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Post by musiclives on Sept 21, 2007 17:28:42 GMT -5
Yeah I don't think payola was involved at all!
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Sept 21, 2007 17:36:24 GMT -5
I think it was, at least for UUH. WK probably was successful cause its a it came off a hit. BUT I definitely think UUH was pushed a lil cause it almost flopped like her last few singles but it turned around just b4 it flopped.. BMG was behind this single so Im sure they pushed the song, then once it was heard it did its thing.. Im sure the JT tour helped too.
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Post by dperkins on Sept 21, 2007 17:36:59 GMT -5
Payola doesn't make you top the callouts. ;) Honestly, I don't care what she releases next. I actually DMP could get her the most album sales. Even if radios DON'T play it, it will generate so much buzz. It could help her album sales out tremendously. Think about all the people that bought the Dixie Chicks' albums just to break em!
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Sept 21, 2007 17:39:05 GMT -5
Payola doesn't make you top the callouts. ;) Very true.. I just think they helped get the song out there cause they were confident it was hit material and then when people heard it they fell in love.
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Post by dperkins on Sept 21, 2007 17:42:04 GMT -5
Yeah, i could see them giving it a push since it was about to fall down the charts. But either way, if payola is used it doesn't really matter. What matters is if they invested the payola well. If a label payolas a song and it does nothing for sales, then they really wasted their time. U + Ur Hand went Top 10 and brought the album back to life. Had they done more than an Ellen & Jimmy Kimmel show, her album might have sold more during that time. So, even if it was payola'ed, it was worth it. They sold more albums and sold a lot of UUH. :)
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Sept 21, 2007 17:43:55 GMT -5
Yeah, i could see them giving it a push since it was about to fall down the charts. But either way, if payola is used it doesn't really matter. What matters is if they invested the payola well. If a label payolas a song and it does nothing for sales, then they really wasted their time. U + Ur Hand went Top 10 and brought the album back to life. Had they done more than an Ellen & Jimmy Kimmel show, her album might have sold more during that time. So, even if it was payola'ed, it was worth it. They sold more albums and sold a lot of UUH. :) Oh I agree 100%! It was def a hit waiting to happen and thats what they wanted to prove to P!nk. :) Im glad they released it! One of my favorite tracks from IND! :)
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Post by eljefro on Sept 21, 2007 18:17:31 GMT -5
I think BMG had renewed interest in her after the new boss took over at Jive. UUH was definitely saved before it dropped too far but then it just went along on its own and CD sales also just kept increasing until she landed back in the Top 40...
WK is a great song that when it got a second chance...people finally saw that...
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Post by justfloating on Sept 21, 2007 18:39:55 GMT -5
There's also something called promo that goes on behind the scenes to get the songs heard and played by radio that does not consist of paying them to play a song.
Sometimes a great song just needs to be heard not paid to be heard. I think the whole payola thing has been blown out of proportion for everything. If it existed to the extent some people are suggesting, there would definately be some law suits and other legal disputes.
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Post by dperkins on Sept 21, 2007 18:42:49 GMT -5
Yeah. Thats true, Debbie. Well, either way, it was still given a push. Whether it was a promotional push or whatever. However, it was a VERY smart move by the label. :)
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Sept 21, 2007 19:04:36 GMT -5
What was the peak audience impressions for "U + Ur Hand"? This is at 75.
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Post by dperkins on Sept 21, 2007 19:10:11 GMT -5
This can be locked now. :) kthx
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Sept 21, 2007 20:04:51 GMT -5
There's also something called promo that goes on behind the scenes to get the songs heard and played by radio that does not consist of paying them to play a song. Sometimes a great song just needs to be heard not paid to be heard. I think the whole payola thing has been blown out of proportion for everything. If it existed to the extent some people are suggesting, there would definately be some law suits and other legal disputes. Did you ever read about the whole payola situation a few years back!? I remember Mariah Carey being involved.
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Post by ~ M-Dolla ¤ on Sept 21, 2007 20:05:36 GMT -5
Yeah. Thats true, Debbie. Well, either way, it was still given a push. Whether it was a promotional push or whatever. However, it was a VERY smart move by the label. :) It was.. plus they didnt want their choice to flop. ;) But yes Im glad they supported it. UUH deserved to be a hit, same with WK!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 21, 2007 20:25:39 GMT -5
Payola doesn't make you top the callouts. ;) Nope but payola can get you noticed enough for people to help it top the callouts! Think about it. UUH almost flopped and even had a -100 or something before suddenly taking off. After it started to take off, then callout happened. I think most payola that does happen (I don't know how common it is or how often it happens and I'm not even saying Pink received any) probably happens in the beginning stages of a song's life because that's really the most important period of a single's chart career. If it gets noticed, the work is done. If not, it gets lost in the shuffle.
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