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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 6, 2009 18:44:23 GMT -5
I've been saving CHR/Pop, Triple A and Hot AC for about five years now. And Canadian CHR, Hot AC and AC since R&R started posting them.
I *could* zip them and put them on my server for a few days perhaps?
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 6, 2009 18:48:03 GMT -5
Wow, that's actually great! How far back has R&R been posting the Canadian charts? Could you please fill me in on how can they be obtained? I've only been on this board since last summer. BTW, did you manage to save the last ones from this past Wednesday as well? If so, that will save me so much trouble from having to type information from those charts on to Word. This would be so greatly appreciated.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 6, 2009 18:51:15 GMT -5
I went there on Tuesday night and saved whatever ones they were. The next day was when R&R went down.
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 6, 2009 18:54:45 GMT -5
I went there on Tuesday night and saved whatever ones they were. The next day was when R&R went down. That's unfortunate. R&R was still up on Wednesday late in the morning; I found out what happened in the evening - the charts are still visible on my window but I can no longer save them so I've been keeping them open. But yes, I would like to know please how I can obtain access to the ones you do have. I've been saving the Canadian ones since April 2007.
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Post by S4C on Jun 6, 2009 19:57:27 GMT -5
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 6, 2009 20:12:41 GMT -5
Cool. Thanks for providing the link. I notice the beginning of the URL is different - how were you able to access that? I wouldn't have been able to figure that out other than trying cached pages of those charts.
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Post by S4C on Jun 6, 2009 21:14:10 GMT -5
I actually got a link to the working Christian formats page from a blog-thingy on Twitter, then found my way there. Any R&R page works as long as you replace the "www" in the url with "cclamp." (Which makes sense, since I'm pretty sure that was the old URL before they updated their design.)
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 6, 2009 22:03:03 GMT -5
Interesting. Thanks again for the link. I was able to save copies of the final charts that I needed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2009 22:19:28 GMT -5
I went to their site today not know and I read the note, it made me sad. :(
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 6, 2009 22:27:21 GMT -5
Is this going to affect Billboard and the Hot 100/Airplay at all?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 7, 2009 16:18:46 GMT -5
No, Hot 100 airplay will still use BDS.
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Post by musicfanpete on Jun 7, 2009 21:21:34 GMT -5
I've been saving CHR/Pop, Triple A and Hot AC for about five years now. And Canadian CHR, Hot AC and AC since R&R started posting them. I *could* zip them and put them on my server for a few days perhaps? I'd be up for that if possible. :)
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Jun 8, 2009 13:49:21 GMT -5
Is this going to affect Billboard and the Hot 100/Airplay at all? Radio & Records airplay charts came from BDS, so there will not be any impact regarding the information. What will likely happen is that the airplay information formerly provided for free, will now be available to billboard.biz subscribers only. I am looking forward to Wednesday to see what is available on billboard.biz.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 8, 2009 17:49:05 GMT -5
Some years back, I ordered copies of year-end charts (that was sold viaa lump package)- anyone else get that?
Did R&R have a similar number to Billboard of stations that comprised its radio panel? Billboard had some 220 stations in 1990, I recall. Up through 1991, Billboard's Hot 100 Airplay and R&R's CHR charts were very similar- every now and then,a single would peak a notch or two higher on R&R, but, overall, very close. R&R included tracks that weren't available as 7-inch singles, which Billboard didn't do until 1986/1987 (Bon Jovi having the first one).
Then, BB introduced Top 40 Mainstream in 1992, which being spins-based, wasn't as similar to R&R's CHR/Pop chart as H100 Airplay had been (with some notable discrepancies. But, question- were those stations Billboard classified as Rhythm-Crossover (30-40 stations) still part of R&R's CHR panel? R&R ultimately changed to spins-based charts in 1994/1995, also starting a rhythmic chart.
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 10, 2009 13:13:23 GMT -5
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Jun 10, 2009 15:16:28 GMT -5
thanks for the link. I thought the charts would now be under the Billboard banner. Seems like the shutdown was rather rushed.
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Post by S4C on Jun 10, 2009 15:23:29 GMT -5
Odd... I didn't figure they would continue to update that sight - I checked earlier today, and the Chart Highlights weren't updated, so I expected the worst.
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 10, 2009 16:43:38 GMT -5
Odd... I didn't figure they would continue to update that sight - I checked earlier today, and the Chart Highlights weren't updated, so I expected the worst. Me too. I was thinking for sure the charts were no longer going to be updated. I decided to check it out for myself and just before lunchtime, new charts were posted. As long as that link to the site still works, I'm greatful we still have access to those charts.
