Adam Lambert - Whataya Want From Me

[Rumors]

Jan 23, 2010 19:50:59 GMT -5 Kworb said:

If he'd gone in a rock direction it'd have to be something like this and I don't think there's a radio format that would play it.

First time watching this video. LOL! Let's be honest. That's out there isn't it. Either you are going to love it or hate it.

I think it's the "real" Adam. That's what he is all about. And in no way is that a mainstream performance. So when he takes that show on the road outside of the LA, SF, NYC will anyone care? I think that's pretty much the question and a BIG unknown right now. As I said, it will be interesting to see where this all ends up. I think he will be HUGE in Europe and Asia. But if it doesn't start clicking soon in the US, I really wonder if this will pan out in the long run for him in the US. AI really toned Adam down and a lot of middle American women (huge part of his fanbase - not just gays) got hooked. But will they stay hooked for a 2 hour show like the one above. That was more a theater and Broadway SHOW than a rock CONCERT. And I think that's Adam and that's great. That's who he is. But again, not very mainstream (and not because he his gay).

That performance isn't for me. He hit the notes bit I don't care for the song. I guess it's a cover song but I'm not familiar with it.

[StarSprinkles]

Considering Europe and Asia are the current #1 and #2 music markets in the world, I don't think it's a terribly bad thing if Adam is huge there. I know RCA is planning lots of Japanese promo for him, which I think is a first for an Idol alum since Kelly. She went over there way back in 2003 to promote Thankful, and went back during the Breakaway era for a bit of promo, but I don't think she's been back in at least 5 years. It's long overdue for an Idol to make it big there, and I think he has a great shot at it.

[Rumors]

Jan 23, 2010 21:17:29 GMT -5 StarSprinkles said:

Considering Europe and Asia are the current #1 and #2 music markets in the world, I don't think it's a terribly bad thing if Adam is huge there.

I'm sure he could become extremely wealthy by becoming a star outside of the US but I don't think that's his or the label's goal today. It might be in 5 years but not today. They also want him to be a megastar in the US. I just don't think what Adam will/wants to do will translate in the US. I don't think its because he is gay necessarily as much as it is because he is male. A show like this is what Pink, Lady Gaga, Madonna, Christina, Britney do. I just don't know how a male will do in the US.

[P!nkch TheO™]

i much preffer THIS Adam ... video is from tonight :)

[mostlyharmless]

Jan 23, 2010 20:29:28 GMT -5 @rellybois said:

Jan 23, 2010 19:48:41 GMT -5 grey said:

mmm, I don't know, I don't think that would have felt authentic. I think his career's doing fine.

I don't know where you get the idea it wouldn't be authentic, considering he performed rock music and rock operas his entire career before Idol and all his most acclaimed Idol performances were rock-oriented songs. For a lot of his fans, the Gaga-wannabe dance music he came out with was a shock.

It wasn't a shock to me because I knew that before idol he did lots of dance music.

[foxxden]

I believe this was played on OHP tonight...can anyone confirm? Also Chicago has finally started to spin this. I want the good updates to continue! lol

[beachboi69]

This is great, so dissapointed the call letters I work for.......... refuse to support this.

It's clearly not for our format... blah blah blah

[moodswings]

Jan 24, 2010 2:46:28 GMT -5 foxxden said:

I believe this was played on OHP tonight...can anyone confirm? Also Chicago has finally started to spin this. I want the good updates to continue! lol

Yes, this got an OHP spin tonight. I guess we've kissed and made up with them.

[saga]

Jan 23, 2010 21:05:21 GMT -5 Rumors said:

Jan 23, 2010 19:50:59 GMT -5 Kworb said:

If he'd gone in a rock direction it'd have to be something like this and I don't think there's a radio format that would play it.

First time watching this video. LOL! Let's be honest. That's out there isn't it. Either you are going to love it or hate it.

