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Post by fran182 on Mar 1, 2010 16:32:59 GMT -5
The Alternative format is in serious need of some new releases from core artists.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 1, 2010 16:40:34 GMT -5
Arise Stone Temple Pilots!
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 1, 2010 16:41:03 GMT -5
examples:
30 Seconds To Mars' This Is War Cage The Elephant's In One Ear
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 2, 2010 3:59:44 GMT -5
The Alternative format is in serious need of some new releases from core artists. More like some new ideas and bigger risks.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 2, 2010 8:05:36 GMT -5
Actually I'm kind of hoping Resistance makes it to #1.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 2, 2010 12:37:39 GMT -5
Actually I'm kind of hoping Resistance makes it to #1. I'll run round my neighborhood nude if it doesn't.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 2, 2010 18:09:04 GMT -5
The Alternative format is in serious need of some new releases from core artists. More like some new ideas and bigger risks. More like, let's just do what Canada's doing. 1 1 METRIC Gold Guns Girls Metric/Mom + Pop 342 2 3 PEARL JAM Just Breathe Monkeywrench 299 3 2 MUSE Resistance Warner Bros. 290 4 6 CAGE THE ELEPHANT Back Against The Wall Jive/JLG 234 5 4 ALICE IN CHAINS Your Decision Virgin/Capitol 233 6 5 TEGAN & SARA Hell Reprise 222 7 9 BILLY TALENT Saint Veronika Warner Music Canada 194 8 7 THEM CROOKED VULTURES New Fang DGC/Interscope 191 9 13 CRASH KINGS Mountain Man Custard/Universal Motown 172 10 10 KINGS OF LEON Crawl RCA/RMG 164 That's fresh enough.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Mar 2, 2010 22:51:50 GMT -5
The Alternative format is in serious need of some new releases from core artists. More like some new ideas and bigger risks. You must admit, though...the last four months have sparked a slight change, particularly on the bottom 1/2 of the chart. (Perhaps it's due to the dearth of releases from the "usual suspects", i.e. the past-their-prime chart-toppers).
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Post by crash46 on Mar 3, 2010 1:54:38 GMT -5
Muse is the best thing the Alternative chart has had going for it in years. F*** core artists. They score #1 hits and 50 weeks on the chart without having to lift a finger.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Mar 3, 2010 2:09:22 GMT -5
F*** core artists. They score #1 hits and 50 weeks on the chart without having to lift a finger. Most of the "core artists" I still enjoy to various degrees. I mean, I think RHCP, Weezer, et al are respectable and innovative artists. However, with Staind and another nu-metal clones mixed in, well.....it just seems like perpetual weekly clonings of 2001. I'm just tired of artists such as Metric, for example, having to work tirelessly just to score top 20 success. And even that is regarded as a tremendous accomplishment for a new or left field artist in 2010. As I mentioned in the other thread, I have undergone a slight personal transformation in my musical taste. Gone are the nu-metal clones, for the most part. I just grew tired of the 2001 re-hash and even most of the emo/punk. Not that there isn't anything wrong with a little Break The Cycle-era Staind or a New Found Glory album but this format needs to be turned upside down. Why shouldn't I facilitate the process to the best of my ability (i.e. posting in a musical forum)? Active Rock, for the record, is beyond hopeless. I think at least Nick, crash, and I can agree. I hope pen and some others can agree, as well. Sorry, metalheads. (Active Rock, IMO, should become an "alternative metal" format in the essence that it's a groundbreaking sound for harder music, but that's probably a separate forum altogether. Enough Saliva, already).
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 3, 2010 2:19:50 GMT -5
Well part of your bias against active rock is that you live in Kansas City. KQRC isn't exactly an exciting station. If you lived in say Madison, WI you might feel more favorably about the format. WJJO is a really good station that basically treats the format as alternative metal as you would want it too.
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Post by crash46 on Mar 3, 2010 2:44:29 GMT -5
I love the RHCP and Green Day; I can enjoy The Foo Fighters, Weezer, Linkin Park, etc. I just can't stand the idea of them releasing records for the sake of chart regulation just because I selfishly don't want a particular song or band hitting #1.