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Jun 10, 2009 17:39:56 GMT -5
Odd... I didn't figure they would continue to update that sight - I checked earlier today, and the Chart Highlights weren't updated, so I expected the worst. Me too. I was thinking for sure the charts were no longer going to be updated. I decided to check it out for myself and just before lunchtime, new charts were posted. As long as that link to the site still works, I'm greatful we still have access to those charts. It looks like June 10th is the last day. Tomorrow Billboard posts new charts, including a rock airplay chart that amalgamates the audience numbers of "Alternative" "Triple A" and "Mainstream" rock. Also the Pop 100 is gone (no big loss there, I never could figure out its' purpose). All this according to the Chart Beat prelude that was posted today.
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 10, 2009 18:16:37 GMT -5
Really...so I guess today's the last day for Radio & Records' website - they're shutting it down for good as of tomorrow, I suppose?
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 10, 2009 18:29:31 GMT -5
From Billboard:
CHART DEBUTS: Last week, Nielsen, owner of Billboard, announced the closing after 36 years of trade publication Radio & Records (R&R). In addition to news items and feature stories, R&R also contained a host of airplay charts powered by Nielsen BDS data.
This week, a pair of R&R's charts migrate to Billboard: Active Rock and Heritage Rock (whose reporters combine to comprise Billboard's 28-year-old Mainstream Rock chart panel). Effective this week, the Modern Rock chart also segues to its new name, Alternative (better reflecting the descriptor used among those in the format), and Billboard introduces the 50-position audience-based Rock Songs chart, which ranks airplay among alternative, rock and triple A reporters. (The Rock Songs chart's first No. 1 is "Know Your Enemy" by Green Day).
In the Christian genre, the Christian Songs chart expands from 30 to 50 positions, and R&R's Christian CHR list joins Billboard's chart menu.
Billboard's sales/airplay hybrid Pop 100, meanwhile, is discontinued. In place of the chart, which launched in 2005 and more recently had more mirrored the Hot 100 in light of heightened digital sales, the airplay-only plays-based Mainstream Top 40 survey, which began in 1992, will track the progress of songs across U.S. pop radio.
I wonder what the situation will be with the Canadian charts. Although since nothing has been mentioned about them, I assume no significant changes are expected.
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Post by S4C on Jun 10, 2009 20:00:16 GMT -5
WOOOHOOOO!!! CHRISTIAN CHR CHARTS! BOOOO YA! Now if we only had Christian Rock charts.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jun 10, 2009 20:15:52 GMT -5
How will we know what goes for adds each week now?
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Post by pc1978 on Jun 10, 2009 20:22:28 GMT -5
What about the Urban and Rhythmic charts?
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Jun 11, 2009 10:34:37 GMT -5
What about the Urban and Rhythmic charts? No change to those charts. Will be what is in Billboard magazine.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 11, 2009 11:13:11 GMT -5
From Billboard: CHART DEBUTS: Last week, Nielsen, owner of Billboard, announced the closing after 36 years of trade publication Radio & Records (R&R). In addition to news items and feature stories, R&R also contained a host of airplay charts powered by Nielsen BDS data. This week, a pair of R&R's charts migrate to Billboard: Active Rock and Heritage Rock (whose reporters combine to comprise Billboard's 28-year-old Mainstream Rock chart panel). Effective this week, the Modern Rock chart also segues to its new name, Alternative (better reflecting the descriptor used among those in the format), and Billboard introduces the 50-position audience-based Rock Songs chart, which ranks airplay among alternative, rock and triple A reporters. (The Rock Songs chart's first No. 1 is "Know Your Enemy" by Green Day). In the Christian genre, the Christian Songs chart expands from 30 to 50 positions, and R&R's Christian CHR list joins Billboard's chart menu. Billboard's sales/airplay hybrid Pop 100, meanwhile, is discontinued. In place of the chart, which launched in 2005 and more recently had more mirrored the Hot 100 in light of heightened digital sales, the airplay-only plays-based Mainstream Top 40 survey, which began in 1992, will track the progress of songs across U.S. pop radio. I wonder what the situation will be with the Canadian charts. Although since nothing has been mentioned about them, I assume no significant changes are expected. I don't see any of the new charts out right now.
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Jun 11, 2009 11:31:43 GMT -5
Billboard seems to be struggling with the changeover. It should be interesting to see what their excuse is. I could not find any mention of the R&R closure in the print edition of billboard. Usually they give a heads-up when new charts are coming into the magazine.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 11, 2009 12:12:43 GMT -5
maybe they'll be posted by Saturday
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Post by Hervard on Jun 12, 2009 8:45:21 GMT -5
Are the Christian AC charts also printed in Billboard?
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Post by S4C on Jun 12, 2009 10:38:43 GMT -5
Yeah they are.
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