I think it's the "real" Adam. That's what he is all about. And in no way is that a mainstream performance. So when he takes that show on the road outside of the LA, SF, NYC will anyone care? I think that's pretty much the question and a BIG unknown right now. As I said, it will be interesting to see where this all ends up. I think he will be HUGE in Europe and Asia. But if it doesn't start clicking soon in the US, I really wonder if this will pan out in the long run for him in the US. AI really toned Adam down and a lot of middle American women (huge part of his fanbase - not just gays) got hooked. But will they stay hooked for a 2 hour show like the one above. That was more a theater and Broadway SHOW than a rock CONCERT. And I think that's Adam and that's great. That's who he is. But again, not very mainstream (and not because he his gay).

That performance isn't for me. He hit the notes bit I don't care for the song. I guess it's a cover song but I'm not familiar with it.

Well you also have to give a thought what this performance was a part of. The performance was part of the zodiac show, it was not meant to be showing Adam and his rockband.

It is more broadway and theatre because it was suppose to be that. It is also not mainstream because it was not supposed to be that.

[Kworb]

POP:
31 29 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2150 1833 317 14.792
+69 Spins
+48 Bullet
+0.127 AI

HAC:
36 36 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 435 402 33 1.435
-4 Spins
-19 Bullet
-0.063 AI

[jenrdr]

Jan 23, 2010 21:05:21 GMT -5 Rumors said:

That performance isn't for me. He hit the notes bit I don't care for the song. I guess it's a cover song but I'm not familiar with it.

Nope, not a cover song. He cowrote it with Monte Pittman.

[StarSprinkles]

Nice update today!

Nope, not a cover song. He cowrote it with Monte Pittman.

Yup.

For those who don't know, this is Monte Pittman:



Adam and Monte formed a band together before Idol called "Citizen Vein." Adam was the singer, Monte was the guitarist, and they wrote alot of music together. Now he plays the guitar for Adam (and Madonna).

[Rumors]

Jan 24, 2010 7:25:43 GMT -5 saga said:

Well you also have to give a thought what this performance was a part of. The performance was part of the zodiac show, it was not meant to be showing Adam and his rockband.

It is more broadway and theatre because it was suppose to be that. It is also not mainstream because it was not supposed to be that.

I didn't pay any attention to where it was filmed. I just assumed it was his performance from NYE. What's Zodica anyway?

[Rumors]

Jan 24, 2010 7:31:40 GMT -5 jenrdr said:

Nope, not a cover song. He cowrote it with Monte Pittman.

Thanks for the information. Yeah, that song doesn't do much for me.

[Rumors]

Jan 24, 2010 7:27:36 GMT -5 Kworb said:

POP:
31 29 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2150 1833 317 14.792
+69 Spins
+48 Bullet
+0.127 AI

HAC:
36 36 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 435 402 33 1.435
-4 Spins
-19 Bullet
-0.063 AI

It's still too early to tell but it looks like pop may support Adam much more than HotAC. If he's big on Pop, he won't need HotAC, but it's interesting to see what format the label is focusing on. I actually think Adam is a better fit for pop than HotAC anyway.

[poptartz]

Jan 24, 2010 7:27:36 GMT -5 Kworb said:

POP:
31 29 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2150 1833 317 14.792
+69 Spins
+48 Bullet
+0.127 AI

Yay!!

This is why going to awards shows is worthwhile...

Adam Lambert and Justin Timberlake bond at SAG after party

Saturday night's Screen Actors Guild Awards delivered some serious star power, including an appearance by Adam Lambert, who came straight from a photo shoot for Flaunt Magazine. Why attend if you're not nominated, presenting or performing? "I got invited and thought, 'Why not?,' " Adam told Access Hollywood on the red carpet.

We caught up with the Season 8 runner-up at the People Magazine-sponsored after party, where he was spotted early on chatting with Justin Timberlake. In fact, the two hit it off so well, JT offered to write a song for Adam!

Naturally, we asked Adam about this little exchange, to which he responded: "I would loooove that," and crossed his fingers with eyes to the sky. (We crossed our toes in solidarity, not that he noticed).

from Idol Tracker

[maria4hitz]

^That is great!!!

[StarSprinkles]

Adam and JT making music together would be amazing! I hope it happens!

