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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 8, 2009 16:37:43 GMT -5
this is great. by a close margin, it won't equal the success of Know Your Enemy
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 9, 2009 7:38:50 GMT -5
I'm impressed this is getting much attention at all on Modern.
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Post by fran182 on Jun 15, 2009 17:00:00 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 40 on Mediabase Active:
49 40 GREEN DAY 21 Guns 238 164 74 0.936
29 stations playing.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 15, 2009 17:45:54 GMT -5
it could do a little equal to Know Your Enemy on both Alternative and Active
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 16, 2009 14:23:45 GMT -5
How is anything "a little equal"?
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jun 16, 2009 21:59:31 GMT -5
im a little confused ;)
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Post by pen on Jun 16, 2009 23:49:03 GMT -5
How is anything "a little equal"? He obviously meant "about" equal. Jeez man, you are picker of nits.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 17, 2009 13:08:32 GMT -5
I'm surprised it went top 40 on the rock stations.
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Post by pen on Jun 17, 2009 13:25:10 GMT -5
I guess rock stations know a good song better than you do, Art.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 17, 2009 14:00:46 GMT -5
They know Green Day, I'll give you that.
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Post by fran182 on Jun 20, 2009 18:14:52 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 10 on Mediabase Alternative:
17 10 GREEN DAY 21 Guns 1061 825 236 4.464
70 stations playing.
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Post by Cody on Jun 20, 2009 19:26:30 GMT -5
I'm surprised it went top 40 on the rock stations. Are you serious? So you're surprised that Green Day, a band who like hits #1 with everything, just even made the top 40? After a song that went #1 on both formats, and after 5 huge albums on the charts? You have like no logical answer
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 21, 2009 22:04:06 GMT -5
I, and many others from what I've read expected more out of Green Day on this album. They basically made a sequel in my eyes. I assumed the harder rock stations would see 21 Guns as another adult and pop smash, way too familiar, thus ignoring it. I guess they're playing it.
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Post by Cody on Jun 21, 2009 22:08:56 GMT -5
lol dude no one's gonna ignore Green Day for many years to come
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Post by pen on Jun 21, 2009 22:13:34 GMT -5
21st Century Breakdown has received way more good reviews than bad.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 21, 2009 22:17:48 GMT -5
Not ignore Green Day. That won't happen for a while. This particular song.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 21, 2009 22:55:03 GMT -5
I could see active rock stations ignoring a Green Day song if it were really poppy. They already do it to Nickelback who happens to be their biggest core artist. Then again, those songs still peak around #30.
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Post by Cody on Jun 22, 2009 10:56:33 GMT -5
let me re-word that for you then Artie. Alternative radio is not gonna ignore any Green Day song cfor many years to come. You saw it with the 10 minute jesus Of Suburbia, which still got top 30 Alt airplay, they love them too much to ignore one of their singles. Besides, this is still as heavy as Wake Me Up When September Ends, which got to #2 on Alt
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 22, 2009 11:34:02 GMT -5
Considering Mainstream / Active rock pretty much ignored the 3 singles before Know Your Enemy (Suburbia / Saints / Hero), this figures to be a given. Especially when 21 Guns sounds so similar to Hero (with a little Wake Me mixed in). And nobody is talking Modern, they will always have an audience there. We're talking harder rock stations.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 22, 2009 11:51:43 GMT -5
But when it's the second single off a one month old Green Day album following four years after the success of American Idiot...and when the second single off AI was arguably the biggest rock song of the decade as for as success at all formats goes...and when it's not really lighter than "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" which went to #1 at active rock. I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if this song did too, though if I had to bet, I'd say it won't.
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Post by pen on Jun 22, 2009 12:03:04 GMT -5
Considering Mainstream / Active rock pretty much ignored the 3 singles before Know Your Enemy (Suburbia / Saints / Hero), this figures to be a given. Especially when 21 Guns sounds so similar to Hero (with a little Wake Me mixed in). And nobody is talking Modern, they will always have an audience there. We're talking harder rock stations. "Jesus Of Suburbia" was not only the fourth single off of American Idiot, but it was also over nine minutes long, so it's no wonder stations would be reluctant to spin it. As for "The Saints Are Coming" and "Working Class Hero", both of them were one-off covers and not promos for a new album, so it's also not surprising most stations would choose to ignore them in favor of promoting more useful singles.
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Post by Ron57 on Jun 22, 2009 12:34:23 GMT -5
Video was released, so everyone knows.
They used the cover of the album in the video...the whole two people kissing thing.
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Post by fran182 on Jun 22, 2009 12:58:04 GMT -5
Here's the video:
I like it a lot. Loved the kissing scene and the fact it's so similar to the album cover. It gives more "power" to the song and to the album meaning.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 22, 2009 13:40:27 GMT -5
Man this and that other song they released before this, (I know its name, just trying to make a point) are just plain boring.
I admit to disliking Green Day but I thought when they came back tehy would have major impact, but these two releases seem very dull.
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Post by Cody on Jun 22, 2009 17:47:31 GMT -5
But when it's the second single off a one month old Green Day album following four years after the success of American Idiot...and when the second single off AI was arguably the biggest rock song of the decade as for as success at all formats goes...and when it's not really lighter than "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" which went to #1 at active rock. I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if this song did too, though if I had to bet, I'd say it won't. :'( What a speech, makes me wanna cry, couldnt have said it better myself ;) EDIT: Im being serious lol, after I postd it it could be taken as something sarcastic, but its not
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Post by Rumors on Jun 22, 2009 18:04:52 GMT -5
Chance are good, but it just feels forced and way too familiar. Absolutely. I heard this twice over the weekend on the radio. It is a very nice song but darn it. I had to wait until I heard the 21 guns section to decide if it was in fact a new song or an old song. I'm a casual fan. I can recognize Billy's voice on the radio when I hear it and know its a GD song. But will other casual fans be like me and hear that beginning part and think it's on older song? Even the vocals (and delivery) sound like something I've heard before. I'm not a big enough fan to know which songs I thinking about. This song will not have the crossover appeal that Boulevard did for that very reason. Nickelback can get away with every song sounding similiar on pop and HotAC but I'm not sure that will work in Green Day's case. I'm sure it will be #1 on rock and alt.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 22, 2009 19:01:51 GMT -5
Nickelback can get away with every song sounding similiar on pop and HotAC but I'm not sure that will work in Green Day's case. ??? Don't agree with that atall. The thing is, the Nickelback songs are good where as this is pure crap.
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Post by pen on Jun 23, 2009 0:03:44 GMT -5
Actually the Nickelback songs are terrible. I liked Nickelback better before they Hinderized themselves.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 23, 2009 0:08:35 GMT -5
People hated on Nickelback long before they really sucked. Maybe they were prescient. Dark Horse is the only turd of an album they've churned out, though All The Right Reasons started to hint in that direction. I still like The Long Road though.
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Post by pen on Jun 23, 2009 0:18:55 GMT -5
My favorites will always be The State and Silver Side Up. The Long Road and ATRR aren't half bad, but Dark Horse is all bad.
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