Martina Claims #1 For The Girls (Midweek)!

[JCMF3]

In a surprising turn of events, FFF has surrendered the #1 spot to Martina McBride's hit "This One's For The Girls"!  I don't think anyone on this board really saw this coming, but Martina was able to slide under the radar and capture the #1 spot.  Of course, she has to hold it until Sunday, but if she does - WOW!

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This definitely doesn't strike me as the track to give her her first chart topper, but okay. I don't want to say good for her, because this further confirms her selling out to country radio.

[chebingeo]

How is this selling out? This went top 10 on country last year LONG before the label released it to AC.

In related news, on the Hot AC chart, Martina debuts at #35.

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chebingeo said:

How is this selling out?  This went top 10 on country last year LONG before the label released it to AC.

In related news, on the Hot AC chart, Martina debuts at #35.

Because country starts to lose interest in artists after they begin releasing their music to other formats.

[chebingeo]

The said:

Because country starts to lose interest in artists after they begin releasing their music to other formats.

Martina has been having AC hits for several years now. She went to #1 back in 1997 with Valentine.

[WhySoSerious?]

Josh is right. Martina better watch herself.

Why am I not suprised this is #1? It's the worst single she's ever released.

[Hervard]

I don't think it's the worst single she's ever released (I don't know what that would be, since I don't listen to much of her stuff). I didn't like this song too well when it first came out, but I'm starting to like it a lot now. This has been a pretty good year in music, as far as number one songs go.

I wonder if this song will go to number one on AT10 in weeks to come?

[someguy]

I'm surprised this is the song to got #1 for her at AC. I thought for sure that "In My Daughter's Eyes" would've been the huge AC hit, not "This One's For The Girls".

[EvanJ]

Martina is only fourth in audience, so she's lucky the AC chart isn't made like the Country chart.

[tico]

I never thought of this being a #1 song, but good for Martina. Good song.

[singingsparrow]

This is not quite yet a #1 song. She must hold this track at the top for another 24 hours, and with the way the chart fluctuates wildly, Five For Fighting may keep their streak going.

Anyway, I am quite suprised to see this at #1, and not "In My Daughters Eyes" also.

What's next, "This Love" goes #1 here and not "She Will Be Loved"?

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

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The said:

Because country starts to lose interest in artists after they begin releasing their music to other formats.

I agree with The Rebirth Experience on this.  Martina is really playing both sides of the fence and talking out of both sides of her mouth.

While the remix of "This One's For the Girls" was in the top 5 of the AC charts, this article recently appeared in "Country Weekly"...

Martina nixes pop[/size]

While some country artists attempt pop crossovers, Martina McBride isn't interested. "I love country music and I love being a country artist," she reaffirms. "I don't want to be anything else. I never feel restricted by the genre of country music. I feel like I'm getting to sing exactly what I want to sing and make the kind of music I want to make. I love the lifestyle and I love the fans. I love being a country music artist and I wouldn't trade it for 15 minutes of pop fame for anything."[/B]

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MusicSTFan said:

I agree with The Rebirth Experience on this.  Martina is really playing both sides of the fence and talking out of both sides of her mouth.

While the remix of "This One's For the Girls" was in the top 5 of the AC charts, this article recently appeared in "Country Weekly"...

Martina nixes pop

[/size]

While some country artists attempt pop crossovers, Martina McBride isn't interested. "I love country music and I love being a country artist," she reaffirms. "I don't want to be anything else. I never feel restricted by the genre of country music. I feel like I'm getting to sing exactly what I want to sing and make the kind of music I want to make. I love the lifestyle and I love the fans. I love being a country music artist and I wouldn't trade it for 15 minutes of pop fame for anything."[/B][/quote]


Martina better watch out.  She is intentionally crossing over and kissing country industry butt at the same time.  She could be in for a big surprise real soon about how the industry treats people they don't like or get tired of.

Since the country industry has a new favorite with Gretchen and with Martina playing both sides of the fence, Martina could be out in the cold very soon.

The main reason Martina got Female Vocalist awards in the first place is because the industry tossed Faith aside after "Cry."  They stopped giving Faith the ACM and CMA Female Vocalist trophies and went to Martina.

Martina didn't just get those awards because of her singing talent.  She got them because the industry's former pet, Faith, started messing up by crossing over too much and then really messed up with "Cry."  So they went to the next best thing, Martina, who also happened to be Faith's friend.  Martina has had singing talent for years.  It wasn't until Faith started crossing TOO Far over that Martina first got recognized.

Martina could soon be in for the same treatment that Shania has faced for almost 10 years now and the kind of treatment that Faith got a small taste of with "Cry."

It looks like it's Gretchen's turn in the spotlight.  With Martina crossing over more & more now, the industry won't feel as 'bad' about dumping Martina to push Gretchen.

[Arson]

Martina McBride has had some minor hits on AC ("Valentine" being the biggest hit prior to "This One's For The Girls"). However, she hasn't had success on CHR/Pop as Faith Hill and Shania Twain have.

