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Post by George on Jul 18, 2018 23:01:47 GMT -5
I didn’t realize she recorded another solo song to promote the book:
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jul 23, 2018 18:33:57 GMT -5
Annoying. They asked her specifically about SWV, not about all girl groups, she should have addressed the question.
I am sure if they were asked, "Are you a Montell Jordan fan?" they would have been like "Oh yeah, we love all male artists; Kenny Chesney, Garth Brooks, Elvis, anybody out there doing it I love them." :eyeroll:
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 24, 2018 0:35:56 GMT -5
Annoying. They asked her specifically about SWV, not about all girl groups, she should have addressed the question. I am sure if they were asked, "Are you a Montell Jordan fan?" they would have been like "Oh yeah, we love all male artists; Kenny Chesney, Garth Brooks, Elvis, anybody out there doing it I love them." :eyeroll: That was here nice way of saying I don't really F with them, so I'm going to keep it neutral. SWV has made a few statements that came off questionable regarding TLC about not understanding why they didn't get as many awards or accolades. So I'm sure Tionne doesn't see it for them at all.
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Post by Zinc. on Jul 24, 2018 8:25:22 GMT -5
This is a typical TLC answer. Plus it's no secret a lot of the R&B girl groups from their heyday didn't use each other. SWV wasn't as creative, visually imaginative or artistic like TLC. They have no memorable or groundbreaking videos. Even their producer noted their look, image, etc. While their music was great, they never pushed the envelope sonically.
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Post by Caviar on Jul 24, 2018 8:38:02 GMT -5
Please do not come for SWV like they weren't highly influential during the 90s.
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Post by cjay on Jul 24, 2018 8:51:08 GMT -5
I really like SWV, but their impact/influence is not as big as TLC's or even envouge. SWV's first album was killer, but they kinda fumbled on subsequent releases.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 24, 2018 9:04:02 GMT -5
Please do not come for SWV like they weren't highly influential during the 90s. Uhhhh...they weren't.
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Post by Zinc. on Jul 24, 2018 11:14:31 GMT -5
SWV were influential. They were a part of that New Jack Swing movement but their impact/influence is not as deep as TLC's or En Vogue's.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jul 24, 2018 17:30:28 GMT -5
Neither of them compare to 702.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 18:49:37 GMT -5
Everyone knows MoKenStef is the best girl group of the 90's
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Post by allow that on Jul 24, 2018 19:15:37 GMT -5
I really like SWV, but their impact/influence is not as big as TLC's or even envouge. SWV's first album was killer, but they kinda fumbled on subsequent releases. TLC is the most influential R&B girl group of all time (yes, even more so than Destiny's Child unless you include Bey's entire solo career) but SWV is clearly the next biggest of the 90's. Much more so than En Vogue.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jul 24, 2018 19:38:12 GMT -5
Everyone knows MoKenStef is the best girl group of the 90's lol “He’s Mine” was a jam but that was their only hit!
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 24, 2018 21:01:17 GMT -5
I really like SWV, but their impact/influence is not as big as TLC's or even envouge. SWV's first album was killer, but they kinda fumbled on subsequent releases. TLC is the most influential R&B girl group of all time (yes, even more so than Destiny's Child unless you include Bey's entire solo career) but SWV is clearly the next biggest of the 90's. Much more so than En Vogue. LMAO in what alternate universe?
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jul 24, 2018 21:07:04 GMT -5
Yeah, there is no world where SWV was bigger than En Vogue. Not in terms of iconic songs, iconic videos, pop charts, R&B charts, performances, album sales, impact at their peaks. En Vogue tapped into such a huge cultural moment with Funky Divas. As successful as SWV's debut was, it just wasn't as big as that era. Not trying to discount SWV's success, but as someone who was there and stanned through both of their peaks, it's not even close.
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Post by Zinc. on Jul 24, 2018 22:18:47 GMT -5
Yeah En Vogue was definitely more successful commercially.
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Post by stunnedout on Jul 25, 2018 0:32:41 GMT -5
Yeah, there is no world where SWV was bigger than En Vogue. Not in terms of iconic songs, iconic videos, pop charts, R&B charts, performances, album sales, impact at their peaks. En Vogue tapped into such a huge cultural moment with Funky Divas. As successful as SWV's debut was, it just wasn't as big as that era. Not trying to discount SWV's success, but as someone who was there and stanned through both of their peaks, it's not even close. Yasss. I think the Funky Divas album may have turned me gay, LOL. The Pepsi commercials, endorsements, they lived on MTV, the iconic performances, theme songs, television show appearances. They were literally EVERYWHERE.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 25, 2018 7:43:22 GMT -5
Salt N Pepa called...and they said 'bitch En Vogue who?'.
