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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 14, 2009 19:42:14 GMT -5
Exactly, that's all proof of how amazing this journey is for the band. And it started way before this song if you want to find some more quotes. I only hope they can pick a good fourth and fifth tracks to wrap up this amazing timespan for them.
As for Green Day, I never said 21 Guns would be their biggest. I still think it could be in overall radio airplay. But it was duly noted that I was only referring to Active / Mainstream rock that I was surprised it went top 40. And the fact that it peaked at #24 and bulletless may add more to that. But on Modern, every song they release may go top 10 forever now.
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Post by Ron57 on Jul 14, 2009 19:44:53 GMT -5
Exactly, that's all proof of how amazing this journey is for the band. And it started way before this song if you want to find some more quotes. I only hope they can pick a good fourth and fifth tracks to wrap up this amazing timespan for them. As for Green Day, I never said 21 Guns would be their biggest. I still think it could be in overall radio airplay. But it was duly noted that I was only referring to Active / Mainstream rock that I was surprised it went top 40. And the fact that it peaked at #24 and bulletless may add more to that. But on Modern, every song they release may go top 10 forever now. So you never said it would be their biggest, but you still think it could be. That doesn't even make sense.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 14, 2009 19:50:03 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense. I'm not predicting it will, but I will not rule it out either. It has not even stretched its legs, assuming you're talking about 21 Guns. Dreams was a #1 CHR hit, and so can this.
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Post by pen on Jul 14, 2009 19:57:09 GMT -5
When he says the biggest he means on Alt and CHR, he didn't think Active was going to figure into it at all.
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Post by Ron57 on Jul 14, 2009 20:00:06 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense. I'm not predicting it will, but I will not rule it out either. It has not even stretched its legs, assuming you're talking about 21 Guns. Dreams was a #1 CHR hit, and so can this. The 2nd part of the sentence completely contradicts the first one is what I mean. You're saying you never did something, but you're still doing it.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 15, 2009 7:33:19 GMT -5
Hahaha. I remember him saying "21 Guns" would be Green Day's biggest hit ever and then awhile later saying he was suprised that it got into the top 40 on both formats. As for Green Day, I never said 21 Guns would be their biggest. Up to #55 on Modern with a decent shot of debuting in two chart weeks. This was the obvious crossover hit when I heard it three months ago. I bought the CD this morning, but haven't heard the whole album outside of the original 6 yet. I'm already a little disappointed that March Of The Dogs didn't make the album. It was one of my favorites on the promo release. But regardless, this could be their biggest hit to date. ... Ok then. But it was duly noted that I was only referring to Active / Mainstream rock that I was surprised it went top 40. I'm surprised it went top 40 on the rock stations. ... I see.
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Post by pen on Jul 15, 2009 9:59:51 GMT -5
When dealing with Artie, you kind of have to forget the English language exists a little.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 15, 2009 10:15:28 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense. I'm not predicting it will, but I will not rule it out either. So either way, you're going to be right!
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 15, 2009 10:36:12 GMT -5
I am still a little miffed it made the top 30 on rock. It seems like another pop sellout move. But we're in the wrong song topic for that!
As for Notion, I did not feel at first it was strong enough to follow the massive first two releases. It just seemed to be missing something to separate itself from other songs on the radio. While it has surely grown on me, I get the feeling those that have not bought the album are missing out on some excellent radio material. Maybe Kings Of Leon will stretch that out to five or six singles.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 15, 2009 12:10:56 GMT -5
As for Notion, I did not feel at first it was strong enough to follow the massive first two releases. It just seemed to be missing something to separate itself from other songs on the radio. What Artie said shortly after "Notion" was announced to be going for adds...
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Post by Cody on Jul 15, 2009 12:19:56 GMT -5
As for Notion, I did not feel at first it was strong enough to follow the massive first two releases. It just seemed to be missing something to separate itself from other songs on the radio. What Artie said shortly after "Notion" was announced to be going for adds... For anyone else Id say thats the finishing blow, but for Artie he'll find some stupid annoying way to argue...still
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Post by pen on Jul 15, 2009 12:30:31 GMT -5
The obvious answer is right in front of us. Artie is two people.
