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Post by LordEctar on Oct 14, 2007 21:51:07 GMT -5
I think Madonna and her True Blue album should be on this list too, right? Papa Don't Preach True Blue Causing A Commotion Open Your Heart La Isla Bonita As already mentioned that isn't more than 5... however I'd point out that: Causing A Commotion was on the "Who's That Girl" soundtrack, not "True Blue". You forgot Live To Tell. It was on a soundtrack as well (or at least it was used in a movie when looking at the video) but was still on the True Blue album.
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Post by Juanca on Oct 15, 2007 0:45:04 GMT -5
About my MADDY QUEEN (ejem!): Firstly, the things I know: * Live to Tell was included in the soundtrack of At Close Range, a movie that was starred by her husband Sean Penn. Its entire chart run predated the release of True Blue. The song that was considered her first album single was Papa Don't Preach, then came True Blue, Open Your Heart and La Isla Bonita. However, as LTT was included in the album, it is of course a single from that album... Similar case to Die Another Day (first released in the James Bond soundtrack but then included in the American Life album). I thought she could have released White Heat as a single. That song was another great song in the album.
* I think that, compared to Jackson's albums, for example, Madonna's have been shorter: LAV and TB with 9 songs, LAP with 11 (including the very short Act of Contriction)... even RoL and Music had fewer songs that the average released in modern times, so it's more difficult. Besides, in the 80s and 90s she had lots of different projects and singles...
That brings me to questions: + Which were the 5 LAV singles in Pop radio??? I know Hot100 stats, but don't know of Pop things (which would be GREAT to know). Hot100 were: Like a Virgin, Material Girl, Angel and Dress You Up. Are you including Into the Groove in the list??? Because, that song was included in the Desperately Seeking Susan soundtrack but NOT in the LAV track list, as issued in the Americas (North, Central and South). I know the European version included it, but in the US it was not available in the LAV album and was not released as a physical single, WHICH WAS A COMPLETE NONSENSE from her label, and that is why it has been probably the BEST non-released track of the 80s, not having charted in the Hot100, being one of the hottest dance hits of the decade and her first UK #1 (it could easily have been another #1 for her). The only way to get it, was the 7" version as a B-side of the Angel single, which in fact helped the chartrun of Angel. But, well, back to the question. If ITG was not the other single of LAV in Pop, which other was? Over and Over? Love Don't Live Here Anymore?
And finally, comments: + I thought LAP might have had more Pop singles than Hot100 singles... Besides LAP, EY, Cherish, Oh Father and KIT, I thought Dear Jessie was released as it was a single in Europe and even had a cute videoclip.... To me, that is the sweetest song M has ever recorded. Other personal favorite was 'Til Death Do Us Part, a chart topper in my personal chart for several weeks. It was also a single in Peru and went Top10. + It's a SHAME that Ray Of Light was not that successful... it was a great album and it only had a #2 (Frozen) and #5 (RoL) single, besides a #11 (TPOG) in the Hot100 !!!! As Billboard said when Frozen was just released, this trilogy was M's best ever, tied with LAP's. I agree! I thought Drowned World/Substitute for Love had been released to US, too... it had a good video, good lyrics/vocals and was a UK single... And, as strange as it seems, I heard Candy Perfume Girl in a modern-rock chart countdown show that was broadcasted in a Peruvian radio, but it was produced in an American radio, and with charts related to Modern rock tracks in US, and yeah! they included CPG as an Extra track, with a surprised DJ, but he gave quite good credit to the song as a whole, lyric and music-wise. I agree with Sky Fits Heaven as another great track, but it would have flopped big time in the US, not ready for that sound... + I think M could have had also 5 singles from the Bedtime Stories era: Secret, TaB, Human Nature, Bedtime Story... and another one! Inside of Me is a personal favorite, but Survival or another ballad could have worked... But I supposed that the lack of success of HN and BS were against another single, too
I just hope next album could have AT LEAST 3 Top40 singles, since the last one (oops!) kind of flopped in the US (S_H_A_M_E!!!!)