[saga]

Jan 24, 2010 11:36:53 GMT -5 Rumors said:

Jan 24, 2010 7:25:43 GMT -5 saga said:

Well you also have to give a thought what this performance was a part of. The performance was part of the zodiac show, it was not meant to be showing Adam and his rockband.

It is more broadway and theatre because it was suppose to be that. It is also not mainstream because it was not supposed to be that.

I didn't pay any attention to where it was filmed. I just assumed it was his performance from NYE. What's Zodica anyway?

The Zodiac show was something Adam did pre idol, I don't know what year though. It's where he met Monte Pittman (whom he later formed Citizen Vein with). There is a documentary film done about this show that is shown at the Sundance festival this year (I think).

The Zodiac Show

In 2001 in Los Angeles, Bachar, Lee Cherry, Scarlett Cherry and others started an 'underground' nightclub called Freedom. This became the occasional "multi-genre cabaret" The Zodiac Party which was first held at the Hollywood Athletic Club, then The Key Club. As of 2006, Bachar is still co-producing the event, which is now called The Zodiac Show. In August 2008 it was reported that Bachar will be doing another Zodiac Show, which she described as "a rock 'n' roll version of Cirque Du Soleil". The 2008 show was a huge success, and there will be another show in early 2010. The Zodiac Show may tour outside of the USA.

It's supposed to be very burlesque, underground holywood, that kind of thing. I think the show Adam was involved with was a homage to 70th rock era or something? Maybe someone else knows...

[tinawina]

Jan 24, 2010 11:46:05 GMT -5 Rumors said:

It's still too early to tell but it looks like pop may support Adam much more than HotAC. If he's big on Pop, he won't need HotAC, but it's interesting to see what format the label is focusing on. I actually think Adam is a better fit for pop than HotAC anyway.

Nothing in the way they've handled him so far suggests anything but the intention for Pop to be his focus IMO. I think this song will do well on both formats because its a very Pink song, and she typically hits that sweet spot. But I would bet RCA really wants to establish him on pop.

[SPRΞΞ]

Jan 24, 2010 12:17:03 GMT -5 StarSprinkles said:

Adam and JT making music together would be amazing! I hope it happens!

ew, no thanks.

[DimWitty]

Jan 24, 2010 11:36:53 GMT -5 Rumors said:

I didn't pay any attention to where it was filmed. I just assumed it was his performance from NYE. What's Zodica anyway?

The Zodiac Show

[brb]

Good update today.

Jan 24, 2010 11:46:05 GMT -5 Rumors said:

It's still too early to tell but it looks like pop may support Adam much more than HotAC. If he's big on Pop, he won't need HotAC, but it's interesting to see what format the label is focusing on. I actually think Adam is a better fit for pop than HotAC anyway.

RCA barely promote him in HAC and focus on CHR currently. I think HAC will follow CHR and that WWFM will eventually enter the top 20 in HAC, but I think it's going to take a while.

Jan 24, 2010 12:17:03 GMT -5 StarSprinkles said:

Adam and JT making music together would be amazing! I hope it happens!

I'd love to see that happens and I can't wait to hear that song.

[Rumors]

I'm also not one to get excited about anything Justin Timberlake related. Talk about someone who is WAY overrated. He's lucky he got in good with Timberland when he was hot. It apparently gave Justin cred in all the right places. I wonder how JT's catalog sales or how much recurrent play he gets. Anyway, boo hoo to pairing Adam up with anything related to JT.

[Rumors]

Saga - thanks for the information on Zodiac. I had never heard of it. I still think that is the type of show Adam will lean towards when he goes on tour. I would guess that he'll also have a more organic, slower segment to his show, too. Can he play piano or acoustic guitar?

[saga]

Jan 24, 2010 13:13:59 GMT -5 Rumors said:

Saga - thanks for the information on Zodiac. I had never heard of it. I still think that is the type of show Adam will lean towards when he goes on tour. I would guess that he'll also have a more organic, slower segment to his show, too. Can he play piano or acoustic guitar?

He doesn't play any instrument what I know. You might be right that this is more what his tours would look like, though I am not totally convinced. I think he is definetely investigating the lines between mainstream and underground and what he can do as a mainstream artist.

