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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Dec 4, 2009 15:51:16 GMT -5
Goes the week of December 13. I don't remember a lot from this band. Only heard once, but this is OK.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Dec 4, 2009 18:40:00 GMT -5
So this is the first official US single?
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Post by lockebox on Dec 4, 2009 18:45:20 GMT -5
Why an earth would they release this first instead "It's Not the End of the World" ??? Their days on radio are numbered unfortunately.
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Post by pen on Dec 4, 2009 19:30:40 GMT -5
Why an earth would they release this first instead "It's Not the End of the World" ??? Their days on radio are numbered unfortunately. Why shouldn't they? It's just as good a song. They did something similar with Start Something.
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Post by lockebox on Dec 18, 2009 15:07:28 GMT -5
Well, they should go with the rocker imo, which is "It's Not the End of the World". This is a bit different to the "Start Something" scenario. Both "Burn Burn" and "Last Train Home" were anthemic heavy rockers. "Where We Belong" is ballad like. I don't think this is official anyway. We've seen Artie create threads for rumored singles before which have turned out to be wrong i.e. "The Royal We", "Cosmic Egg", "Epic", "O Come All Ye Faithful", etc...
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Dec 18, 2009 15:37:30 GMT -5
"Where We Belong" is ballad like. "Love lift us up where we belong..."
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Post by pen on Dec 18, 2009 17:25:40 GMT -5
Well, they should go with the rocker imo, which is "It's Not the End of the World". This is a bit different to the "Start Something" scenario. Both "Burn Burn" and "Last Train Home" were anthemic heavy rockers. "Where We Belong" is ballad like. I don't think this is official anyway. We've seen Artie create threads for rumored singles before which have turned out to be wrong i.e. "The Royal We", "Cosmic Egg", "Epic", "O Come All Ye Faithful", etc... This isn't a rumor though, this is the second single in the UK. It seems logical to expect it'd be the first US single.
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Post by lockebox on Dec 18, 2009 17:57:47 GMT -5
Yes, but thats not relevant to potiential U.S releases. "It's Not the End of the World" should be this era's "Rooftops".
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 18, 2009 19:01:39 GMT -5
"Where We Belong" is ballad like. "Love lift us up where we belong..." "...Where the eagles fly..." EDIT: "On my 3,000th post"
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Dec 18, 2009 23:59:40 GMT -5
I think they should just send a song for adds.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jan 9, 2010 17:14:29 GMT -5
Apparently the album is coming out on February 2 in the US.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 10, 2010 3:17:41 GMT -5
That would be almost six years to the day since Start Something.
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Post by lockebox on Jan 10, 2010 10:36:38 GMT -5
Apparently the album is coming out on February 2 in the US. Wow. They need to hurry up and push a single to radio then.
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Post by Mega248 on Jan 10, 2010 17:49:18 GMT -5
First Mute Math and now the Lostprophets. Enough of this half-assed album promotion already.
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Post by pen on Jan 10, 2010 23:50:16 GMT -5
I can understand why. Mute Math's new album is hardly radio-friendly and Lostprophets haven't had a decent-sized hit in the US since 2004.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jan 11, 2010 11:28:49 GMT -5
I would count "Rooftops" as pretty decent sized though.
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Post by pen on Jan 11, 2010 11:53:52 GMT -5
15 at Alternative, 22 at Active is not really decent sized.
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Post by lockebox on Jan 11, 2010 12:05:48 GMT -5
Well, "I Don't Know" & "Wake Up" faired similarly. So, really you're saying that they've only had a one hit.
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Post by pen on Jan 11, 2010 12:27:23 GMT -5
Well "Make A Move" made 9 and 16, so I'd say that's your decent sized hit there. And yes, I would call "Last Train Home" their actual big hit.
Let's put it this way. "Rooftops" did worse than "I Don't Know", and the former was a lead single. That's a flop in my eyes.
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Post by PHOBES on Jan 11, 2010 14:52:25 GMT -5
15 at Alternative, 22 at Active is not really decent sized. I actually don't think that's bad at all. In fact, I thought it did much worse.
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Post by pen on Jan 12, 2010 0:12:03 GMT -5
For a lead single following a moderately successful album? Terrible.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jan 12, 2010 2:43:18 GMT -5
it's pretty good for a band from the UK that doesn't get any real push in the U.S. and never has. Even the songs that faired ok never really had massive push behind them. It's not surprising. Acts from pretty much anywhere but the U.S. have a hard time making major inroads on the charts. Just look at OLP, they should have been much bigger chartwise in the U.S. but nope. It's the few that you see that should actually be displacing some of the useless US bands that do get airtime. But I get it. It's all American charts from U.S. stations so you are going to get more american artists.
