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Post by Junkiex on Jan 8, 2010 11:27:21 GMT -5
Actually, Obsessed peaked about 3 weeks before the album came out, at least on Rhy and Urb. It peaked on CHR later, but not its overall AI.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jan 8, 2010 11:47:38 GMT -5
Actually, Obsessed peaked about 3 weeks before the album came out, at least on Rhy and Urb. It peaked on CHR later, but not its overall AI. By the time the album was released any momentum Obsessed had built up was dwindling away; the song took forever to take off and was already in the process of heavy decline (for the most part) when the album was released. That was my point. ;)
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Post by r.enato on Jan 8, 2010 11:51:17 GMT -5
Yeah, it went to radio on June. It wouldn't help sell the album by the end of September.
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Post by Bojangles on Jan 8, 2010 11:52:27 GMT -5
Oh goodness...the radio DJs this morning are going IN on Mariah for the drunk moment. They said she was a hot mess at the People's Choice Awards too and feel sorry for Nick Cannon, they said he seems like he's her b*tch boy more than her husband. They said they're worried for her well being and her excuse for blaming the director for giving her "splashes" of champagne is completely laughable and she needs to own up to it herself. :o
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Post by imperfect on Jan 8, 2010 12:33:43 GMT -5
Hahaha, at Mimi for getting them talking, right as she has new music out. Once again, Mariah is a grown woman who can do as she pleases. Let em talk, and let play her new track with Ne-Yo. LOL
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Post by Active Aggressive on Jan 8, 2010 12:36:14 GMT -5
Oh goodness...the radio DJs this morning are going IN on Mariah for the drunk moment. They said she was a hot mess at the People's Choice Awards too and feel sorry for Nick Cannon, they said he seems like he's her b*tch boy more than her husband. They said they're worried for her well being and her excuse for blaming the director for giving her "splashes" of champagne is completely laughable and she needs to own up to it herself. :o AND THEN...??? ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jan 8, 2010 12:40:03 GMT -5
She seemed to own up to it fine. Said it was a party atmosphere. And please, everyone already knows that Nick worships the ground Mimi walks on, and to be fair, that's the kind of guy Mariah needs.
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Post by Bojangles on Jan 8, 2010 13:28:25 GMT -5
Oh goodness...the radio DJs this morning are going IN on Mariah for the drunk moment. They said she was a hot mess at the People's Choice Awards too and feel sorry for Nick Cannon, they said he seems like he's her b*tch boy more than her husband. They said they're worried for her well being and her excuse for blaming the director for giving her "splashes" of champagne is completely laughable and she needs to own up to it herself. :o AND THEN...??? ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Sinbad was a guest on there making jokes about it as well. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) As if he's even relevent LOL
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Post by ƒreakshow on Jan 8, 2010 14:00:01 GMT -5
Awww I feel all the love ![:d](http://images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif) Isn't the Bowflex machine calling your name? Run along now. ![:love:](http://i.imgur.com/2smy76v.gif) I also heard talk of her acceptance speech on the radio. All they said was that they figured she was drunk and looked very out of it.
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Post by neverduplicated on Jan 8, 2010 14:07:27 GMT -5
h0neybf1y posted this in the B200 thread in the general music forum.
Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel Billboard 200: #72 (Last week: #115) Sales this week: 10,686 (-42%) Total sales: 396,580 Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Albums: #20 (Last week: #22)
The 42% decrease was one of the lowest on the chart this past week! Can't explain why, but I'm not complaining.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 8, 2010 15:08:10 GMT -5
Actually, Obsessed peaked about 3 weeks before the album came out, at least on Rhy and Urb. It peaked on CHR later, but not its overall AI. By the time the album was released any momentum Obsessed had built up was dwindling away; the song took forever to take off and was already in the process of heavy decline (for the most part) when the album was released. That was my point. ;) Ahh ok, then I agree with you :)
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Post by neverduplicated on Jan 8, 2010 16:01:07 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Angels Advocate has a decent chance of outselling Memoirs? Memoirs has only sold 400k in the US. If "Angels Cry" and "UOMF" become decent-sized hits, I could definitely see it happening. Not getting my hopes up, though.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jan 8, 2010 16:13:39 GMT -5
^ Very unlikely in my opinion. With Angel's Cry as the first single it'll pretty much be DOA.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jan 8, 2010 16:38:58 GMT -5
^ Very unlikely in my opinion. With Angel's Cry as the first single it'll pretty much be DOA.
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Post by biltong on Jan 8, 2010 17:36:18 GMT -5
Listening to Angels Cry Feat. Ne-Yo in high quality definitely makes me like it even more. It's really strong. Hope it does well for her hey. I actually have a really good feeling about it. We'll see what happens ...
UP Out My Face Feat. Nicki Minaj is pretty strong too. Nicki compliments it and she's fresh.