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Post by Juanca on Oct 15, 2007 2:08:25 GMT -5
I thought that rerelease was only international To the best of my knowledge, that was only international. BUT since WGIGO was released in 1995 and they didn't hit big until QPG in 1997...I think it still warrants some debate. Hmmmmmmmmm... To my knowledge, the story told here is NOT accurate. The fact was the INVERSE!! :o Yeah, US had it lat(m)e Thing is that the first album released by the BSB was in fact Backstreet Boys. It took some time to get success, but eventually it DID, especially in Europe and then Latin America, in 1996, with BIG dance club hits like 'We've Got It Goin' On', Get Down (You're the One for Me), with a kind of fever compared to the New Kids back in the 80s (at least in Latin America, where Take That were never that big), so you could see young kids dancing to the beat of BSB. Despite that fact, BSB in US FLOPPPED big time!! No place to see their songs in the charts!! Meanwhile, they kept scoring hits with I'll Never Break your Heart and Quit Playing Games (with my Heart), all from that initial first album. Then, they decided to give it another try in US, while producing their second international album "Backstreet's Back", which lead single was 'Everybody [Backstreet's Back]'. In the US, fortunately QPG did the trick, and it was their first US hit. That's why they decided to do a paralell release. Internationally, they released ... Back with the new singles Everybody, ASAYLM, AIHTG, etc, but in the US, they released the US version of Backstreet Boys, which mixed the hit singles of the initial BSB with the best songs of ...Back. To me, the thing is that it is still a weird case, since WGIGO was a 1996 song, but after that all the other singles belonged to the BSB-US version, so at least they scored 5 hits from that project and one that is partially from that project.... Hope it's a bit clearer....
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 16, 2007 9:25:02 GMT -5
Are u sure that "Animal" by Def Leppard (weird that the titles are almost the same) would've charted in the Pop Top 40 in the 80s if Alternative had been around back then? Yeah, pretty sure. ;) www2.uta.edu/hunt/charts/defleppard.html
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 16, 2007 9:29:07 GMT -5
So I've gone and modified the original post to include soundtracks. Other than the three already mentioned, the only other one to come, immediately, to mind was Saturday Night Fever. "The Big Chill" (1984?) prob. has about 10 top 40 hits on it (from the 60s) but these were past hits and the Sountrack didn't produce any original Top 40 hits...I'm thinkin the Soundtrack to "Forrest Gump" might be in the same category
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Post by Marv on Oct 16, 2007 11:27:16 GMT -5
I really doubt if the existence of Alternative radio in 1987/88 would have prevented 'Animal' from going top 20 at CHR/Pop; I do recall that someone very high up @ Polydor Records mentioned that 'Women' was the first single released because they wanted to let radio know that Def Leppard was 'back'.
They certainly knew that a song such as 'Women' wouldn't go anywhere at top 40 radio (and they were right), but the rest of the singles from that CD were all smashes at both AOR & CHR/Pop.
Keep in mind that rock records fared extremely well at top 40 radio throughout the entire decade, from the #3 single of the entire decade (1982's 'I Love Rock & Roll) through 'Hysteria'.
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Post by ba19 on Oct 16, 2007 14:15:16 GMT -5
Funny. C100 today mentioned this a few times as if it was a huge deal. But they didn't say 6 Hot 100 hits (or any other chart specifically), they just mentioned that Justin Timberlake's album has "6 singles". And I was thinking, yeah, that's impressive but it's not as rare as 6 proper hits from an album. Heck, if you include other formats, Shania Twain and the Dixie Chicks and even more recently, Nickelback, have had 6 releases from one album. c100 eh..are you fro nova scotia?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2007 16:12:59 GMT -5
Michael Jackson's Dangerous was released in 1991, not 92.
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Post by LordEctar on Oct 16, 2007 16:31:59 GMT -5
A + Which were the 5 LAV singles in Pop radio??? I don't think there were 5... the order was Like a virgin Material girl Crazy for you (not on the album) Angel Into the groove (not on the album) Dress you up So looks like 4 from LAV.
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 16, 2007 16:56:38 GMT -5
Yeah there was a thread about CDs with just 5 Top 40 singles a while back and I remember goin back and checkin and the only Madonna CD that even had 5 Top 40 singles was "True Blue" (Live To Tell, Papa Don't Preach, True Blue, Open Your Heart, La Isla Bonita) - I remember checkin the other big Madonna CDs and they had 4 singles or less
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Post by Cerebro on Oct 16, 2007 17:25:08 GMT -5
A + Which were the 5 LAV singles in Pop radio??? I don't think there were 5... the order was Like a virgin Material girl Crazy for you (not on the album) Angel Into the groove (not on the album) Dress you up So looks like 4 from LAV. Nope, 5. "Into The Groove" is on the album (according to Allmusic.com -- www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:h9fpxqq5ldje -- anyway). Being an airplay only track, it was ineligible for the Hot 100 (hence, why it's often forgotten). It got to #6 on the R&R Pop chart.
