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Post by Crushcrushchris on Mar 12, 2009 19:58:12 GMT -5
Going for adds next month, it's the first single off of Evans Blue.
It marks their first album outside of a major label and the debut of new lead singer Dan Chandler. Kevin Matisyn left the band on not-so-good terms.
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Post by pen on Mar 12, 2009 21:31:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd say leaking all the demos they did for the album to be pretty not-so-good terms, although those demos sucked anyway, so it's not a huge loss. I'm still interested to hear Matisyn's future projects though, cause the guy writes such good lyrics and is a pretty decent vocalist.
As for this I'm curious as to how they'll sound now with the vocalist change. I hope not too different, but you never know.
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Post by pen on Mar 13, 2009 16:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 13, 2009 16:29:29 GMT -5
Two thumbs way down...
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Post by PHOBES on Mar 13, 2009 16:59:50 GMT -5
Not bad, I like him more than Matisyn already. Maybe not lyrically, but vocally.
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Post by pen on Mar 13, 2009 17:20:25 GMT -5
Meh. Matisyn may not have been the best vocalist, but he sounded different than anyone else, which to me is a lot more appealing.
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Post by PHOBES on Mar 13, 2009 22:54:19 GMT -5
I tend to appreciate Matisyn's voice more when he sings live. He often sounds like a distant voice in the midst of overbearing guitars and drums in the studio recordings.
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Post by pen on Mar 13, 2009 23:20:07 GMT -5
I disagree, but I respect your opinion.
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Post by American Idiot on Mar 14, 2009 1:34:46 GMT -5
I really didn't notice much of a difference between vocalists, but it's hard to just by a short clip and I'm also half asleep at the moment. I think it sounds good, but I really need to hear the entire song and others really to make a real judgement.
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Post by Young Money on Mar 14, 2009 13:17:32 GMT -5
Is there a demo with the original singer? I have both of their past CDs...and I want this to be good
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Post by pen on Mar 14, 2009 15:49:26 GMT -5
No, there's no demo with the original singer. I'm pretty sure that all those demos were scrapped.
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Post by 3t7k on Mar 16, 2009 11:26:59 GMT -5
i think that dan chandler is a gazillion times better and more fitting than matisyn who is fraud in my opinion -- having spent a bit of time around him i will say that yes his lyrics are deep -- but HE is as deep as a mud puddle hence the fake name [ kevin clarkson ]
i did some time on the road with them he sucked live consistently and was a real prick to deal with
i hope that they have massive success with chandler
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Post by pen on Mar 18, 2009 17:34:37 GMT -5
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Post by 3t7k on Mar 18, 2009 18:42:06 GMT -5
just listened to parabelle and it sucks out of tune vocals and gtr's - will never get mainstream airplay -- no airplay market for this at all -- matisyns only base was at active rock and they sure as hell won't play this cuz it is tired emo -- "sick of it" will be a hit at active by summer from what i am hearing radio is jumping on it early these days if you want a hit you have to write a simple song - image was a big factor that held eb back in my opinion as well
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Post by pen on Mar 18, 2009 19:10:40 GMT -5
Alright, well, I don't know you, and I don't know why you have such a hard-on against Matisyn, but while you're right about what it takes to write a hit nowadays, that doesn't mean that's a good thing, and it doesn't mean it makes for good music. Image wasn't really something that held EB back, what held them back was that they sounded a lot like every other rock band at the time, and now the one thing that set them apart is gone. Congratulations, Evans Blue, you've watered yourself down. I hope they enjoy "success".
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Post by 3t7k on Mar 18, 2009 19:23:38 GMT -5
well -- i spent some time on the road with them and lets just say that he is not fun to be around,i don't think the evans new single will change the world but its the most radio friendly single from the band yet, and yes, image held them back from a lot of exposure from what i heard. i don't make the rules but i know the game . my gut tells me evans blue have an active rock and maybe even modern top 5- i will be stunned if anyone plays parabelle its just not broadcast quality , very sloppy recordings, not to mention completely abandoning his active rock only base, from the 3 songs that you posted, have another listen and tell me that those vocals and guitars are not out of tune, quite bad in spots. the songs are ok ,nothing great and i am sure it will satisfy his die hard fans lyrically,aside from that it sounds like a bargain basement recording
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Post by pen on Mar 18, 2009 19:26:24 GMT -5
If this song makes the Top 5 on either format, then I have seriously misjudged the state of music in America. Matisyn probably wasn't fun to be around, and I'm sorry for that, but he knew how to write, and this is a bad song. Music shouldn't be about trying to write hits, music should be about writing things that inspire people. Matisyn did that. This song doesn't. I really hope the rest of the album has better stuff on it. Meanwhile, I will be looking forward to Parabelle, because maybe it's not radio-friendly, but it's music I like. And honestly, I think you're letting your dislike of Matisyn blind you to the music, because most of what you're saying, I don't hear.