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Post by grouper6 on Jan 8, 2010 17:38:07 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Angels Advocate has a decent chance of outselling Memoirs? Memoirs has only sold 400k in the US. If "Angels Cry" and "UOMF" become decent-sized hits, I could definitely see it happening. Not getting my hopes up, though. No. I don't see that happening and with her out of it appearance this week, I dont see this helping either. I wonder what the shipment will be on the remix re-release? I would think retail would be hesitant about a big order seeing how the original did. I don't see this album going or selling platinum.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jan 8, 2010 21:15:53 GMT -5
If this truly is mostly a featuring album rather than remixes, they should've been able to combine the sales, right? Not with a different title, I know, but if it really is almost completely the same...
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jan 8, 2010 21:22:30 GMT -5
^ I'm not completely solid on the "rules" of re-releases but I do know that the re-release must contain all of the original material. Although the songs on this upcoming remix album are essentially the same, they do feature newly recorded vocals and some songs contain new production. I'd think they would treat it as a completely separate release, but I don't know for certain.
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Post by Minimalism on Jan 8, 2010 21:53:41 GMT -5
How people often deem her "safe" is beyond me, because clearly, Mimi (or her label) has done a lot of envelope-pushing, as far as finding the loop-holes in chart rules is concerned, this time so shady that even chart experts at Pulse have trouble comprehending the tactic. ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif) In all seriousness, I actually like the UOMF remix very much. Nicki actually adds to the song, instead of being just a needless tack-on like a lot of the features on her recent remixes. Now bring on the video!
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Post by imperfect on Jan 8, 2010 23:48:22 GMT -5
^ Very unlikely in my opinion. With Angel's Cry as the first single it'll pretty much be DOA. It won't take much to outsell the original. Two solid weeks will do that. LOL However, if this sh!t keeps leaking, there will be no album to sell.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Jan 9, 2010 3:09:29 GMT -5
Okay, I"m drunk. Let's get that out of the way....... but, I've been on this board, for like, forever, so I'm allowed this.... and i'm allowed a say.
First of all, flop album, drunk speeches, crazy lyrics about a harvard class putting the pieces back together again, this is the most personality we have ever seen from this woman since..... god knows when. After all the criticism she's gotten about being so manufactured to be a certain way, we've finally seen so much more of the humor, and emotions, and insecurities that this woman possesses than we've ever seen in our whole life.
Now, this nexti issue is selfish. I loooooooooooooooooooooooooove Memoirs. I think it's some of of her best work. The vocals are straight out flawless for 90% of the time, 15 years after her introduction to this music world. Let's not kid ourselves, she could have stopped after Butterfly, and she'd always be the legend she's been. She's basically making music now because it's her hobby and she loves it ----- let's not pretend like she's Lady Gaga, or Jay Sean, or any other of our current artists and putting food on the table, and making a name for themsleves is a priority. If you are a Mariah fan, then you're basically been spoiled every since TEOM has come out, becuase she really doesn't owe a single sole a thing.
Call this rambling, call this beating a dead horse, call this nonsense..... all I know is that true Mariah fans are completely happy with how things are, with what she's doing, with the music she's making..... cause we understand who she is, what she's about, and why she does the things that she does.
I'm a lamb..... baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
And to everyone who's been negative for that past 20 or so pages................ FUCK YOU.
okay, good night.
please don't ban me.
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Post by ranjit on Jan 9, 2010 7:01:57 GMT -5
This is why it's pointless to discuss WW figures, because everybody and they daddy have a number. Sorry but these chart analysts actually have certifications from various countries to validate their point. I'm a through and through mariah fan but we should give credit where it is due. Madonna is HUUUUUUGGGE in Europe,Australia and recently,some parts of Asia. Facts are Facts and our narrow mindedness shoudn't get in the way of accepting them. Madonna single sales alone are STAGGERING.Her album sales are more or less near celine's(170m)- 180-190m. I say this becoz it is fact and not becoz i want to start a fight(and to shut fshscott once and for all) : 1. Madonna 2. Celine 3. Mariah Carey. I am PROUD as hell that Mariah Carey is the last female artist to surpass 200m record sales and don't give a shit if madonna passes 400m records(eventho i respect her.)
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Post by ranjit on Jan 9, 2010 7:05:16 GMT -5
and why doesn't anyone like the new remixes ??? I'm bummed about that..
Especially UOMF remix is AWESome !!
And ne-yo verse on AC is Fiyah !!