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Post by LordEctar on Oct 16, 2007 17:33:10 GMT -5
I have the Like A Virgin album on LP (record!) and it does not have Into the Groove on it. The CD does not have it on it either.
The overseas version may, but in the USA... Like a Virgin did not have Into the Groove on it.
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Post by skaterboyccs on Oct 16, 2007 17:33:45 GMT -5
A + Which were the 5 LAV singles in Pop radio??? I don't think there were 5... the order was Like a virgin Material girl Crazy for you (not on the album) Angel Into the groove (not on the album) Dress you up So looks like 4 from LAV. Like A Virgin was Re-edited with Into The Groove as Bonus
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 16, 2007 17:35:59 GMT -5
I don't think there were 5... the order was Like a virgin Material girl Crazy for you (not on the album) Angel Into the groove (not on the album) Dress you up So looks like 4 from LAV. Nope, 5. "Into The Groove" is on the album (according to Allmusic.com -- www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:h9fpxqq5ldje -- anyway). Being an airplay only track, it was ineligible for the Hot 100 (hence, why it's often forgotten). It got to #6 on the R&R Pop chart. Weird that nowadays "Into The Groove" is probably the most played track on that CD (on Hot AC and AC stations) Actually, seems like Madonna's most played singles today are "Crazy For You" (mostly on AC), "Borderline" (Hot AC and AC), "Holiday" (Hot AC), "Open Your Heart" (Hot AC and AC), "Into The Groove" (Hot AC), "La Isla Bonita" (mostly on AC), and "Live To Tell" (think I've heard it on AC) Her biggest hit (factoring in that in the 80s only playlists were used) was probably "Crazy For You" considering its #1 peak and remarkable longevity for the 80s...but seems like you never hear her other "big hits" like "Like A Virgin" "Material Girl" "Like A Prayer" "Express Yourself" "Take A Bow" "Secret" "This Used To Be My Playground" "Papa Don't Preach" or even "I'll Remember" except on 80s and 90s retro shows
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Post by LordEctar on Oct 16, 2007 17:43:19 GMT -5
I don't think there were 5... the order was Like a virgin Material girl Crazy for you (not on the album) Angel Into the groove (not on the album) Dress you up So looks like 4 from LAV. Like A Virgin was Re-edited with Into The Groove as Bonus ^overseas but not in the USA. Into the Groove does not count as a single from Like A Virgin.
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Post by Juanca on Oct 17, 2007 1:07:14 GMT -5
^ I know my posts were extremely large, but I would re-post a paragraph:
" (ITG) was included in the Desperately Seeking Susan soundtrack but NOT in the LAV track list, as issued in the Americas (North, Central and South). I know the European version included it, but in the US it was not available in the LAV album and was not released as a physical single, WHICH WAS A COMPLETE NONSENSE from her label, and that is why it has been probably the BEST non-released track of the 80s, not having charted in the Hot100, being one of the hottest dance hits of the decade and her first UK #1 (it could easily have been another #1 for her). The only way to get it, was the 7" version as a B-side of the Angel single, which in fact helped the chartrun of Angel "
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 17, 2007 9:44:49 GMT -5
Weird that this has turned into a Madonna chart history thread
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Post by Cerebro on Mar 18, 2008 6:39:30 GMT -5
I've bumped this thread up because we have a new inductee into the "More Than 5" Club. As of the 3/28/08 chart, "Finally" will, officially, become Fergie's 6th top 40 single off of her solo debut album The Dutchess. The singles:
"London Bridge (Oh S**t)" (#4) "Fergalicious" (#2) "Glamorous" (#2) "Big Girls Don't Cry (Personal)" (#1) "Clumsy" (#2) "Finally" (peak TBD)
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Post by G-Reg on Mar 18, 2008 10:32:29 GMT -5
Just a question - where did Kelly Clarkson's "Gone" peak on CHR/POP?
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Post by jrnleblanc on Mar 18, 2008 10:38:38 GMT -5
What about Shania Twain.
