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Post by tamed09 on Mar 23, 2018 4:00:01 GMT -5
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Post by Unhinged on Mar 23, 2018 7:54:33 GMT -5
Been revisitng FanMail lately. Forgot how much I enjoyed that album. I was graduating high school that year (1999 ya'll) and I'll never forget when "Silly Ho" came out and me and my friends geeked out over it. Then they hit with "No Scrubs" and we were toast. "If They Knew" and "Shout" were my go-to jams. Great album.
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Post by George on Apr 20, 2018 11:46:32 GMT -5
Two random thoughts today I had about TLC:
1. Anyone remember the reason why Left Eye's rap on "No Scrubs" was only on the single/video version and not the album? Did she not record her rap on time for the album's deadline, or did they think the song needed something more when chosen as a single. 2. "Quickie" was the original lead single for 3D right? I somewhat have a vague memory of AOL having a banner for it that they were going to premiere it but then at the last moment they premiered "Girl Talk" on the day of.
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Post by SHOOTER on Apr 20, 2018 13:39:25 GMT -5
Tionne had commented in the past that Lisa wasn't showing up to sessions when they recorded the album so that's most likely why her verse was tacked-on after the fact.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Apr 20, 2018 13:49:35 GMT -5
Two random thoughts today I had about TLC: 2. "Quickie" was the original lead single for 3D right? I somewhat have a vague memory of AOL having a banner for it that they were going to premiere it but then at the last moment they premiered "Girl Talk" on the day of. Yes Quickie was supposed to be the first single and then out of the blue they premiered Girl Talk. GT was a better option but frankly none were good first single material. I am kinda sad that its been almost 16, time flies so quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 14:32:04 GMT -5
Tionne had commented in the past that Lisa wasn't showing up to sessions when they recorded the album so that's most likely why her verse was tacked-on after the fact. Lowkey I think there's more to that/a reason why Left eye was blowing them off. Kevin Briggs, the producer, made the decision to give the entire lead vocal to Chilli (the first time that ever happened), and said he "had some resistance" from T-Boz and Left Eye about that but they eventually worked it out. Looking at the release schedule at the time - Silly Ho as a promo single in December 1998 / No Scrubs released to radio 2-2-99 / Fanmail released 2-23-99 - Left Eye's verse was almost surely done before the album was pressed. Interestingly enough they even used the album version for the CD single in April; the single mix only appeared on vinyl. Keep in mind that this is also around the time the the group was having internal issues b/c Chilli was dating Dallas Austin, and Austin wanted to take over the direction of the album. The only thing I can't recall for sure is whether Left Eye's verse was on the version first sent to radio, or if it was not heard until the video aired in March. I'm pretty sure it was the former though. The vinyl is labeled "main mix" while the CD is "album version." So I'm thinking Austin (and by extension whoever he was picking to help him out) was trying to give his babymama the Beyonce treatment, the other two were not having it (Lisa to the point of not showing up to the studio), and it took a lot of compromising to make all the members happy. T-Boz got the lead part on the promo single, although lowkey I side eye this and wonder if Austin was trying to play T-Boz knowing that that Chilli was on the planned smash. Left Eye didn't appear on Silly Ho at all, so she got a part on the single version of No Scrubs, which from a performance perspective would sell the song better and was probably the only way to get her on any of the intended singles. Chilli still got to have No Scrubs all to herself on the album and for the most part the physical single (plus having a rap-free version meant she was the only voice heard on some stations), which I guess was enough for her to feel like it was 'her' song.
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Post by SHOOTER on Apr 20, 2018 21:52:43 GMT -5
Leave it to Cynthia!! Everything you said made perfect sense. Lisa was also starting to work on her solo material at that time so her attention was already a bit diverted and I’m sure those behind the scenes antics only fueled her motivation not to attend TLC sessions.
I also vividly remember when 92.3 The Beat premiered No Scrubs and it was the solo Chilli version; I personally didn’t hear Lisa’s rap until the video dropped and am still pissed we didn’t have her rap on the album nor could we buy it via the CD single.