Obviously I'd love for Active to share your vision, but they've already got an audience and surely they're just gonna keep snatching up whatever works with that audience. Alternative metal is only a niche sub-genre for satellite radio, and will be as long as there's something that's more likely to work for ground radio. They're not blameless; radio has been an arrogant bitch ever since becoming a staple of Corporate America, but people just need to speak loudly enough with their power buttons before the changes we want have any chance of taking place.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 3, 2010 5:06:07 GMT -5
1 1 METRIC Gold Guns Girls Metric/Mom + Pop 342 2 3 PEARL JAM Just Breathe Monkeywrench 299 3 2 MUSE Resistance Warner Bros. 290 4 6 CAGE THE ELEPHANT Back Against The Wall Jive/JLG 234 5 4 ALICE IN CHAINS Your Decision Virgin/Capitol 233 6 5 TEGAN & SARA Hell Reprise 222 7 9 BILLY TALENT Saint Veronika Warner Music Canada 194 8 7 THEM CROOKED VULTURES New Fang DGC/Interscope 191 9 13 CRASH KINGS Mountain Man Custard/Universal Motown 172 10 10 KINGS OF LEON Crawl RCA/RMG 164 That's fresh enough. I would love if a band like Metric could have a #1 Alternative song in the U.S. and if a band like T&S could have a Top 10 hit. Actually, my heart would sing if a female ever got to #1 again. Of course, bands like 30 Seconds to Mars, Phoenix, and Muse getting #1s is still very, very welcome. I guess even if I don't think Cage the Elephant are a #1-caliber band, it's cool that newer talent is getting the pole position, lately. I couldn't wait for "The Pretender"'s reign to end, but I was fine sitting back week after week watching "Uprising" rack up all those weeks at #1 and beat "The Pretender"'s record with a 19th week at the top. More like some new ideas and bigger risks. You must admit, though...the last four months have sparked a slight change, particularly on the bottom 1/2 of the chart. (Perhaps it's due to the dearth of releases from the "usual suspects", i.e. the past-their-prime chart-toppers). My biggest problem is that punk and screamo struggles now when it should've been the post-grunge active rock to fall out of favor first. You're right in that the bottom half of the chart has been overhauled over the last 6 months or so, but what good does it do me if that's the stuff that my Alt station doesn't touch? Muse is the best thing the Alternative chart has had going for it in years. F*** core artists. They score #1 hits and 50 weeks on the chart without having to lift a finger. This.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 5, 2010 10:44:48 GMT -5
^Honestly, looking at the negative bullets in the top 6 at alternative, "Resistance" could realistically jump from #7 to #1 to claim the #1 spot by next Monday, maybe even Sunday if its rate of ascent increases. It's at #3 with a +223 bullet. It definitely has a shot.
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Post by Mega248 on Mar 6, 2010 1:23:39 GMT -5
Anyone know how long it's been since an artist occupied the top 2 spots on Alternative? Muse has an outside shot at doing that on Sunday:
1 1 CAGE THE ELEPHANT Back Against The Wal... Jive/JLG 1527 1674 -147 2 2 MUSE Uprising Warner Bros. 1488 1576 -88 8 3 MUSE Resistance Warner Bros. 1465 1241 224
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Post by when the pawn... on Mar 9, 2010 8:52:05 GMT -5
Anyone have a week-by-week chart run for this song on Alt?
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Post by Mega248 on Mar 10, 2010 1:52:59 GMT -5
Anyone have a week-by-week chart run for this song on Alt? 16-14-8-5-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-2-2-2-3 Due to its fast rise, it's going to be almost impossible for this to break the WOC record (and really, as much as I love it I hope it doesn't because that would require the song staying in the top 20 until December).
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Post by Matt4319 on Jul 26, 2010 0:17:44 GMT -5
Top 10 on Alternative:
12 9 MUSE Uprising 919 881 38 5.735
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 26, 2010 2:25:10 GMT -5
^Haha, too bad that bullet isn't too big. I'm not sure it quite has the legs to go top 5. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2010 3:06:33 GMT -5
16-14-8-5-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-2-2-2-3-2-4-4-6-6-8-6-6-6-5-9-10-9-11-12-12-12-12-12-9
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 26, 2010 4:08:03 GMT -5
Top 10 on Alternative: 12 9 MUSE Uprising 919 881 38 5.735 Ho ho! Awesome.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Aug 18, 2010 10:36:59 GMT -5
I think this is the first time a song manages to re-enter the Alternative songs chart after going recurrent on it. This comes back in at #10.
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Post by Sir Benji on Aug 18, 2010 10:49:41 GMT -5
this is still charting isn't it? I've actually been hearing this more not that i'm complaining this probably my favorite Muse song
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Post by when the pawn... on Aug 18, 2010 10:51:20 GMT -5
Incredible that this, "1901" and "Savior" are still kicking.
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Post by The Party Captain on Aug 18, 2010 17:00:17 GMT -5
Absolutely pathetic. We need new music.
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Post by Sir Benji on Aug 18, 2010 18:35:08 GMT -5
i agree with the 2nd part of your post
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