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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 7, 2017 10:57:38 GMT -5
So are the hipsters over at Pitchfork. I was pleasantly surprised at their review! Does it even matter...all these reviews and love hasnt translated into sales. Heck even their biggest fan group has 40000 fans so you can imagine that not even half of them bought the album. :'(
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Post by Leigh on Jul 7, 2017 11:13:17 GMT -5
How were the digital albums given via Kickstarter donations delivered? I'm assuming these won't be counted by Billboard?
The biggest hurdle for me as a fan was that TLC themselves didn't seem particularly excited by the album. It's hard for me to buy into an album when the artist themselves don't seem to be either. If TLC had managed to get me excited and hyped before I'd even heard any music beyond Way Back, I would have had the album pre-ordered and they would have had my sale. They just didn't manage to make me care enough.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 7, 2017 11:51:48 GMT -5
How were the digital albums given via Kickstarter donations delivered? I'm assuming these won't be counted by Billboard? They won't but their sales total would only increase by 4,201 assuming every individual who contributed to the Kickstarter received a copy of the album.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 7, 2017 11:53:15 GMT -5
How were the digital albums given via Kickstarter donations delivered? I'm assuming these won't be counted by Billboard? They won't but their sales total would only increase by 4,201 assuming every individual who contributed to the Kickstarter received a copy of the album. Dont be too sure. De La Soul's Kickstarter albums were counted so there's a chance TLC's might be too. And every album counts at this point.
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Post by George on Jul 7, 2017 14:57:19 GMT -5
How were the digital albums given via Kickstarter donations delivered? I'm assuming these won't be counted by Billboard? They sent out an e-mail with a special download link that could only be redeemed once...as I tried it on two different computers.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 7, 2017 15:09:15 GMT -5
How were the digital albums given via Kickstarter donations delivered? I'm assuming these won't be counted by Billboard? They sent out an e-mail with a special download link that could only be redeemed once...as I tried it on two different computers. LOL. Really? I got two emails for some reason.
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Post by Zinc. on Jul 7, 2017 17:16:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 17:22:13 GMT -5
Those sales are abysmal by any definition. I would have considered it even somewhat of a success if it managed 20k, but those numbers for a comeback album for one of the biggest groups of all time is awful.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 7, 2017 17:30:53 GMT -5
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Post by blisslife on Jul 7, 2017 21:03:42 GMT -5
Those sales are abysmal by any definition. I would have considered it even somewhat of a success if it managed 20k, but those numbers for a comeback album for one of the biggest groups of all time is awful. I don't consider this a "comeback" album. The fans pushed for a reunion and raised funds via Kickstarter. T-Boz and Chilli's efforts just wasn't quite there. The brainchild behind the group is no longer with us. T-Boz and Chilli took a chance on this album. They felt as though they owed the fans something after so many years.
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Post by Zinc. on Jul 8, 2017 1:14:05 GMT -5
http://instagram.com/p/BWEaN_KjUlM I'm actually excited her solo project. She got Yonni on board. That's who they should've recruited when they decided to do this independently. He's a great producer.
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Post by George on Jul 8, 2017 2:54:05 GMT -5
They sent out an e-mail with a special download link that could only be redeemed once...as I tried it on two different computers. LOL. Really? I got two emails for some reason. Oh, one of those two might've been the special "Kickstarter gift" they gave the fans...which was a separate download link to get the Re-Recorded bonus tracks and the "Creep (CID Remix)."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 6:35:13 GMT -5
I wonder how things would have played out if they closed the TLC chapter after FanMail and T-Boz and Chilli released solo debuts in 2002-2004 instead. I still think Chilli not capitalizing on the Usher attention in the early 00's (especially around the time of Confessions) is the biggest missed opportunity of any of their careers.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 8, 2017 9:26:54 GMT -5
LOL. Really? I got two emails for some reason. Oh, one of those two might've been the special "Kickstarter gift" they gave the fans...which was a separate download link to get the Re-Recorded bonus tracks and the "Creep (CID Remix)." Naaww...that was the third email. I got two emails for the album. Must be a mistake but i download both cuz i thought one of them might be in m4a format.