Maybe she doesn't count AC as pop?

[MusicRules]

While some country artists attempt pop crossovers, Martina McBride isn't interested. "I love country music and I love being a country artist," she reaffirms. "I don't want to be anything else. I never feel restricted by the genre of country music. I feel like I'm getting to sing exactly what I want to sing and make the kind of music I want to make. I love the lifestyle and I love the fans. I love being a country music artist and I wouldn't trade it for 15 minutes of pop fame for anything."

This sounds like one of those inane quotations from Faith Hill or LeAnn Rimes who just a few days ago said she never left country.

If I'd heard the demo of this song, I never would have guessed Martina would touch it with a 10' pole.  I thought she avoided this dreck.

How did this song get nominated for a Grammy over Concrete Angel?

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Arson said:

Martina McBride has had some minor hits on AC ("Valentine" being the biggest hit prior to "This One's For The Girls").  However, she hasn't had success on CHR/Pop as Faith Hill and Shania Twain have. 

Maybe she doesn't count AC as pop?

Either that or Martina is just kissing country industry butt like what Faith did, and what Faith will do when she returns with her new album.

Even LeAnn Rimes is doing it now.  LeAnn is crawling back to country and trying to pretend her Pop career attempt never happened.

www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040621/NEWS01/406210326/1002


I'm 100% sure Faith will do and say the same exact thing when she returns with her new album.

During the "This Kiss" and "Breathe" eras, Faith successfully crossed over and kept the Country industry happy by declaring that Country music was still her roots and that she's just a "country girl at heart."  The country industry rewarded her with praise and trophies; Faith has 14 ACM trophies and 3 CMA trophies.

{Martina is doing that exact same thing and having the same results too. Martina now has 6 Female Vocalist of the Year awards since Faith's industry pet status dropped.}

All of that changed for Faith when the "Cry" era came.  Faith told the press that "church music" was her true roots and that her fans knew that all along.  That was not a good idea.

After that, Faith was no longer the country industry's darling and award show magnet.  That role went to Martina, who just so happens to be Faith's friend.  Martina became the beneficiary of sudden praise and got a big trophy collection in the process.

Martina may be aware of Faith's 'mistake' and does not want to upset her role as the country industry's favorite child.  Plus Martina now has to compete with Gretchen for that role.

So Martina crosses over with remixes, like what Faith did, but Martina is sure to profess her love for the country industry in the press as much as possible.

The only question remains is What happens to Martina when Faith comes back with a new album and her "country roots" stories?  Faith will act like she never left and will once again claim that Country music is her roots, which are both things LeAnn is doing right now.

If the country industry buys into Faith's story, Martina's days as the industry's pet are gone.  Martina knows that.  That is probably why she is doing remixes and still kissing country industry butt.

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MusicRules said:

This sounds like one of those inane quotations from Faith Hill or LeAnn Rimes who just a few days ago said she never left country.

Exactly right.

For someone so young, LeAnn seems to have quite a selective memory and a little bit of an ego too.

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I have no doubt that Faith will go back to her "I'm just a Country girl at heart" routine when it comes time to promote her new album.  It worked during the "The Kiss" and "Breathe" eras.  I'm not sure how it will work now after "Cry" and her "church music" roots declaration.

Martina is just like them.  She's kissing butt to keep her golden child status in the Country industry.

If I'd heard the demo of this song, I never would have guessed Martina would touch it with a 10' pole.  I thought she avoided this dreck.

How did this song get nominated for a Grammy over Concrete Angel?

Well it is not that shocking.

The Faith Hill song "The Way You Love Me" received a Grammy nomination for Female Country Vocal Performance alongside "Breathe" in 2001.

Not to mention that Faith was awarded a Grammy in 2003 for "Cry" in the Female Country Vocal Performance category.

So Martina's nomination for "This One's For the Girls" is not that much of a stretch.

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Gretchen has already released her "ready for the party" song or whatever it's called to chr/pop.

MusicSTFan said:

Martina better watch out. She is intentionally crossing over and kissing country industry butt at the same time. She could be in for a big surprise real soon about how the industry treats people they don't like or get tired of.

Since the country industry has a new favorite with Gretchen and with Martina playing both sides of the fence, Martina could be out in the cold very soon.

The main reason Martina got Female Vocalist awards in the first place is because the industry tossed Faith aside after "Cry." They stopped giving Faith the ACM and CMA Female Vocalist trophies and went to Martina.

Martina didn't just get those awards because of her singing talent. She got them because the industry's former pet, Faith, started messing up by crossing over too much and then really messed up with "Cry." So they went to the next best thing, Martina, who also happened to be Faith's friend. Martina has had singing talent for years. It wasn't until Faith started crossing TOO Far over that Martina first got recognized.

Martina could soon be in for the same treatment that Shania has faced for almost 10 years now and the kind of treatment that Faith got a small taste of with "Cry."

It looks like it's Gretchen's turn in the spotlight. With Martina crossing over more & more now, the industry won't feel as 'bad' about dumping Martina to push Gretchen.

