverance. They played St. Louis last year and sold 1,500+ tickets and are coming back to the same venue this spring.

Even new friends I've made (a couple of them 2-3 years younger than me, like you are) in the past few years, plus my former boss (who's 31 now) were all over that show last year. That was probably the one show at that venue where I saw the most of my friends turn up. One of those friends even brought probably a half dozen of her friends and family.

And for the record, I thought the song "No Deliverance" was top notch, as far as that band goes.

Yes, but you and I come from two different worlds, Nick.

No, really, I can understand that obviously some people wanted a Toadies reunion, I'm just saying based on how I feel. When people talk about great bands on the 90s, I can't really remember how many times I've ever heard anyone mention The Toadies. And since I wasn't able to get into them, (shrugs).

Me, I would rather have a third Burden Brothers album.

[American Idiot]

Feb 28, 2009 4:45:03 GMT -5 pen said:

Feb 28, 2009 2:51:10 GMT -5 American Idiot said:

I still have to give them tons of credit for continuing to trying to gain a hit again after failing for over a decade.

That would make an awesome byline. "Trying And Failing For Over A Decade".

That just made me LOL. I would love if some band in a similar situation put that as their album title in the future. That would indeed be awesome.

[WotUNeed]

I loved "Possum Kingdom" enough to buy Rubberneck, but very little else on the album stood out to me. I'd be happy for them if they managed another big hit with their reunion material, but I can't say I don't understand why it hasn't happened yet, and why it didn't happen with their older stuff. Still, "Possum Kingdom" is enough for me to passively support them.

[American Idiot]

And now I've heard this song. I think it's better than "No Deliverance" but still doesn't do much for me...

[halo19]

Feb 28, 2009 2:55:07 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Feb 28, 2009 1:43:57 GMT -5 halo19 said:

Song title reminds me of "Disappearer" from Sonic Youth.

Are you sure you don't mean "Youth Against Fascism"?

I guess that even though I've had an SY kick, I've never really owned or heard the entirety of Goo. Enough that I still sometimes get wrong titles, unless I'm listening to the song at the time or something.

[Nicholas2.0]

Feb 28, 2009 12:47:17 GMT -5 WotUNeed said:

I loved "Possum Kingdom" enough to buy Rubberneck, but very little else on the album stood out to me. I can't say I don't understand why [they never had another hit] with their older stuff.

I haven't listened to Rubberneck enough to know the album cuts, but all the singles kicked so much ass. (Though I wasn't very familiar with a couple of them until years later, from local "gold" airplay. Ironically, those two weren't the beneficiaries of local "current" airplay... )

I burned out on "Possum Kingdom" years ago and to this day, have little interest in ever listening to all 5 minutes of it anymore on the radio. Apparently, though, KPNT was, as far as I can tell now, the only station that played "I Come From the Water" as its follow-up single. As huge of a hit as it was, I just assumed it was the second single. Apparently only "Away" and "Tyler" received nationwide single status after "Possum Kingdom." And both those songs, especially "Tyler," are tremendous.

Feb 28, 2009 23:31:05 GMT -5 halo19 said:

I guess that even though I've had an SY kick, I've never really owned or heard the entirety of Goo. Enough that I still sometimes get wrong titles, unless I'm listening to the song at the time or something.

Well, hmm...It looks like the same thing must apply to Dirty, then, too, because that's the album "Youth Against Fascism" (with the "It's the song I hate" refrain) appears on.

[halo19]

OK, I have that one and the fact refreshes me, though I've listened at "nfe" level, on the whole.

Daydream Nation, Experimental and Washing Machine are the ones that I know most of the tracks pretty well and by title. (Rarely listened to Sister, too, and wasn't that fond of Bad Moon Rising.)