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Post by pen on May 6, 2009 11:59:04 GMT -5
Looks like good won over evil after all.
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Post by PHOBES on May 6, 2009 12:13:20 GMT -5
Looks like good won over evil after all. Are you implying that Matisyn is "good guy" in this little skirmish? I'd like to hear you rationalize that.
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Post by pen on May 6, 2009 12:27:35 GMT -5
Looks like good won over evil after all. Are you implying that Matisyn is "good guy" in this little skirmish? I'd like to hear you rationalize that. I'm implying that I'm the good guy. I don't know, I could be evil.
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Post by pen on May 6, 2009 12:27:50 GMT -5
You have to read the entire thread.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 7, 2009 2:23:57 GMT -5
Oh hai, could it be that this song is failing to chart? But that's unpossible! Me fail English? That's unpossible! [/Ralph Wiggum]
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 28, 2009 23:59:17 GMT -5
Top 50 on Mediabase Active
56 50 EVANS BLUE Sick Of It 111 104 7 0.629
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Post by Matt4319 on Jun 29, 2009 0:50:02 GMT -5
flop
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 29, 2009 0:52:41 GMT -5
Yep. This band is nothing without KM. I 100% side with KM. Just by hearing both sides it's clear KM was wronged.
I have all the blogs KM put up on his myspace after the breakup. It's clear he was wronged. KM is having the last laugh. I allready preordered the new Parabelle album. The lyrics are way more deep then that chandler crap.
KM has one of the best voices in all of rock...(Not on the level of the brilliant MJK or Trent Reznor or Serj Tekian or David Dramain) but KM is up there with the great's.
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Post by Young Money on Jun 29, 2009 14:44:51 GMT -5
Glad they flopped. KM was much, much better.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 29, 2009 15:02:02 GMT -5
I'm so glad they flopped. I bet they are regretting kicking him out. Parabelle's album comes out the 7th so i'm excited for that.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jun 29, 2009 16:39:28 GMT -5
I bet they are regretting kicking him out. Let's not get ahead of ourselves or assume too much about the band members feelings.
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Post by Young Money on Jun 29, 2009 16:42:58 GMT -5
I'm so glad they flopped. I bet they are regretting kicking him out. Parabelle's album comes out the 7th so i'm excited for that. Yeah, hopefully that is good. :)
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Post by pen on Jun 29, 2009 20:42:38 GMT -5
I bet they are regretting kicking him out. Let's not get ahead of ourselves or assume too much about the band members feelings. They'll live to regret it.
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Post by Young Money on Jun 29, 2009 21:13:41 GMT -5
And they should. Big, big mistake.
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Post by Gravity on Jun 29, 2009 23:32:12 GMT -5
Yeah gee, why kick out a guy when I'm sure the chemistry of the band won't be affected by the obvious personal differences.
Seriously guys, you ever think that Matisyn is gone for personal reasons instead of musical ones?
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 30, 2009 0:02:24 GMT -5
Yeah gee, why kick out a guy when I'm sure the chemistry of the band won't be affected by the obvious personal differences. Seriously guys, you ever think that Matisyn is gone for personal reasons instead of musical ones? Yeah. It was personal reasons. So? I have read KM's side of the story and trust me he doesnt try to come off like he was a saint. Still what he did was nothing that warrents getting kicked out. Also...the band tried to come off like it was musical but it wasnt. Kevin called them out on it. I have all of the blogs between EB and KM when the break up first happened. Here's a sample... Here's what kevin responded with... I side with KM.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 30, 2009 0:54:36 GMT -5
I don't.
It's obvious he was messed up, but with the ultimatum he gave, "Him or Me," it's hard to show much sympathy over him getting kicked out. I'm sorry for all he went through, but I have no respect for anyone who thinks they are above the rest of the band. That they are somehow more vital than the other pieces. Even if it's true, it's still pretty low to act that way.
Not to say Lauzon was right to make fun of him, but he does have a point. Matisyn's little "woe is me" pity party is disgraceful. Be a man, anyone who would even consider taking their own life is the epitome of a wuss. He made mistakes, and he had to pay for them.
"Oh, I dated two women at once and cheated on them both with even more women. What to do? Well, looks like I'm gonna take 100 pills and hang myself in my hotel room."
Coward.
I'm still not taking a side though. Lauzon was wrong, Matisyn was wrong, the label was wrong, I'm sure I could keep going. Hopefully, they all come out of this better. And hopefully Kevin gets his life back under control and both acts can be somewhat successful. I don't see the logic in people downing Evans Blue for getting rid of the suicidal singer. Think about it, is that really the type of person you want representing you?
I'm sure I'm gonna get flack for this, but whatever.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 30, 2009 1:34:55 GMT -5
Musically I side with KM because clearly he was in it for the right reason. He wanted to write honest music rather than what he was being told to write about. Based on the new Evans Blue, it's clear they were just interested in being famous, and writing music that is completely devoid of a human at the heart of it. That said, if a band isn't a group of good friends, they're not going to last anyway. I like the fact that Kevin was honest. At the same time, I don't blame the band for kicking him out if he wasn't a good friend of theirs to begin with.
That said, their music has no sense of urgency or identity without him. He was the only thing that made them a real band rather than just an assembly line factory-made packaged alt/metal post-grunge band.
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Post by pen on Jun 30, 2009 7:14:44 GMT -5
I think...it is really hard to know who is right. Matisyn seems to understand he had issues and was doing a lot of wrong things in the wrong way, and I don't particularly blame the band for wanting to distance themselves from it, and I don't particularly blame Matisyn for feeling the way he did about himself or the band. And I don't think it's really fair to label him a "coward" or a "wuss", because if you've never been in the same situation, you really have no idea how you're going to react.
I will just say that when certain events hit you in the right way, if you are a certain type of person, it is very easy to travel to a dark dark place mentally and sort of "give up", for lack of a better term. I'm not going to endorse Matisyn's cheating because obviously that was wrong and he realizes that, but he made a huge mistake and he suffered the consequences, which turned out to be the loss of people he trusted. Losing that support system can be a devastating thing, especially when you are surrounded with decidedly untrustworthy people that just make you feel worse and offer very little to ease the burden. I'm not saying it was their job to do that, because it wasn't and shouldn't have been, but, well, sometimes it's just good to know that people care and understand about what you're doing through. I get the sense that Matisyn didn't have that.
I'll also say that Scooter Ward from Cold confessed to going through a similar time prior to A Different Kind Of Pain, again because events hit him in the right way. Life is a big bumpy road. And you can try to act as tough as you want, but sometimes things just happen too fast and you find yourself off balance and unable to cope. I won't say it can happen to anyone cause I think some people are just built of hardier stock than others, but I think anyone can be pushed to a breaking point. For some people it comes faster than others.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 30, 2009 14:59:31 GMT -5
Yeah Pen, I can't wait for the killer and the star album (already preordered it) and the new cold album whenever it comes out. Parabelle album on the 7th and the killer and the star on the 14th. That said, if a band isn't a group of good friends, they're not going to last anyway. That's a real good point since the original members of Evans Blue all met through a local musicians message board. So I don't think it's fair to say kevin wasnt friends with the rest of the band i think it was both way's.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 8, 2009 18:41:19 GMT -5
I just listened to the new album for the first time. Sure, it's a bit different than Matisyn's vocals, but I have to give Dan Chandler a lot of credit here because there are some very very solid tracks on it. This is MUCH better than I expected.
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