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Post by cjay on Jul 25, 2018 7:53:47 GMT -5
Yeah SWV's influence/impact is not that clear. At times I'm willing to put Xscape above them.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jul 25, 2018 8:00:28 GMT -5
Salt N Pepa called...and they said 'bitch En Vogue who?'. And then they took their meds and were like, "oh yeah, that group that helped us land the biggest hit of our career. Now what the f**k is a Lelee and Taj?"
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Post by R.K. on Jul 25, 2018 8:00:44 GMT -5
Yeah SWV's influence/impact is not that clear. At times I'm willing to put Xscape above them. OK let's not get crazy here.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jul 25, 2018 8:08:24 GMT -5
Yeah SWV's influence/impact is not that clear. At times I'm willing to put Xscape above them. OK let's not get crazy here. I think that's pushing it too. Musically, SWV was more impactful at the time. That double shot of SWV and TLC in 92 laid the groundwork for Xscape to even exist in 93. En Vogue really busted open the door, but they were the classy/classic group while SWV and TLC were the more round-the-way girls. The exact template that Xscape used. That being said, I feel like the individual members of Xscape have managed to maintain their celebrity and relevancy far longer than anyone in SWV. Which allowed that little reunion of theirs to be a bigger deal than SWV's reunion. But musically, no, I don't think they're at SWV's level (even though they did manage a steady stream of platinum albums and hits).
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Post by Zinc. on Jul 25, 2018 8:10:18 GMT -5
Salt N Pepa are rap though.
And I wouldn't place Xscape above SWV.
Personally, for me the trinity for R&B girl groups were TLC, En Vogue, and SWV. They were the most consistent and redefine the R&B genre.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 25, 2018 8:18:36 GMT -5
Salt N Pepa called...and they said 'bitch En Vogue who?'. And then they took their meds and were like, "oh yeah, that group that helped us land the biggest hit of our career. Now what the f**k is a Lelee and Taj?" You mean Watta Man? The song that was an ACTUAL Salt N Peppa song with those mediocre bishes singing the hook? Oh and "Lets Talk About Sex" also called and said that it was the most influential song of the 90s till Waterfalls happened.
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Post by Resident_Evil on Jul 25, 2018 8:19:24 GMT -5
Yeah SWV's influence/impact is not that clear. At times I'm willing to put Xscape above them. OK let's not get crazy here. This is nothing. A few months ago people here were placing Xcape ahead of TLC in terms of influence and popularity.
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Post by cjay on Jul 25, 2018 10:31:40 GMT -5
OK let's not get crazy here. This is nothing. A few months ago people here were placing Xcape ahead of TLC in terms of influence and popularity. Yeah I'm not that crazy! LOL. I do agree that SWV first album era was killer and it was impactful. But I look at this as impact over time and I just feel that they didn't sustain any of that momentum. They took a HUGE dip with their New Beginnings. They kinda picked up steam with Can we and then lost it again. While I bumped Release Some Tension for months, that era had no real impact either. And while enough people like SWV, I hardly ever hear them mentioned as inspiration. TLC, EnVouge and unfortunately Destiny's Child get mentioned often. While Xscape never had a commercial effort as successful as SWV's debut, they were consistent and gained more momentum with each of their releases. They even got the attention of Mariah Carey which gave them wider exposure. Also the critical acclaim (which is subjective) seems to favors Xscape more than SWV--with the exception of SWV's first album era. So for me, SWV's influence isn't as clear. And Xscape just did really well with their ARENA tour. There comeback seems better than SWVs.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jul 25, 2018 11:43:38 GMT -5
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Post by cjay on Jul 25, 2018 12:37:33 GMT -5
What about Brownstone?!!! LMAO
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 25, 2018 12:44:35 GMT -5
The concert they filmed in the UK for Netflix called "Once In A Lifetime Sessions" is premiering on August 1st on Netflix. Great exposure for them.
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Post by Caviar on Jul 25, 2018 13:43:36 GMT -5
What about Brownstone?!!! LMAO Bitch I'm scratching my head about no one mentioning Jade!
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Post by George on Jul 25, 2018 14:02:21 GMT -5
The concert they filmed in the UK for Netflix called "Once In A Lifetime Sessions" is premiering on August 1st on Netflix. Great exposure for them. YESSSS! Can't wait to see it.
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