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Post by pen on Jul 15, 2009 12:31:19 GMT -5
Actually, probably Artie is multiple people. A collective consciousness, if you will. They call it the hive. And somewhere, somewhere deep in that vast collection of minds, is the queen.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 15, 2009 15:32:33 GMT -5
You're confusing my feelings about Notion with its subsequent chart performance. I would only have chosen Be Somebody and Cold Desert as worse single choices than Notion. But I am stunned by its airplay numbers so far, or as I said earlier, unbelievable.
If I were completing this cycle, I would pick Closer, Crawl, and Manhattan to finish it off. Then I would be amazed if those did not perform very well.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 15, 2009 16:14:03 GMT -5
You're confusing my feelings about Notion with its subsequent chart performance. Nope. You're clearly talking about the chart performance. Saying that it doesn't stand out enough to be able to get a good chart performance, in other words. As for Notion, I did not feel at first it was strong enough to follow the massive first two releases. It just seemed to be missing something to separate itself from other songs on the radio.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 16, 2009 8:10:34 GMT -5
I think we have a Bingo? Without dumbing it down too much for you, basically I have been stunned by Notion's chart performance when I thought it was a poor choice for a single. Now whether that's because it's a great song or just because Kings Of Leon is the biggest Amercian band around right now is debatable. But either way, unbelievable to me.
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Post by pen on Jul 16, 2009 10:05:57 GMT -5
Why did you smell a hat trick though? I think that's what's confusing people. If you thought it was a poor choice, wouldn't you have smelt fire and anguish instead?
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Post by lockebox on Jul 16, 2009 15:35:53 GMT -5
Indeed, the hat-trick remark is what is confusing. Since now you're saying you're suprised it's doing so welll ??? I think Artie may be suffering from Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde syndrome. I'm presuming the hat-trick comment was made by Jekyll. I actually can't look at the name Artie Ziff the same since the Paramore single of the same name was released. That was a huge dissapointment IMO.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 17, 2009 11:43:11 GMT -5
I think the early airplay numbers suggested it was only going to get hotter. Either way, I'm stunned they've taken it this far.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jul 20, 2009 17:45:18 GMT -5
i don't know if u guys noticed, but rumors of a possible Kings of Leon breakup has surfaced.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 20, 2009 18:02:00 GMT -5
That would make no sense since they've basically exploded all over the charts with the singles from this latest album.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 20, 2009 18:07:44 GMT -5
Sadly, it actually makes perfect sense. They have never had to deal with the media pressure in the U.S. before this run. But being from the same family should significantly reduce any band break-up chances.
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Post by pen on Jul 20, 2009 19:27:24 GMT -5
After all, it was pretty much Nirvana's success that caused Cobain to blow his brains out. Success is not always welcome.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 20, 2009 21:58:17 GMT -5
And not every band of brothers can retain all their members. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Chevelle-like story where the band continues with non-family members on board.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 20, 2009 22:18:04 GMT -5
I do not know about the Chevelle story, but The Allman Brothers Band have also gone on to great glory.
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Post by lockebox on Aug 18, 2009 7:30:51 GMT -5
Top 50 - Active
57 50 KINGS OF LEON - Notion 103 71 32 0.492
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Post by metalfan87 on Aug 18, 2009 8:11:12 GMT -5
it may not last long in the chart
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Post by fran182 on Aug 23, 2009 17:42:47 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 5 on Mediabase Alternative:
7 4 KINGS OF LEON Notion 1435 1326 +109 6.409
70 stations playing.
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Post by lockebox on Aug 23, 2009 17:46:58 GMT -5
Artie Ziff may well be right for the very first time. This could be the hat-trick.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Aug 24, 2009 10:11:31 GMT -5
I'm guessing it won't end up with the steam to hold off some of the other songs coming up behind it.
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