The Gridlock performances are imo much more "band-oriented" than his pre idol stuff and also his AI tour stuff and I think he really likes it so I wouldn't be suprised if he went in that direction instead. Compared to Gaga, Beyonce and other pop artists he emphasizes his band much more, both in music videos and on stage.

I know he is a busy person but since he is a songwriter as well I think he would benefit from learning an instrument well.

[StarSprinkles]

I don't see the need for Adam to accompany himself on guitar in concert when he's got one of the best in the business already doing it for him. I mean, I'm sure it looks pretty cool, but what practical use does it serve aside from aesthetics? No matter how well Adam would ever learn to play the guitar, it would never be as good as Mr. Madonna Guitarist Monte Pittman, who is doing a bang up job playing for Adam already. Plus, it would lock Adam into place onstage, and he loves to move around, dance, and interact with his band onstage.

[Rumors]

For the most part the musicians I follow can play an instrument at least to a degree. However, I do agree that it's not a must skill for an artist like Adam.

However, I do question how well a songwriter he can be without playing a instrument. Yeah, I know there's ways around it and other "songwriters" get credit for being songwriters without playing an instrument. I guess with the right electronic equipment you can come up with the beat and melody without playing yourself. But to me part of writing a song is being able to pluck out the music on a guitar or piano. I guess people like Beyonce just hum the music and assist with the lyrics and they are a songwriter. For instance, it's my understanding that Lady Gaga is very accomplished on the piano. I personally have a little more respect for artists that can play. Otherwise, you really are just a singer. And there's nothing wrong with being just a singer. Lots of great ones have never written but then again they weren't putting their names on songs as the songwriter when they contributed very little to the songs. I really don't like that but its the way of the world. Music publishing is where the real money is in the music industry. Publishing and touring.

[lucytor]

Jan 23, 2010 20:07:13 GMT -5 soundUPsceneDOWN said:

^^ Your sarcasm does nothing for your point. Instead of responding, you're twisting my words, adding to them ideas I never said, and then spitting them out as if I had. I'd rather not play that game.

Biggest eyeroll is that I said absolutely nothing about gay rights or gay marriage anywhere at all, nor did my point have anything at all to do with that, yet you act as if I wrote some kind of slanderous essay about it. My God. I am for gay marriage, but I certainly didn't need to say that for my point to be taken seriously enough that if you plan on responding you at least read it first.

Me, sarcastic? I'm never sarcastic. Mea maxima culpa about not reading your posts. I kinda move my hand thrice over the computer screen, and mistakenly assume that's enough.



Good data today, no?

[saga]

Jan 24, 2010 14:00:25 GMT -5 Rumors said:

For the most part the musicians I follow can play an instrument at least to a degree. However, I do agree that it's not a must skill for an artist like Adam.

However, I do question how well a songwriter he can be without playing a instrument. Yeah, I know there's ways around it and other "songwriters" get credit for being songwriters without playing an instrument. I guess with the right electronic equipment you can come up with the beat and melody without playing yourself. But to me part of writing a song is being able to pluck out the music on a guitar or piano. I guess people like Beyonce just hum the music and assist with the lyrics and they are a songwriter. For instance, it's my understanding that Lady Gaga is very accomplished on the piano. I personally have a little more respect for artists that can play. Otherwise, you really are just a singer. And there's nothing wrong with being just a singer. Lots of great ones have never written but then again they weren't putting their names on songs as the songwriter when they contributed very little to the songs. I really don't like that but its the way of the world. Music publishing is where the real money is in the music industry. Publishing and touring.

Gaga plays the piano really well, yes, and Beyonce is known to negotiate writers credit when she hasn't really done anything. Doesn't mean that that's the case with Adam. He composed songs before AI and he has clearly explained what part he was involved with and how that process worked. Even a song like River Comos PUU, where Adam has writing credit, he explained what he contributed to the song. But unless we're in the studio with him we don't really know. I think the song on the album that he worked the most on (from songwriter point of view) was Broken Open and maybe Down the Rabbit Hole.