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Post by Pipa on May 18, 2009 15:53:35 GMT -5
This song is to "What I've Done" what "Numb" is to "Crawling". And I mean that in a good way.
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Post by American Idiot on May 18, 2009 18:15:19 GMT -5
It basically is "What I've Done Part II" but I like it better. Typically, I'd expect this go straight to #1, but with so much other competition on the chart, I'm wondering now if it will even go Top 5.
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Post by Cody on May 18, 2009 18:19:10 GMT -5
oh it'll go top 5, we saw a Paramore movie theme song go top 5, and this is a bigger band with a bigger movie's theme, it'll probably actually find a way to hit the top 3. Remember that KoL and 311 are actually dropping
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Post by pen on May 18, 2009 18:24:01 GMT -5
This song is to "What I've Done" what "Numb" is to "Crawling". And I mean that in a good way. I always felt "Numb" was more similar to "Pushing Me Away" than "Crawling".
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Post by aTunes on May 18, 2009 18:38:17 GMT -5
I love this! It's good enough to easily be their 1st single from their next album, instead of just a soundtrack single. And I don't see how this is just What I've Done pt 2. I don't think it sounds like any of their songs really. This is going #1 on Alt, calling it now.
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Post by PHOBES on May 18, 2009 19:48:37 GMT -5
I definitely like this more than "What I've Done," but the similarities are especially evident in the chorus. I think the fact that they sound so similar makes it easy to say that this is the far superior song. Perhaps Green Day's hold won't be as long-lived as I first thought.
By the way, great vocal performance from Chester.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 18, 2009 19:49:15 GMT -5
This is my favorite Linkin Park single since "Breaking The Habit." Had "No More Sorrow" or "The Little Things Give You Away" been released off the MTM, I probably wouldn't have said that. And "Leave Out All The Rest" is close to on a par with this.
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Post by aTunes on May 18, 2009 19:53:57 GMT -5
I'd say the lyrics to this song are a career highpoint for them in that category.
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Post by Matt4319 on May 18, 2009 20:47:59 GMT -5
Yeah, the music is slightly similar to "What I've Done", but overall it's easily better IMO. I'd only have to go back to "Bleed It Out" to find a single I liked as much on first listen, but that hit the top 5 on my chart and I can't immediately rule this one out to perform the same.
This is also probably the longest Linkin Park song I've ever heard except for "The Little Things Give You Away".
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on May 18, 2009 21:08:32 GMT -5
I LOVE THIS! I want a pop adds date ASAP.
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Post by PHOBES on May 18, 2009 21:54:32 GMT -5
This is also probably the longest Linkin Park song I've ever heard except for "The Little Things Give You Away". "Shadow" is 20 seconds longer, just so you know.
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Post by Matt4319 on May 18, 2009 22:10:55 GMT -5
This is also probably the longest Linkin Park song I've ever heard except for "The Little Things Give You Away". "Shadow" is 20 seconds longer, just so you know. Yeah, but 40 or so seconds of it is that instrumental part that gets cut off the radio edit. (Yeah, I forgot about that one. )
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Post by Rich P. on May 19, 2009 8:22:38 GMT -5
Didn't make the Mediabase top 40 after Monday so less than 236 in one day. Someone have the numbers?
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Post by Matt4319 on May 19, 2009 8:42:33 GMT -5
Yeah, not exactly exploding out of the gate (138 spins on 51 stations), although I don't think it leaked until the middle of the day. Should be top 30 tomorrow though; I'd expect around 300 new spins.
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Post by Rich P. on May 19, 2009 8:48:17 GMT -5
Was it a Monday leak or a Monday official release? As it stands, let's predict where it'll end up on Monday; here's my formula: Previous day spins + New spins * days remaining. So today's prediction is 138 * 7 = 966 which would make a number 11 debut (after Papa Roach drops to low 900s).
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Post by Matt4319 on May 19, 2009 9:01:59 GMT -5
Was it a Monday leak or a Monday official release? As it stands, let's predict where it'll end up on Monday; here's my formula: Previous day spins + New spins * days remaining. So today's prediction is 138 * 7 = 966 which would make a number 11 debut (after Papa Roach drops to low 900s). I guess it was the official release rather than a leak, since it's on LP's myspace. I misspoke when I said "leak", but it didn't seem like it started getting play anywhere until mid-afternoon. LP doesn't have the full 7 days in its Mediabase week; the last day counting for airplay this week is Saturday. So you'd have 138 x 6 = 828 spins, which would place it in the 14-15 range... but again, I think its daily spin totals will be higher than 138 for most of the days this week. The top 8 are pretty strong right now, but 7 and 8 are bulletless. I'll predict a #7 debut, which is probably going to be way wrong even after all I just said, but we'll see.
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Post by Rich P. on May 19, 2009 9:28:48 GMT -5
Week ends on Saturday because of the holiday? If Linkin Park wanted to debut number 1, they could have planned better, but it's not over yet!
