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Post by Zinc. on Jul 2, 2017 3:54:48 GMT -5
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Post by Rican@ on Jul 2, 2017 11:19:46 GMT -5
The album is cute and bland; however, I remembered someone mentioning that "Way Back" would be the only good track, that is somewhat true in this case. I mean it is basically only single on this album. I was hoping for some good R&B jams yet we got many late 00s Rihanna's songs on this album. While not bad, it does not feel too much like TLC. I was listening to "Interlude" and I was lost as hell on what I was listening to (maybe because I was in the car playing it).
I do love "American Gold". "It's Sunny" is great. "Scandalous" is cute. "JoyRide" is another highlight for me too. Yet again, I'm wondering who they are trying to market this too because while some of these tracks could be hits if they were two young white males (maybe even white females) on Pop, I do not see much from this release on any market.
Quite honestly, this release is disappointing. I loved 3D and now this one is making 3D feels like a classic. I won't even compare it to their first three albums, that would just wrong.
Hell, I would prefer them trying their things at Trap Soul, but there is not much replay value on this.
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Post by DJ General on Jul 2, 2017 13:26:33 GMT -5
I only kept Way Back, Way Back Extended, Haters and No Introduction
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Post by think pink. on Jul 2, 2017 19:26:36 GMT -5
Why the hell wasn't "No Introduction" the first or second single?
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Jul 2, 2017 20:45:27 GMT -5
I listened to the album once...and will probably listen to it one more time to confirm I'll never listen to it again.
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 3, 2017 8:57:07 GMT -5
A lot of the production sounds cheap. Like this was all produced by new people. LOL. Half of the album was produced by T-Boz's brother. So yeah. Let me get this straight. T-Boz took yall kickstarter money and gave most of it to her brother for these cheap, 2nd rate, bland beats? Scammer of the year.
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Post by Jay D83 on Jul 3, 2017 13:20:19 GMT -5
^^ How many real producers are you going to get to make an album with $500,000? Plus video shoots, studio fees, engineers, CD pressings, managers fees etc the only acts who can make an album that cheap are self contained musicians. Last I checked, T-Boz and Chili don't produce.
All things considered, I like it. I liked 3D more, but it's one of the best R&B albums to come out lately to me.
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Post by George on Jul 3, 2017 14:54:02 GMT -5
It looks like the only physical version in the U.S. is the clean version. Amazon shipped out the clean version too even though the page said explicit next to some of the songs. What bothers me the most is the fact that they completely removed "Aye Muthafucka", making the album even shorter. Europe got the physical "deluxe" version with the explicit songs and the re-recorded bonus tracks.
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Post by Rican@ on Jul 3, 2017 21:09:46 GMT -5
It is quite nonsense that "Aye Muthafucka" was not released on physical release. This album has been in the works for a minute for this to be the case. The mishandling of this release is such a tragic.
However, going over this album again, I'm feeling "Perfect Girls" and "Start A Fire" now too. Yet again, the marketing plan for this album is a lost cause and if "Way Back" cannot pick up any steam, I doubt this album does anything. It is basically a waste of release, imo.
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Post by syrus on Jul 4, 2017 10:41:21 GMT -5
Janet's last album had a production budget of 250k. I'm sure more money was spent on promo, videos, etc. So what did TLC really do with this money? I really missed my calling with A&R because I could've come up with 12 better songs than what they put out. Way Back is classic TLC and that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 10:51:28 GMT -5
Janet's last album had a production budget of 250k. I'm sure more money was spent on promo, videos, etc. So what did TLC really do with this money? I really missed my calling with A&R because I could've come up with 12 better songs than what they put out. Way Back is classic TLC and that's it. Janet probably benefited from her long-term relationship with Jimmy & Terry in terms of what that album cost (plus they haven't been go-to producers in well over a decade). With the budget they had for this album, if they went after major producers, they would have gotten 1 or 2 tracks and spent all the Kickstarter money. There was no way they were ever going to be working with the majors on this project.
