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Post by pen on Jun 5, 2009 14:27:04 GMT -5
The third single from No Line On The Horizon goes for adds July 13th. I like this song and it's a fun one, but I hope they release "Moment Of Surrender" or "Unknown Caller" at some point as I think those would do especially well. But I saw this one coming.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 5, 2009 14:58:49 GMT -5
They would have to make sharp radio edits for either of those two tracks to have a chance at any remote commercial impact, and I think editing the former especially would diminish the song of its beauty immensely.
"I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight" is the most radio-friendly track on the album, and it might just make some sort of commercial impact because it's concise and it has a very familiar classic U2 sound. I also think it's humorous how Bono pokes at himself in the song, claiming that "the right to look ridiculous is a right I hold dear."
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by pen on Jun 5, 2009 15:03:56 GMT -5
They would have to make sharp radio edits for either of those two tracks to have a chance at any remote commercial impact, and I think editing the former especially would diminish the song of its beauty immensely. You're probably right, but I think that's stupid, because radio lets Tool get away with seven minute long singles, and U2 is far better, more popular, and more prolific than Tool.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 5, 2009 15:07:25 GMT -5
They would have to make sharp radio edits for either of those two tracks to have a chance at any remote commercial impact, and I think editing the former especially would diminish the song of its beauty immensely. You're probably right, but I think that's stupid, because radio lets Tool get away with seven minute long singles, and U2 is far better, more popular, and more prolific than Tool. Agreed. Indeed, many classic rock and Triple A stations play "Bad" in its entire, unedited duration often as a recurrent. Even so, I've never thought "Unknown Caller" especially as radio-friendly at all. I like that song and its concept of having a moment of zen at an ATM machine, but musically it just wanders softly. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by pen on Jun 5, 2009 15:09:23 GMT -5
You're probably right, but I think that's stupid, because radio lets Tool get away with seven minute long singles, and U2 is far better, more popular, and more prolific than Tool. Agreed. Indeed, many classic rock and Triple A stations play "Bad" in its entire, unedited duration often as a recurrent. Even so, I've never thought "Unknown Caller" especially as radio-friendly at all. I like that song and its concept of having a moment of zen at an ATM machine, but musically it just wanders softly. Sincerely, Noah Eaton I thought "Moment Of Surrender" was the one at the ATM. I just think they're the two most powerful songs on the album next to "Magnificent".
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 5, 2009 15:17:14 GMT -5
Agreed. Indeed, many classic rock and Triple A stations play "Bad" in its entire, unedited duration often as a recurrent. Even so, I've never thought "Unknown Caller" especially as radio-friendly at all. I like that song and its concept of having a moment of zen at an ATM machine, but musically it just wanders softly. Sincerely, Noah Eaton I thought "Moment Of Surrender" was the one at the ATM. I just think they're the two most powerful songs on the album next to "Magnificent". You're right, I meant "Moment of Surrender". I'd say "White As Snow" is the most powerful track overall, but those two tracks are both quite strong as well. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by halo19 on Jun 7, 2009 17:31:07 GMT -5
By this point it's my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby and the album of the year contender. A real grower.
This was the obvious single. I wasn't really big on "Unknown Caller" like everyone else. Speaking of great Bono lyrics I also like the likes of "Stop helping God across the road like a little old lady" and others from "Stand Up Comedy." Usually critics aren't too big on that one but I don't mind it and heard it on Music Choice quite a bit, which is weird because I wouldn't think of it as a "Magnificent" replacement.
"White as Snow" is gorgeous. "MoS" is amazing, better with each listen. I find the interlude at the beginning of "FEZ - Being Born" to be rather entertaining.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jun 8, 2009 2:54:28 GMT -5
I find the interlude at the beginning of "FEZ - Being Born" to be rather entertaining. If I understand the liner notes correctly, it seems "FEZ" is the interlude you speak of and "Being Born" is the actual song. (It was a very puzzling title, initially; I still don't get why Fez is capitalized and why there's a dash instead of the usual forward slash.)
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Post by pen on Jun 8, 2009 10:09:42 GMT -5
I find the interlude at the beginning of "FEZ - Being Born" to be rather entertaining. If I understand the liner notes correctly, it seems "FEZ" is the interlude you speak of and "Being Born" is the actual song. (It was a very puzzling title, initially; I still don't get why Fez is capitalized and why there's a dash instead of the usual forward slash.) I'm pretty sure the title is meant to be taken as one statement, because the band spent some time in Fez, Morocco during the recording sessions for the album and they proclaimed it had an inspiring effect on them. I think it was The Edge that compared the experience to "being born" again. Thus the title, "Fez - Being Born". I can't find the article where he says this though.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jun 9, 2009 3:00:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the title is meant to be taken as one statement, because the band spent some time in Fez, Morocco during the recording sessions for the album and they proclaimed it had an inspiring effect on them. I think it was The Edge that compared the experience to "being born" again. Thus the title, "Fez - Being Born". I can't find the article where he says this though. It was probably Rolling Stone where I read how inspired they found Fez to be. Looking at the album credits, there are, however, separate mixing credits for "FEZ" and "Being Born."
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 9, 2009 15:17:30 GMT -5
This is radiofriendly no doubt, but I don't see it impacting anywhere outside of Triple A and maybe alt stations that with no Triple A around them.
Unknown Caller would do great on alt, Triple A, and modern rock.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 9, 2009 15:21:45 GMT -5
Am I the only one who remembers this already charted on Billboard's Progressive / 3A and peaked in the 20s? It was March or April, but this already hit the charts as the second single. Strange.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 9, 2009 15:54:09 GMT -5
That would be discussed in the Hot AC/Triple AAA part of the site then. That said, this is the third Alternative single.
