"Hey Young Girl," Lloyd

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www1.allaccess.com/sounds/lloydhey.ram

This song is so boring. I have no idea why this guy is having success.

[allow that]

The said:

I have no idea why this guy is having success.

I hate to be cry out payola, but I will anyway because I'm 99% sure that's the only reason why.

[strong4PMB!]

I love this JAM!

This could have ended up Lloyd's "C'mon (Remix)" (by Mario), but since Lloyd is a friend of Irv Gotti's (with benefits), he will surely have another smash. Go Lloyd!

"I need some vegetable stew!"

[laguy03]

I liked "South Side". I doubt this one will do anything

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The said:

www1.allaccess.com/sounds/lloydhey.ram

This song is so boring.  I have no idea why this guy is having success.

same reason Ashanti has success.

Murder Inc or "The Inc" fans support everyone on the label. I know this because I know a couple die hard fans who support all the garbage that comes from that label. And since lloyd had Ashanti on the 1st single he is getting all of her fans support. One thing about them is that they keep it all in the fammily.

[krazymack]

Judging from the title alone it sounds like a song R. Kelly would sing.

[HER MINAJesty]

BlueNote said:

same reason Ashanti has success.

Murder Inc or "The Inc" fans support everyone on the label. I know this because I know a couple die hard fans who support all the garbage that comes from that label.   And since lloyd had Ashanti on the 1st single he is getting all of her fans support.  One thing about them is that they keep it all in the fammily.

Hmm, I dont know...I don't think "The Inc" has such loyal, devoted, hardcore supporters as you are suggesting.

I think if anything, it's shady tactics employed by the label as opposed to hardcore legions of die hard fans.  I've never even heard of die hard record label fans. 

And besides...WHAT SUCCESS?

"Southside" is/was a medium sized hit anyway, it's not like it was some major #1 across the board smash.  His album just came out last week and I could be wrong but I don't think he's going to be selling 500,000 copies first week and debuting at #1.

We all know radio is shady and if anything can explain "Southside"'s 'success' (as minimal as that may have been), it was probably payola.

Any other type of success is via sales, and his album just came out so how can that be judged?

I think it's still too early to call Lloyd a "success" or imply he's having success thus far.  Sure, 'Southside' could have totally bombed, but it was just 1 song, and it's not like it did major things anyway. Yea it just barely grazed Top 10 at Urban and Rhythmic, and just entered the Top 50 at Pop but I can't see it going any higher. It didn't even come close to hitting #1 anywhere. But "success" is relative, like I said the song could have totally flopped so Top 10 is a success but I still think it's too soon to brand him as a success.

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Just said:

Hmm, I dont know...I don't think "The Inc" has such loyal, devoted, hardcore supporters as you are suggesting.

I think if anything, it's shady tactics employed by the label as opposed to hardcore legions of die hard fans.  I've never even heard of die hard record label fans. 

And besides...WHAT SUCCESS?

"Southside" is/was a medium sized hit anyway, it's not like it was some major #1 across the board smash.  His album just came out last week and I could be wrong but I don't think he's going to be selling 500,000 copies first week and debuting at #1.

We all know radio is shady and if anything can explain "Southside"'s 'success' (as minimal as that may have been), it was probably payola.

Any other type of success is via sales, and his album just came out so how can that be judged?

I think it's still too early to call Lloyd a "success" or imply he's having success thus far.  Sure, 'Southside' could have totally bombed, but it was just 1 song, and it's not like it did major things anyway.

I know alot of Ashanti fans who will give support to anything "the inc" comes out with. 

He doesnt have to debut at #1 to mean he is getting dupport from fans of the inc.  He is a nobody, a new comer with a bad song but people like it. I doubt if payola is playing a part in this because there are alot of people who really like the song.  I dont understand why but all the little kids are singing it and it has really caught on.  And the success of this song is MAJOR for someone like Lloyd who is a nobody.  And nto mention Asshanti is on the song....she has a good track record at radio anyway despite her remix single.

I dont know why peolpe think u have to be #1 across the board to be considered a success.  Its a top 10 Urban song by an urban artist and a top 10 Rhythmic song. thats a succes.