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Post by ranjit on Jan 9, 2010 7:07:59 GMT -5
Okay, I"m drunk. Let's get that out of the way....... but, I've been on this board, for like, forever, so I'm allowed this.... and i'm allowed a say. First of all, flop album, drunk speeches, crazy lyrics about a harvard class putting the pieces back together again, this is the most personality we have ever seen from this woman since..... god knows when. After all the criticism she's gotten about being so manufactured to be a certain way, we've finally seen so much more of the humor, and emotions, and insecurities that this woman possesses than we've ever seen in our whole life. Now, this nexti issue is selfish. I loooooooooooooooooooooooooove Memoirs. I think it's some of of her best work. The vocals are straight out flawless for 90% of the time, 15 years after her introduction to this music world. Let's not kid ourselves, she could have stopped after Butterfly, and she'd always be the legend she's been. She's basically making music now because it's her hobby and she loves it ----- let's not pretend like she's Lady Gaga, or Jay Sean, or any other of our current artists and putting food on the table, and making a name for themsleves is a priority. If you are a Mariah fan, then you're basically been spoiled every since TEOM has come out, becuase she really doesn't owe a single sole a thing. Call this rambling, call this beating a dead horse, call this nonsense..... all I know is that true Mariah fans are completely happy with how things are, with what she's doing, with the music she's making..... cause we understand who she is, what she's about, and why she does the things that she does. I'm a lamb..... baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa And to everyone who's been negative for that past 20 or so pages................ f**k YOU. okay, good night. please don't ban me. your amazing :o :o AC play counts : 55 UOMF counts : 40 ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by neverduplicated on Jan 9, 2010 7:40:42 GMT -5
Okay, I"m drunk. Let's get that out of the way....... but, I've been on this board, for like, forever, so I'm allowed this.... and i'm allowed a say. First of all, flop album, drunk speeches, crazy lyrics about a harvard class putting the pieces back together again, this is the most personality we have ever seen from this woman since..... god knows when. After all the criticism she's gotten about being so manufactured to be a certain way, we've finally seen so much more of the humor, and emotions, and insecurities that this woman possesses than we've ever seen in our whole life. Now, this nexti issue is selfish. I loooooooooooooooooooooooooove Memoirs. I think it's some of of her best work. The vocals are straight out flawless for 90% of the time, 15 years after her introduction to this music world. Let's not kid ourselves, she could have stopped after Butterfly, and she'd always be the legend she's been. She's basically making music now because it's her hobby and she loves it ----- let's not pretend like she's Lady Gaga, or Jay Sean, or any other of our current artists and putting food on the table, and making a name for themsleves is a priority. If you are a Mariah fan, then you're basically been spoiled every since TEOM has come out, becuase she really doesn't owe a single sole a thing. Call this rambling, call this beating a dead horse, call this nonsense..... all I know is that true Mariah fans are completely happy with how things are, with what she's doing, with the music she's making..... cause we understand who she is, what she's about, and why she does the things that she does. I'm a lamb..... baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa And to everyone who's been negative for that past 20 or so pages................ f**k YOU. okay, good night. please don't ban me. Will you marry me? ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) and why doesn't anyone like the new remixes ??? I'm bummed about that.. Especially UOMF remix is AWESome !! And ne-yo verse on AC is Fiyah !! I love all the remixes that have come out so far except for "Inseparable" with Trey Songz cause he doesn't seem to organically flow with the song. I think the "Angels Cry" remix is actually quite amazing and makes me forget about the original. The remix for "UOMF" is awesome as well. I wouldn't say it's better, but it definitely compliments the original track. Of the remixes that have leaked so far, this is how I would rank them: 1) HATE U 2) Angels Cry 3) Obsessed 4) UOMF 5) Candy Bling 6) Inseparable Here's how I would rank the originals of those songs; 1) HATE U 2) Candy Bling 3) Obsessed 4) Inseparable 5) UOMF 6) Angels Cry
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jan 9, 2010 7:55:40 GMT -5
Hate U is the best remix. I don't know why her label won't push it. AC is just a bore.
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Post by biltong on Jan 9, 2010 8:11:38 GMT -5
Listening to Angels Cry Feat. Ne-Yo in high quality definitely makes me like it even more. It's really strong. Hope it does well for her hey. I actually have a really good feeling about it. We'll see what happens ... UP Out My Face Feat. Nicki Minaj is pretty strong too. Nicki compliments it and she's fresh.
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Post by Candy Bling on Jan 9, 2010 9:41:33 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Angels Advocate has a decent chance of outselling Memoirs? Memoirs has only sold 400k in the US. If "Angels Cry" and "UOMF" become decent-sized hits, I could definitely see it happening. Not getting my hopes up, though. No. I don't see that happening and with her out of it appearance this week, I dont see this helping either. I wonder what the shipment will be on the remix re-release? I would think retail would be hesitant about a big order seeing how the original did. I don't see this album going or selling platinum. Well it's nearly sold half of it's total shipment and is still selling so it's not that bad.
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Post by weaver on Jan 9, 2010 10:05:03 GMT -5
Hate U is the best remix. I don't know why her label won't push it. AC is just a bore. I don't know why the Hate U remix is not out now w/ the main single.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jan 9, 2010 11:47:53 GMT -5
The H.A.T.E.U. remix is the only version of the song I've ever heard on the radio.
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