Plus it seems like many 3A stations pick out whatever songs they wanna play off a CD, single or not.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 9, 2009 21:36:57 GMT -5
Yeah i bet that it was unsolicited airplay that made it peak early. That's probably around the same time Magnificent hit the Hot 100 due to digital downloads.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 9, 2009 21:50:36 GMT -5
That would be discussed in the Hot AC/Triple AAA part of the site then. That said, this is the third Alternative single. Plus it seems like many 3A stations pick out whatever songs they wanna play off a CD, single or not. I still find it interesting that Alternative decided to play Death Cab For Cutie's slower, piano-centered "Grapevine Fires" (official single), while Triple A instead chose the more upbeat, guitar-heavy "No Sunlight" (album track). It's strange to me it wasn't the other way around, as more piano-based rock seems to thrive better on Triple A. Death Cab For Cutie probably would have gotten yet another Top 10 hit from "Narrow Stairs" on Alternative had they released "No Sunlight" there. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 9, 2009 21:52:52 GMT -5
Am I the only one who remembers this already charted on Billboard's Progressive / 3A and peaked in the 20s? It was March or April, but this already hit the charts as the second single. Strange. Both this and "Magnificent" charted the week the album was released ("Magnificent" higher than "I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight". "Moment Of Surrender" also charted as an album track in some countries worldwide on the week the album was released. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Matt4319 on Jun 10, 2009 9:20:01 GMT -5
Looks like "Magnificent" and/or "Get On Your Boots" could have been blackballed:
(from AllAccess Net News)
Is Bono Being Boycotted? musicFIRST Claims Boycott Several stations within a major radio broadcast group notified the artist's label that they would no longer play his single on the air. Which top-selling artist purportedly had his new single yanked from some radio stations playlists in retaliation for supporting royalties for musicians?
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS reports no one involved will name the recording artist, but his no-play treatment by several radio stations is alleged in a complaint filed with the FCC and obtained by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. It claims recording artists are being threatened and intimidated.
In the filing, the MUSICFIRST COALITION says the top-selling artist -- there are hints it could be U2 frontman BONO -- recently released a new album and spoke during APRIL (NET NEWS 4/20) in support of an effort to require radio stations to pay musicians royalties similar to those paid to songwriters.
Soon after, it said, "several stations within a major radio broadcast group notified the artist's label that they would no longer play his single on the air."
"These are the cases we know about," MUSICFIRST Exec. Dir. JENNIFER BENDALL said. "We can only imagine what may be happening under the cover of silence."
Representatives for MUSICFIRST refused to identify the artist. U2's album, "No Line on the Horizon," was released in MARCH with its leadoff single, "Get on Your Boots."
A Response To Bono's Support Of Performance Fee?
In APRIL, BONO issued a statement on behalf of pay for musicians, saying, "It's only fair that when radio makes money by playing a recording artist's music ... the recording artist should be compensated just as songwriters are already."
Calls and e-mails by The AP to a spokeswoman for BONO were not immediately returned.
Other artists involved with MUSICFIRST include DON HENLEY, CELINE DION, CHRISTINA AGUILERA and WYCLEF JEAN.
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Post by pen on Jun 10, 2009 11:04:12 GMT -5
Wow, that's a really shitty thing to do, especially since Bono is right. Fuck radio.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 10, 2009 12:31:42 GMT -5
^I'm not so sure he's "right" per se, although it is an interesting point, but I don't think it holds much weight.
Radio stations also play commercials, but they don't pay the companies for their advertisements, the companies pay the station. That said, I know people don't listen to radio for commercials (maybe some do, for all I know), but who gets paid for what? If a station plays your song 25 times a week do you get paid more than an artist who gets played 20 times a week? And where does callout factor in? Or labels?
I don't know, I could see larger (richer) artists telling stations not to pay them if they play their songs x amount of times (Reverse payola conspiracy theory?). I don't like the idea, plus I think it would cause smaller stations to implode.
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Post by pen on Jun 10, 2009 12:37:42 GMT -5
I was thinking just a general pay. Not based on play, just you pay a certain amount to the artist to have the right to play a song. Although I can kind of see how that might damage some artists' play on radio, assuming stations don't want to pay them to play their song. I just can see where Bono might be coming from though and I'm all about musicians getting more money.
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Post by Matt4319 on Jul 22, 2009 8:40:10 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 50 at Mediabase Alternative:
73 49 U2 I'll Go Crazy If I D... 189 81 108 0.945
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 23, 2009 2:00:29 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 50 at Mediabase Alternative: 73 49 U2 I'll Go Crazy If I D... 189 81 108 0.945 That's a nice surprise, considering how little staying power the first two singles had. :)
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jul 31, 2009 14:30:43 GMT -5
Top 40 on Mediabase Alternative
46 40 U2 I'll Go Crazy If I D... 243 219 24 1.079
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Post by WotUNeed on Jul 31, 2009 14:38:14 GMT -5
I think this is my favorite of the three singles released thus far from this album. I'm glad at least some part of the Alt panel still has respect for current U2.
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Post by American Idiot on Aug 1, 2009 1:18:43 GMT -5
I don't like it as much as "Magnificent" but better than "Put Your Boots On." They don't seem to be scoring and having the longevity like they have with this album's singles than in the past.
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Post by fran182 on Aug 4, 2009 11:22:14 GMT -5
This is my favorite song on No Line On The Horizon. I think it was obvious this would become a single. Sooner or later, it would happen. It's easily the most radio-friendly song in the album. It's a bit too poppy for Alternative and the 2 first singles from this era underperformed, though, so I guess it will peak in the mid thirties. Hope "No Line On The Horizon" and "White As Snow" become singles, at some time.
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