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 9, 2017 11:29:16 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks Tionne and Chilli come off as arrogant? It's like they are very delusional about where they stand in the industry and they feel like they don't need to adapt to the current climate. It's like they think the name TLC I going to automatically garner them success and they don't have to switch anything up.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 9, 2017 19:21:19 GMT -5
Aye muthafucka! Oh, you wanna play Aye muthafucka! Oh, don't run away (run away) Givin' you no time a day I just turn and walk away, yeah Before you make me 38 I just look at you and say Aye muthafucka!
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Post by Jay D83 on Jul 9, 2017 22:00:40 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks Tionne and Chilli come off as arrogant? It's like they are very delusional about where they stand in the industry and they feel like they don't need to adapt to the current climate. It's like they think the name TLC I going to automatically garner them success and they don't have to switch anything up. I believe that as well.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 9, 2017 22:39:51 GMT -5
They seem more lazy than anything tbh.
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Jul 9, 2017 22:39:55 GMT -5
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Jul 9, 2017 22:44:18 GMT -5
They seem more lazy than anything tbh. I think that at this point they are just on two different pages. Tionne wants to write, record, do her charity events, be visible on stupid reality shows, and NOT tour. Chilli wants nothing to do with the creative, and if she HAS to do the TLC thing, she wants to relive the glory days on the 90s. She really should have gone solo when she had the chance. They should have let the legacy rest in peace after the success of the movie. They keep beating a dead horse.
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Post by Wavey. on Jul 9, 2017 23:03:06 GMT -5
Even Chill couldn't find What Chill Wants. She might as well do some acting, or get a spot on a talk show.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 10, 2017 0:29:34 GMT -5
Chilli ain't been right since Usher.
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Post by Jay D83 on Jul 10, 2017 8:06:35 GMT -5
Even Chill couldn't find What Chill Wants. She might as well do some acting, or get a spot on a talk show.So she can be just as ig'nant as Raven Symone on the View? I'm maybe here for it. Hehe.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 10, 2017 10:30:40 GMT -5
Even Chill couldn't find What Chill Wants. She might as well do some acting, or get a spot on a talk show.So she can be just as ig'nant as Raven Symone on the View? I'm maybe here for it. Hehe. I don't need Stacey Dash back on my screen!
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 10, 2017 11:30:10 GMT -5
Gameproof deserved so much better but Chilli couldn't get over the fact that no major label out there was willing to offer her a non-360 deal so she sunk her own solo ship.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 10, 2017 12:19:37 GMT -5
Gameproof deserved so much better but Chilli couldn't get over the fact that no major label out there was willing to offer her a non-360 deal so she sunk her own solo ship. She worked with all of them major producers for nothing. Could've scrapped some of them tracks for this album.
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 10, 2017 12:36:50 GMT -5
Gameproof deserved so much better but Chilli couldn't get over the fact that no major label out there was willing to offer her a non-360 deal so she sunk her own solo ship. My point exactly. Delusional and arrogant.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 10, 2017 16:13:04 GMT -5
Given what she went through in the 90's though I don't blame her for not wanting to sign a 360 deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 17:56:14 GMT -5
I don't get "delusional" from T-Boz nearly as much as Chilli. I about died when she went into that Wal Mart semi-undercover thinking she'd surprise the salesperson, and it looked more like the salesperson was wondering who the hell this random woman was behind her with a camera. The difference between how they were regarded at the turn of the Millennium ("THE BIGGEST GIRL GROUP OF ALL TIME," "INNOVATORS," etc) and now is drastic. I feel like now they're just tossed in the 90's legacy act bucket with groups like Boyz II Men. The only other 80's/90's artist I can think of who had such a turn in goodwill and regard for their legacy is Janet, and I think she somewhat repaired that in the past few years. Pretty much everything TLC has done since Left Eye died has been mismanaged.
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Post by Wavey. on Jul 10, 2017 18:34:35 GMT -5
Left Eye was defintley the majority of the thinking tank.
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