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Post by George on Apr 25, 2018 16:39:24 GMT -5
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Post by tamed09 on Apr 25, 2018 20:39:40 GMT -5
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Post by Resident_Evil on Apr 25, 2018 22:39:05 GMT -5
R.I.P Lisa. I hope you are in the heaven of your choice and finally at peace. Cannot believe it's been 16 years, time's a biyatch.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 27, 2018 9:47:56 GMT -5
Tionne had commented in the past that Lisa wasn't showing up to sessions when they recorded the album so that's most likely why her verse was tacked-on after the fact. Lowkey I think there's more to that/a reason why Left eye was blowing them off. Kevin Briggs, the producer, made the decision to give the entire lead vocal to Chilli (the first time that ever happened), and said he "had some resistance" from T-Boz and Left Eye about that but they eventually worked it out. Looking at the release schedule at the time - Silly Ho as a promo single in December 1998 / No Scrubs released to radio 2-2-99 / Fanmail released 2-23-99 - Left Eye's verse was almost surely done before the album was pressed. Interestingly enough they even used the album version for the CD single in April; the single mix only appeared on vinyl. Keep in mind that this is also around the time the the group was having internal issues b/c Chilli was dating Dallas Austin, and Austin wanted to take over the direction of the album. The only thing I can't recall for sure is whether Left Eye's verse was on the version first sent to radio, or if it was not heard until the video aired in March. I'm pretty sure it was the former though. The vinyl is labeled "main mix" while the CD is "album version." So I'm thinking Austin (and by extension whoever he was picking to help him out) was trying to give his babymama the Beyonce treatment, the other two were not having it (Lisa to the point of not showing up to the studio), and it took a lot of compromising to make all the members happy. T-Boz got the lead part on the promo single, although lowkey I side eye this and wonder if Austin was trying to play T-Boz knowing that that Chilli was on the planned smash. Left Eye didn't appear on Silly Ho at all, so she got a part on the single version of No Scrubs, which from a performance perspective would sell the song better and was probably the only way to get her on any of the intended singles. Chilli still got to have No Scrubs all to herself on the album and for the most part the physical single (plus having a rap-free version meant she was the only voice heard on some stations), which I guess was enough for her to feel like it was 'her' song. I guess it would be interesting to hear T-Boz on the song, but it just seems tailor made for Chili and works the way it is. Plus Tionne had hits like “Creep” where she was essentially the only vocalist.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Apr 27, 2018 9:59:00 GMT -5
Lowkey I think there's more to that/a reason why Left eye was blowing them off. Kevin Briggs, the producer, made the decision to give the entire lead vocal to Chilli (the first time that ever happened), and said he "had some resistance" from T-Boz and Left Eye about that but they eventually worked it out. Looking at the release schedule at the time - Silly Ho as a promo single in December 1998 / No Scrubs released to radio 2-2-99 / Fanmail released 2-23-99 - Left Eye's verse was almost surely done before the album was pressed. Interestingly enough they even used the album version for the CD single in April; the single mix only appeared on vinyl. Keep in mind that this is also around the time the the group was having internal issues b/c Chilli was dating Dallas Austin, and Austin wanted to take over the direction of the album. The only thing I can't recall for sure is whether Left Eye's verse was on the version first sent to radio, or if it was not heard until the video aired in March. I'm pretty sure it was the former though. The vinyl is labeled "main mix" while the CD is "album version." So I'm thinking Austin (and by extension whoever he was picking to help him out) was trying to give his babymama the Beyonce treatment, the other two were not having it (Lisa to the point of not showing up to the studio), and it took a lot of compromising to make all the members happy. T-Boz got the lead part on the promo single, although lowkey I side eye this and wonder if Austin was trying to play T-Boz knowing that that Chilli was on the planned smash. Left Eye didn't appear on Silly Ho at all, so she got a part on the single version of No Scrubs, which from a performance perspective would sell the song better and was probably the only way to get her on any of the intended singles. Chilli still got to have No Scrubs all to herself on the album and for the most part the physical single (plus having a rap-free version meant she was the only voice heard on some stations), which I guess was enough for her to feel like it was 'her' song. I guess it would be interesting to hear T-Boz on the song, but it just seems tailor made for Chili and works the way it is. Plus Tionne had hits like “Creep” where she was essentially the only vocalist. ...and Debra Killings
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 27, 2018 10:00:36 GMT -5
Well played.
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Post by George on Apr 30, 2018 12:17:00 GMT -5
For some reason, I either never knew or completely forgot that Left Eye recorded a new rap for the "Unpretty (Don't Look No Further Remix)."
I remember that remix being on the CD single, but I don't remember it having a rap. Plus, whenever I thought about a rap for the song, I always thought of her verse in "I'm Good at Being Bad" since that was used in her segment of the music video.
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Post by George on May 4, 2018 13:05:07 GMT -5
For a second there, I thought Chilli was finally releasing some new solo material:
Can’t believe it’s been two years since “Body”:
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Post by 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 on May 6, 2018 13:03:31 GMT -5
Been revisitng FanMail lately. Forgot how much I enjoyed that album. I was graduating high school that year (1999 ya'll) and I'll never forget when "Silly Ho" came out and me and my friends geeked out over it. Then they hit with "No Scrubs" and we were toast. "If They Knew" and "Shout" were my go-to jams. Great album. Yeah, I was in 5th grade when it came out, and I remember this girl listening to it in class.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 18, 2018 23:20:05 GMT -5
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Post by George on Jun 26, 2018 21:54:23 GMT -5
T-Boz was recently on the Steve Harvey Show:
Meanwhile, Chilli announced she’ll be moderating the Siren panel at San Diego Comic Con this year:
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Post by George on Jun 28, 2018 14:12:09 GMT -5
CyberTLC still exists in YouTube form?!
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jun 28, 2018 19:24:19 GMT -5
After all that Chris and CyberTLC did for the girls, this is how they repay. TLC Army are nothing but a bunch of crazed, kissass groupies but i guess T&C like to be surrounded by such people.
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Post by tamed09 on Jun 28, 2018 22:34:48 GMT -5
T-Boz is recording records with Jovan Dawkins for an untitled project
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Post by George on Jul 3, 2018 13:27:25 GMT -5
They're looking to the fans for input on what should the next single be:
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 3, 2018 13:46:26 GMT -5
and Way Back has 13% of the votes.
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Post by George on Jul 11, 2018 15:02:22 GMT -5
They're performing this weekend at San Diego Pride with JoJo as the other headliner!
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Post by George on Jul 13, 2018 14:06:33 GMT -5
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Post by George on Jul 16, 2018 16:44:27 GMT -5
Their setlist from last night:
What About Your Friends Ain't 2 Proud 2 Beg Diggin' on You Silly Ho Red Light Special Baby-Baby-Baby Haters Unpretty TLC Dancer Dance Break Creep It's Sunny FanMail Way Back No Scrubs Joyride Waterfalls
I would've replaced "FanMail" "Haters" and "Joyride" since the crowd grew silent during these sections. I hope they add "Meant to Be" to their setlist again, as I think a lot of their younger audiences may know that more because of the biopic. I wouldn't have minded if they had done "No Introduction" or even "American Gold" if they wanted to promote the latest album.
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