And maybe u should visit an Ashanti board or a ja rule board but there are alot of die hard "inc" fans.  they are not the normal label.  Every artist on "the inc" works with each other.  Thats why its like a family unit.  So if you support 1 you end up supporting them all because they are all going to be on each others recordss anyway.  They are quite smart for that.  They keep it in the family.

[HER MINAJesty]

I've been familiar with Murder Inc. for years now, and I wasn't under the impression they had this loyal underground cult following. I guess it's possible but I don't know, I've never heard of that before which is why I'm surprised by it. I didn't think they had such loyal groupies like a Bow Wow or B2K.

Obviously, Ashanti was put on "Southside" for a reason. They needed a female vocalist and why not keep it in house? And Ashanti being on the track definitely helped out the song on the charts because MD's will play the song and add it just because Ashanti is on it.

Sure Top 10 is a success, I said that, but how can one Top 10 hit earn you the label of being a "success"? He's going to need to do alot more thigns than score a Top 10 hit with his first single to be branded a success.

But like I said, success is relative and subjective, so it has different meanings for everyone.

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Just said:

I've been familiar with Murder Inc. for years now, and I wasn't under the impression they had this loyal underground cult following.  I guess it's possible but I don't know, I've never heard of that before which is why I'm surprised by it.  I didn't think they had such loyal groupies like a Bow Wow or B2K.

No1 said they had a cult following, i think you are making more out of it than it is. They are not the typical label with a roster of artists who are all separatre and individual. They operate more like a close family label. They use 1 popular artist on the label to get the new artist started. They used Ja to get Ashanti success. they tried to use him to get Vita and Charli Baltimore success as well. So now they are using Ashanti to get Lloyd success. So if you are a fan of 1 of the artists on "the inc" you cant help but become a fan of the next, and so on and so on because they are all on each others records. Its a way of getting a new artist a fan base without them ever being out b4. they use another artists fan base to help the next new artist. ALot of Ashanti fans are Lloyd fans now. Thats why Irv Gotti, Ja and Ashani always talkin about "the Inc is a family Family" and all that. Because they all use each other to help sell records.

[reception]

This song is a mess.

[strong4PMB!]

A lot of fans of Ashanti are fans of Lloyd, Ja, Charli, etc., but quite a few actually dislike everyone on The Inc. except Ashanti.  (Well, nearly all of them dislike the label's clutter like Black Child, but that's different.)  Still, it's definitely true that most of Lloyd's fans liked Ashanti before they liked him.

"Southside" wasn't as big of a hit as I expected it to be. Still, it nearly died like two months ago, so for it to have peaked as high as it did is pretty impressive.

Lloyd needs to get all the success he can with this album, because supposedly he smokes 24-7. That's gotta take a toll on his voice sooner or later.

"Hey young girl, the world is yours!"

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

This song is well it has growth potential. This song has redeeming qualities.

[HER MINAJesty]

His singing voice is so much different from his speaking voice...like when you hear him talk, I'm like "That's the same guy who sings in that little squeaky voice?"

He has a different sounding singing voice, which is good, but he doesn't seem like the same person. That soft, melodic, harmless voice and then when he talks it's like he's a Brooklyn gangsta.

Irv Gotti hailed this new single as being "even bigger than Southside", and Im listening now, it's a nice midtempo song. It's kind of boring, but Southside is leaps and bounds more boring than this, AND that song grew on me, so I'm sure this one could do the same if not more, with its faster tempo.

It's ok, but nothing special right now.

[jaxxalude]

BlueNote said:

Murder Inc or "The Inc" fans support everyone on the label. I know this because I know a couple die hard fans who support all the garbage that comes from that label.  And since lloyd had Ashanti on the 1st single he is getting all of her fans support.  One thing about them is that they keep it all in the fammily.

That's really not a new tactic. No Limit, Cash Money, Rap-A-Lot, Roc-A-Fella and Rawkus all employed that strategy before. Nowadays, other underground/alternative/indie hip-hop labels like Babygrande, Eastern Conference, Definitive Jux, Anticon, Rhymesayers or Quannum are all following that same work ethic.
And Just Be Free better believe: there are hardcore label fans, especially on the underground/indie scene, where the sense of community has to be really strong, since they don't have the money to promote themselves like the majors have.

[HER MINAJesty]

Yea, but I wasn't speaking of the underground/indie scene

[reception]

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