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Post by Matt4319 on May 19, 2009 9:55:43 GMT -5
Week ends on Saturday because of the holiday? If Linkin Park wanted to debut number 1, they could have planned better, but it's not over yet! No, that's every week. The airplay from a given day is reflected in the Mediabase totals the next day, which means the Sunday night final updates are counting airplay from (the previous) Sunday through Saturday.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 19, 2009 10:00:41 GMT -5
Maybe he's talking about Billboard, which is updated through Sunday and thus HitPredictor predicts the week's charts on Monday.
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Post by Rich P. on May 19, 2009 10:20:41 GMT -5
Might be a misunderstanding on my part. I thought that the Mediabase update that I'm looking at now: Updated: Tue May 19 4:11 AM PST, includes all reports that were collected through 12:00 AM EDT today, which includes airplay from the full day yesterday. So, Monday morning's report would be the full week, Monday May 18 12:00 AM through Sunday May 24 11:59:59 PM.
Have I been mistaken all this time?
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Post by Matt4319 on May 19, 2009 11:37:51 GMT -5
Might be a misunderstanding on my part. I thought that the Mediabase update that I'm looking at now: Updated: Tue May 19 4:11 AM PST, includes all reports that were collected through 12:00 AM EDT today, which includes airplay from the full day yesterday. So, Monday morning's report would be the full week, Monday May 18 12:00 AM through Sunday May 24 11:59:59 PM. Have I been mistaken all this time? Since you're referring to the Monday morning update, no... the Monday morning update will include airplay from Sunday. But the Sunday night update is the "Published" version as it appears on AllAccess - when Mediabase peaks are updated in the system, and when songs become recurrent. The board generally considers Sunday night to be the "official" weekly chart, out of habit from when R&R used the Mediabase Sunday night totals for their charts.
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Post by Ron57 on May 19, 2009 15:24:35 GMT -5
I saw it on iTunes on Monday....
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Post by fran182 on May 19, 2009 15:57:48 GMT -5
Just heard this for the first time. Good stuff! :) It seems like they will stick with the Minutes To Midnight sound! Based on the first listen, I believe that I like "New Divide" more than "What I've Done". Holy shit. I just noticed this is #2 on iTunes! :o :o
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Post by allnightmarelong on May 19, 2009 16:42:14 GMT -5
Linkin Park went from my favorite band, always in my CD player to a piece of plastic collecting dust in my CD collection. rap-metal may not be popular anymore but they were so good at it. they need to mix more of that element into their music or else they're going to continue to dwindle (IMO).
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Post by aTunes on May 19, 2009 16:45:51 GMT -5
Just heard this for the first time. Good stuff! :) It seems like they will stick with the Minutes To Midnight sound! Based on the first listen, I believe that I like "New Divide" more than "What I've Done". Holy s**t. I just noticed this is #2 on iTunes! :o :o #1 now!
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Post by pen on May 19, 2009 16:47:00 GMT -5
It irks me that a bunch of people feel that way. I understand why, but I dunno, I feel like Linkin Park is just beginning to show how creative they can be as a collective, expanding their sound outward instead of inward. Meteora was pretty much a rehash of Hybrid Theory, albeit tighter and more focused. It annoys me that several people seem to think that's all they should ever do. I love Minutes To Midnight and I know I'm not alone in thinking it's their best album yet, and I hope they continue in that path in the future. I just wish that feeling was more universal.
That said, this song is still unimpressive.
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Post by Ron57 on May 19, 2009 16:52:13 GMT -5
It irks me that a bunch of people feel that way. I understand why, but I dunno, I feel like Linkin Park is just beginning to show how creative they can be as a collective, expanding their sound outward instead of inward. Meteora was pretty much a rehash of Hybrid Theory, albeit tighter and more focused. It annoys me that several people seem to think that's all they should ever do. I love Minutes To Midnight and I know I'm not alone in thinking it's their best album yet, and I hope they continue in that path in the future. I just wish that feeling was more universal. That said, this song is still unimpressive. I agree 100% I kinda get mad when people say they don't like Linkin Park anymore cuz they were better before. I love how creative they got in Minutes to Midnight, and it's my favorite album yet.
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Post by aTunes on May 19, 2009 16:55:33 GMT -5
Although it's not my favorite album, Meteora is for reasons I already explained, MTM is a very high quality album, with nothing wrong with it. The evolution of their sound on the album was absolutely critical if they wanted to be a lasting band. It's about the dumbest thing for fans to say they should have kept the HT/Meteora sound, because if they had their career would be dead.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on May 19, 2009 19:12:02 GMT -5
Heard this today. Seems kinda like a B side leftover saved for a soundtrack. Oh wait, I guess it is. But because it's Linkin Park it will be top 4 in less than 10 days and probably #1 right after. Not an awful song, just a bit too ordinary.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 20, 2009 0:53:01 GMT -5
I always felt "Numb" was more similar to "Pushing Me Away" than "Crawling". Absolutely. It was unmistakably "Pushing Me Away Pt. 2" from the second I heard it. I pretty much laughed when I heard Chester croon, "Can't you see that you're smothering me" in the second verse, but over time it grew to become one of my favorite LP songs, definitely my favorite off Meteora, and one I can still enjoy on the radio. I got really burned out on it in early 2004, but amazingly, radio's mostly left it alone since then. This is also probably the longest Linkin Park song I've ever heard except for "The Little Things Give You Away". Hey, good point. :)
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