Rooftops was a "decent" hit considering where they are from and what kind of push they've ever gotten over here. At the end of the day though, for me personally, as long as they are making more albums I'm happy. I don't mind tracking them down without any U.S. exposure. Plus I'm totally biased because Rooftops is one of my top 10 songs of the last 10 years.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jan 12, 2010 2:47:10 GMT -5
Goes the week of December 13. I don't remember a lot from this band. Only heard once, but this is OK. Not shocking you don't know this band...it's a running joke for me that you don't have a clue about anything to do with Modern Rock music.....and you keep it going every time you admit that you don't know who some of these bands are. I swear to all that is good and holy that you are 13, listening to dad's satellite radio, pretending to have any clue about what is going on in the world of music.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 12, 2010 4:21:03 GMT -5
I'm totally biased because Rooftops is one of my top 10 songs of the last 10 years. Wow, that's really surprising. I'd say at least 2/3 of that album are better than that song. So criminal the way that album's marketing and promotion got botched as bad as it did.
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Post by PHOBES on Jan 12, 2010 15:53:14 GMT -5
For a lead single following a moderately successful album? Terrible. Not really, I mean, if nothing else it's to be expected. And like I said, I honestly thought it did much worse. In fact I find it impressive that they nearly reached the top 20 on Active with that song. Is it huge? No, but like you said it's following up a "moderately" successful album, and they didn't make a huge impact so I think the drop was quite conceivable.
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Post by PHOBES on Jan 12, 2010 16:00:47 GMT -5
Kind of a random side-note, but every time I visit this thread "The End is Where We Begin" runs through my head. Perhaps it's a combination of the song title and the fact that I consider the bands somewhat similar to a point. Seemed worth a mention after the OLP reference, lol.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jan 12, 2010 17:39:51 GMT -5
I'm totally biased because Rooftops is one of my top 10 songs of the last 10 years. Wow, that's really surprising. I'd say at least 2/3 of that album are better than that song. So criminal the way that album's marketing and promotion got botched as bad as it did. One of those things where one certain song just hit me at that time period. Even now I listen to it and I'm immediately taken back. "4AM" is a close second from the album. (side note - I'm trying right now to put together my list of 1001 favorite rock/indie/alternative songs of the last decade......I wish I had never started because it's insane to try and go through it all, especially since I only started a personal chart again in 2005. I know I'm going to miss a few songs but I've been pretty extensive and decided no matter what, I'd call it MY FAVORITE songs of the 2000's...instead of BEST OF because once I post it, I'll probably get 500 song recommendations that I should have had on my list. In the end the songs will be the ones that actually impacted me during the decade, even if there are "better" songs that I will obviously miss. It's turning out to be very artist heavy)
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 13, 2010 2:17:29 GMT -5
side note - I'm trying right now to put together my list of 1001 favorite rock/indie/alternative songs of the last decade. Holy moly! 1001! :o Even I knew that 200 songs of the decade would be the furthest I could go without it being too time-consuming and without it getting too arbitrary the further from #1 I got. Even jdmasta289's 500 songs is way too many to consider.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jan 13, 2010 19:51:04 GMT -5
side note - I'm trying right now to put together my list of 1001 favorite rock/indie/alternative songs of the last decade. Holy moly! 1001! :o Even I knew that 200 songs of the decade would be the furthest I could go without it being too time-consuming and without it getting too arbitrary the further from #1 I got. Even jdmasta289's 500 songs is way too many to consider. At the end of the day I realize that probably everything from around 250 on will be interchangeable in terms of positioning but it was a way for me to review the entire decade in rock music (well, at least in what I heard from it). The funny thing to me is now that I have the songs, there is only a few that would be termed non-rock and it freaks me out to even consider doing a list of any other genre even though it wouldn't be nearly as thorough. I did run across quite a few songs I had almost entirely forgotten about. I'm hoping to be done the list in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 14, 2010 3:29:40 GMT -5
The funny thing to me is now that I have the songs, there is only a few that would be termed non-rock and it freaks me out to even consider doing a list of any other genre even though it wouldn't be nearly as thorough. Seeing how much rock music dominated my Top 200 songs of the decade, I decided to do just that. To make lists for other genres. I've already knocked out my Top 100 R&B songs of the decade and actually a Top 200 Hip Hop songs list. I plan on doing 200 more for Pop (non-crossover) and a Top 100 for Country.
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