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Post by Cory | Alan on Mar 18, 2008 10:46:51 GMT -5
It should be noted that Paula Abdul's "Knocked Out" did get rereleased in support of the remix album to Forever Your Girl (Shut Up And Dance) and peaked inside the top 10 I believe. Therefore, Forever Your Girl does contain 6 top 10 hits. Paula was also dangerously close to being the first female artist to have 5 #1 singles from one album!! Paula was the TICKET from 1989 to 1991.
Isn't it amazing to see Janet's radio/chart success from the mid 1980's to the mid 1990's? She absolutely ruled the airwaves.
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Post by Michael1973 on Mar 18, 2008 13:31:12 GMT -5
It should be noted that Paula Abdul's "Knocked Out" did get rereleased in support of the remix album to Forever Your Girl (Shut Up And Dance) and peaked inside the top 10 I believe. I don't recall this ever happening.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 18, 2008 13:47:54 GMT -5
'Gone' didn't make the Pop chart and 'Come On Over' had five Top 40 hits.
I think it's interesting how 5+ singles is becoming more and more the norm now. How many is Rihanna's latest album on? 'Take A Bow' is single #5, right?
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Post by RihannaFAN²=ColdUmbrella! on Mar 18, 2008 15:36:51 GMT -5
'Gone' didn't make the Pop chart and 'Come On Over' had five Top 40 hits. I think it's interesting how 5+ singles is becoming more and more the norm now. How many is Rihanna's latest album on? 'Take A Bow' is single #5, right? yes its the 5th single.
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Post by when the pawn... on Mar 18, 2008 16:33:33 GMT -5
Uhh, the Fergie peaks are correct: #4, #2, #2, #1, #2
Jagged Little Pill could've easily gotten a 6th top 40 after #9 #6 #1 #1 #1
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Post by WotUNeed on Mar 18, 2008 17:22:07 GMT -5
Uhh, the Fergie peaks are correct: #4, #2, #2, #1, #2 Uhhh, not for CHR (and not sure whazzup with the sarcasm...) They look like Hot 100 peaks to me And then you used CHR peaks for Jagged Little Pill... They obviously aren't Hot 100 peaks since "London Bridge" went to #1, as did "Glamorous" I believe, while "Clumsy" almost certainly fell short of #2. Perhaps checking here before tossing around accusations (rudely) would be advisable. And if you don't like that site, then perhaps checking R&R's old charts yourself would do well. Blindly calling people wrong isn't very endearing.
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Post by atlantaboy on Mar 18, 2008 17:25:16 GMT -5
Uhhh, not for CHR (and not sure whazzup with the sarcasm...) They look like Hot 100 peaks to me And then you used CHR peaks for Jagged Little Pill... They obviously aren't Hot 100 peaks since "London Bridge" went to #1, as did "Glamorous" I believe, while "Clumsy" almost certainly fell short of #2. Perhaps checking here before tossing around accusations (rudely) would be advisable. And if you don't like that site, then perhaps checking R&R's old charts yourself would do well. Blindly calling people wrong isn't very endearing. Guess you're right...but you sure are odd "Endearing" haha...what planet are you from?
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Post by snappysnap on Mar 18, 2008 18:45:12 GMT -5
They obviously aren't Hot 100 peaks since "London Bridge" went to #1, as did "Glamorous" I believe, while "Clumsy" almost certainly fell short of #2. Perhaps checking here before tossing around accusations (rudely) would be advisable. And if you don't like that site, then perhaps checking R&R's old charts yourself would do well. Blindly calling people wrong isn't very endearing. Guess you're right...but you sure are odd "Endearing" haha...what planet are you from? Boys, boys, boys! Trust me, a craptastic artist like Fergie is NOT worth fighting over!
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Post by RihannaFAN²=ColdUmbrella! on Mar 18, 2008 19:32:33 GMT -5
Guess you're right...but you sure are odd "Endearing" haha...what planet are you from? Boys, boys, boys! Trust me, a craptastic artist like Fergie is NOT worth fighting over! so true. ;)
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Post by cavixen on Mar 18, 2008 19:57:40 GMT -5
Boys, boys, boys! Trust me, a craptastic artist like Fergie is NOT worth fighting over! so true. ;) Fergie's an artist? As in one who makes art?
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