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 4, 2017 12:24:17 GMT -5
Janet's last album had a production budget of 250k. I'm sure more money was spent on promo, videos, etc. So what did TLC really do with this money? I really missed my calling with A&R because I could've come up with 12 better songs than what they put out. Way Back is classic TLC and that's it. Janet probably benefited from her long-term relationship with Jimmy & Terry in terms of what that album cost (plus they haven't been go-to producers in well over a decade). With the budget they had for this album, if they went after major producers, they would have gotten 1 or 2 tracks and spent all the Kickstarter money. There was no way they were ever going to be working with the majors on this project. TLC didn't need to go with any hot new producers. They could've done well with some classic producers like Jimmy & Terry, Babyface, Dallas Austin, even Jermaine Durpi to give them the updates classic TLC sound. I'm certain they could've worked within a reasonable budget as independent artists. Based off the legacy of TLC I believe some people would've done favors for them. This album sounds like it was literally produced by a group of high school kids. They wasted that kick starter money and probably spent it all on Jimmy Iovine who hasn't been relevant in ages.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 4, 2017 13:27:41 GMT -5
TLC didn't need to go with any hot new producers. They could've done well with some classic producers like Jimmy & Terry, Babyface, Dallas Austin, even Jermaine Durpi to give them the updates classic TLC sound. I'm certain they could've worked within a reasonable budget as independent artists. Based off the legacy of TLC I believe some people would've done favors for them. This album sounds like it was literally produced by a group of high school kids. They wasted that kick starter money and probably spent it all on Jimmy Iovine who hasn't been relevant in ages. Do you actually think Babyface,Dallas and Dupri are cheap? Dallas was part of the plan but apparently for some reason they couldn't sync recording schedules. The favors thing CLEARLY didn't work for them. People can run their mouth but back out when the time comes to walk the talk. Drake and his bitch ass could've helped them. J Cole was also a no show. The only person that did them a favor was Snoop. And they worked with Ron Fair NOT Jimmy Iovine but i agree that it was a mistake.
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 4, 2017 13:39:03 GMT -5
TLC didn't need to go with any hot new producers. They could've done well with some classic producers like Jimmy & Terry, Babyface, Dallas Austin, even Jermaine Durpi to give them the updates classic TLC sound. I'm certain they could've worked within a reasonable budget as independent artists. Based off the legacy of TLC I believe some people would've done favors for them. This album sounds like it was literally produced by a group of high school kids. They wasted that kick starter money and probably spent it all on Jimmy Iovine who hasn't been relevant in ages. Do you actually think Babyface,Dallas and Dupri are cheap? Dallas was part of the plan but apparently for some reason they couldn't sync recording schedules. The favors thing CLEARLY didn't work for them. People can run their mouth but back out when the time comes to walk the talk. Drake and his bitch ass could've helped them. J Cole was also a no show. The only person that did them a favor was Snoop. And they worked with Ron Fair NOT Jimmy Iovine but i agree that it was a mistake. Considering the fact that Dupri, Babyface and Dallas haven't produced hits in years. I'm certain they aren't charging top dollar as if it's 1998. Jermaine Dupri is peddling a teen reality show on Lifetime, so he clearly has time and needs the coin.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 13:50:49 GMT -5
Babyface is still getting plenty of work. Maybe the album/EP could have been 1 Babyface track and 3 by T-Boz's brother if they went that route...
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 4, 2017 13:59:00 GMT -5
I could've pulled better talent off of Soundcloud, but maybe they just don't have an ear for that anymore...
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Jul 4, 2017 14:18:38 GMT -5
This whole thing was promising at first, but need at the turnout. The major deal was def needed, the product would've most likely sounded better. Didn't the Epic thing fall through?
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 4, 2017 14:24:21 GMT -5
I'd like to know how much D'Mile cost because he nailed the 2017 sound for them perfectly and could've done the whole album much more justice.