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smack said:

Gretchen has already released her "ready for the party" song or whatever it's called to chr/pop.

True.  Plus her video is already being shipped to VH1 and Gretchen is posing for the very non-country "Blender" magazine.

That doesn't matter though.

Gretchen is the current 'chosen one' in Nashville right now.  Everything she does will be loved and praised by Nashville...until they get tired of her or until she goes 'too far' in their eyes.  Then the next favorite will come along.

The same thing happened with Faith Hill and Martina.  Look at the pattern...

From the "It's Your Love" era in 1997/1998 to about June of 2001, Faith became the 'chosen one.'  Her favored status peaked in 1999 and continued through June of 2001.

From 2002 through 2004, Martina was the 'chosen one.'

Between those two, Lee Ann Womack became big with "I Hope You Dance" and was thisclose to becoming the 'chosen one,' but she messed up.  Lee Ann even managed to pick up the CMA Female Vocalist trophy in November of 2001.  Her "Something Worth Leaving Behind" single & album flopped and that opened the door wide open for Martina.

Martina's "Greatest Hits" album is what put her in 'chosen one' position.  With Faith off working on the "Pearl Harbor" stuff, going to Hollywood events, and doing her "Cry" album, the country industry needed a favorite.  ...and then Martina comes out with an album of her old hits in 2001.  Suddenly Nashville thinks she's some HUGE star.  It's funny because, except for 1 time in 1999, the country industry didn't seem to really even notice Martina existed until Faith was off of Nashville's radar.  Suddenly the country industry started acting like Martina is the greatest vocalist ever, just like how they treated Faith.

Then after Martina's "Greatest Hits" album, the "Martina" album comes out.  She gets more awards and praise.  Then she starts crossing over with REMIXES and continues to praise the country industry in the press.  Sounds pretty familiar to Faith's situation too, doesn't it?

Nashville had no problem with Faith crossing over with remixes for the longest time too.  She kept getting praise and a lot of awards from the country industry.  Then she went too far with "Cry" and that was the end of her 'chosen one' status.

Now Martina is the 'chosen one' and she's the one kissing up to the industry and crossing over with remixes.

It's funny that Shania Twain is the only crossover artist that the industry seems to have had a problem with from the beginning and continues to snub.  Shania has had to face their wrath and be virtually ignored at every award show for almost 10 years now.  It's funny that Faith, Martina and now Gretchen are getting praise and awards for the same things that Shania gets slammed for doing.

In the end, it won't matter.  Gretchen will knock Martina out of the 'chosen one' spot, if she hasn't already, and there will be another artist down the line that will be anointed 'chosen one' status after Gretchen is gone from Nashville's radar.

The game never ends.  Only the 'players' [artists] change. 

[WhySoSerious?]

LOL, "the chosen one". It sounds like The Matrix.

[bambas]

TCorey said:

LOL, "the chosen one".  It sounds like The Matrix.

Or maybe the Highlander

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TCorey said:

LOL, "the chosen one".  It sounds like The Matrix.

LOL!

[Hervard]

Well, on the latest update, Martina is just seven spins away from FFF. She could take the top spot yet - on a final update, that is!

[EvanJ]

Martina is Number 1 on Billboard Adult Contemporary.
Edit: Billboard Chart Beat Bonus

'GIRLS' POWER: The turnover rate for No. 1 songs on Billboard's Adult Contemporary chart has sped up this year, with more titles reaching the top in 2004 than any other year in this millennium.

The latest occupant of AC pole position is Martina McBride's "This One's for the Girls" (RCA). It's McBride's first AC chart-topper and the sixth song to advance to No. 1 in 2004.

[jmason]

At least Shania can put sell Martina and Faith Hill even if she only get a #1 on AC!!!

POP does that to take for example The Calling, or John Mayer and of course they have done that to all the older artist to

[someguy]

Cograts to Martina - #1 on both Billboard & R&R. Wonder if they'll push anything else from this album to AC. I think both "In My Daughter's Eyes" and "How Far" would be hits, especially IMDE.

[smack]

I have seen IMDE get the most adds a few times as well as biggest increase in spins if I remember correctly. I wonder too if they will promote that.
Mike

someguy said:

Cograts to Martina - #1 on both Billboard & R&R.  Wonder if they'll push anything else from this album to AC.  I think both "In My Daughter's Eyes" and "How Far" would be hits, especially IMDE.

[nashville22]

First of STfan, you are getting a little carried away. Shania was the first to have huge crossover success and not one female country artist has ever or ever will have the enormous success of Shania. Shania's COO numbers are staggering, she sold twice as much as Faith and Shania became a huge worldwide star. Don't worry about Martina, she is small player. Gretchen Wilson has zero mainstream appeal and will be stuck in her redneck gimmick for good.
Everyone knows why they hate Shania, that is Nashville problem not Shania's. Shania has shown class everywhere she has gone. Shania is in a league of her own because she started this whole trend and because she set a standard that not one person can match.