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Post by pen on Mar 18, 2009 19:28:05 GMT -5
To be honest, you come off as somebody who's just bitter. I don't know what Matisyn did to piss you off this badly, I do know he himself said he was an asshole, but really, I find it hard to value your opinion objectively.
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Post by 3t7k on Mar 18, 2009 19:34:47 GMT -5
i bet my experience trumps your gay love for kevin
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Post by pen on Mar 18, 2009 19:37:59 GMT -5
i bet my experience trumps your gay love for kevin I bet my vocabulary trumps your bottomless hatred.
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Post by 3t7k on Mar 18, 2009 19:39:50 GMT -5
i bet you have no experience , you come off as a kid that doesn't know his asshole from his elbow have you ever listened to mainstream radio ever heard of hinder,buckcherry,umm nickelbackthey suck but sold millions,this is the music BUSINESS,commerce is king , you should read a book about it and learn something because you sound like an idiot
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Post by 3t7k on Mar 18, 2009 19:41:31 GMT -5
btw i love the first eb album,second one sucks, WHY ? bad songs for the radio thats why it sold way less than half of the first one --GROW UP KID
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Post by pen on Mar 18, 2009 19:43:39 GMT -5
i bet you have no experience , you come off as a kid that doesn't know his asshole from his elbow have you ever listened to mainstream radio ever heard of hinder,buckcherry,umm nickelbackthey suck but sold millions,this is the music BUSINESS,commerce is king , you should read a book about it and learn something because you sound like an idiot I'm not the one who's getting bent of shape because someone doesn't like their album. Are you in Evans Blue? Because that's the only reason I can see for you getting so agitated like this. I'm sorry this is that important of an issue to you. I think you really need to settle down. I don't like Hinder. I like Buckcherry sometimes and I like old Nickelback more than new, and yeah, they did sell millions, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about something a little more personal. Music isn't about what sells, it's about what means something to someone, at least if you're looking at it from the right direction. I guess you're looking at it from the profit end of the scale. That's fine. Some bands are in it for the money and I understand that. Others are in it for better reasons.
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Post by 3t7k on Mar 18, 2009 19:53:23 GMT -5
thats funny,ithanks but i am easily old enough to their parent,this is a business ,and btw you started the bashing its what kids like you get off on with these boards,its only music and people tying to make al iving, i have been in this business likely longer than you have been alive
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Post by pen on Mar 18, 2009 20:32:42 GMT -5
Yeah, how dare I, right? The point is that I wasn't bashing you, I was, if I was bashing anyone, bashing the band. You're the one who chose to take it personally. And it's not only music. If it was only music, then what's the point of it? There's music that people enjoy just to enjoy, and there's music that affects people profoundly. I'm a fan of both. I don't feel this appeals to either. The lyrics are trite, the song is generic. And I guess you're gone now, but I still find it strange that you really took all this so personally. Maybe you are one of their parents.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 19, 2009 0:17:03 GMT -5
That's funny. The second album was the only thing I liked by them. The first album was ehh and this song completely blows.
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Post by Sox5452 on Mar 27, 2009 1:05:09 GMT -5
I liked the second album the most too. But his reasoning why the second album sucked is that it just had bad radio songs. I guess in that case you just have to disregard a brilliant song like "Painted."
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Post by pen on Mar 27, 2009 1:11:48 GMT -5
But his reasoning why the second album sucked is that it just had bad radio songs. Translation: It didn't make us any money, we want money, who cares about art?
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Post by pen on May 6, 2009 11:07:21 GMT -5
Oh hai, could it be that this song is failing to chart? But that's unpossible!
But seriously, does anyone know if this is even climbing anywhere? I'm still angry about this, I've never held a grudge before, but I want to savor this one.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 6, 2009 11:54:03 GMT -5
It was in the top 50 at active rock just the other day. But it appears that it has already fallen off. I wouldn't be surprised if it re-enters, but I don't see this song doing any better than "Shine Your Cadillac" did which was just scraping the top 50.
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