Production Credits:
No Introduction produced by Charles Dunlap, Joshua "Tipz" Richardson and Cory "Knotch" Marks
Way Back produced by Dernst "D'Mile" Emile II
It's Sunny produced by Ron Fair
Haters produced by busbee
Perfect Girls produced by Carnoy "Ayo Kato" Watkins, David "Davey Remix" Reed and Desmond "Motown" Washington
Interlude produced by Desmond Peterson
Start a Fire produced by Carnoy "Ayo Kato" Watkins
American Gold produced by Carnoy "Ayo Kato" Watkins
Scandalous produced by Cory Mo
Aye Muthafucka produced by Dre Phantom
Joy Ride produced by Cory "Knotch" Marks and Joshua "Tipz" Richardson
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 4, 2017 14:47:01 GMT -5
I'm most disappointed in Ron Fair and busbee, especially busbee after the amazing work he gave me on Maren Morris' album. MoZella being involved on that basic ass track makes it all the more difficult to stomach. That's where the production budget went.
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Post by Rican@ on Jul 4, 2017 15:22:38 GMT -5
I would have thought that Dallas would have lend a track or two for Chili's babydaddy, but I guess not.
However, those whom they worked with in the past are still doing things so I won't be too quick to knock them to say TLC would have been able to afford them. Nevertheless, with the effort of this album was supposed to be meant to be for fans, T-Boz and Chilli should have pushed for earlier producers to be on this instead of others. It didn't matter how long it took because the album was not released from the initial start anyway. I'm wondering if they even gave it a try to ask for a track or two from their earlier crew though (even though, that would be on their manager's part to ensure something like that happening).
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Post by think pink. on Jul 4, 2017 22:52:14 GMT -5
Chilli hitting up y'all's local Best Buy & Target making sure you buy the album. brandygif.mp3
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 4, 2017 23:26:02 GMT -5
Well, I love her commitment after T-Boz has already sent in the vocals...again.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 5, 2017 2:56:03 GMT -5
I'm most disappointed in Ron Fair and busbee, especially busbee after the amazing work he gave me on Maren Morris' album. MoZella being involved on that basic ass track makes it all the more difficult to stomach. That's where the production budget went. I was wondering if busbee and MoZella were even aware their 3 year old track wound up in TLC's hands since it sounds like all they did was erase the original vocals and sing over the instrumental.
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Post by bat1990 on Jul 5, 2017 7:17:41 GMT -5
I love the album so far, though I agree some of the production sounds cheap in places.
"No Introduction," "It's Sunny," "Haterz," and "Perfect Girls" all keep getting stuck in my head.
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Post by Sir Benji on Jul 5, 2017 8:25:40 GMT -5
I'm most disappointed in Ron Fair and busbee, especially busbee after the amazing work he gave me on Maren Morris' album. MoZella being involved on that basic ass track makes it all the more difficult to stomach. That's where the production budget went. Those are the weakest songs on the album tbh. The most current sounding tracks were produced by T-boz's brother
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Post by George on Jul 6, 2017 14:31:23 GMT -5
HDD at 79% reported in, and TLC has moved up to the #5 spot with 6,616 sold. I don't mind them coming in at #5 now (my hopes of a #1 debut stopped a few weeks ago), but I hope they can at least get #1 on the R&B chart. Based on the four albums ahead of them (Stone Sour, Imagine Dragons, Calvin Harris, Superfruit), they've got a shot! BTW, a comedy web series (Superfruit) is selling more than them?!
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 6, 2017 15:04:51 GMT -5
HDD at 79% reported in, and TLC has moved up to the #5 spot with 6,616 sold. I don't mind them coming in at #5 now (my hopes of a #1 debut stopped a few weeks ago), but I hope they can at least get #1 on the R&B chart. Based on the four albums ahead of them (Stone Sour, Imagine Dragons, Calvin Harris, Superfruit), they've got a shot! BTW, a comedy web series (Superfruit) is selling more than them?! That doesn't mean that they will come in at #5. Cuz one of the HDD charts has them nowhere in the top 20. Seriously its a tragic way to end a legacy.
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 6, 2017 21:14:38 GMT -5
The moment for them to release new music has passed. The biopic was the time to do it. They always miss the boat.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 7, 2017 0:07:58 GMT -5
Those sales I know the album is basic, but I'm loving it so much lol.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jul 7, 2017 10:55:15 GMT -5
So are the hipsters over at Pitchfork. I was pleasantly surprised at their review!
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