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Post by lockebox on Jan 29, 2010 17:21:43 GMT -5
Goes for adds February 16th.
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Post by pen on Jan 29, 2010 17:41:23 GMT -5
I'm curious seeing as how this is their first album not released with any assistance from Bieler Bros. and their last EP seemed to give a nod back to their Development days, whether this will end up being a more melodic album. And then again, seeing as how the guys from Mudvayne are helping to produce this, it may be a heavier effort. Either way, I hope it's better than Vengeance, which was massively disappointing.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Feb 15, 2010 9:32:05 GMT -5
Top 50 on Active:
76 50 NONPOINT Miracle 84 27 57 0.196
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 4, 2010 8:10:59 GMT -5
Top 40 on Active:
43 39 NONPOINT Miracle 244 166 78 0.388
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 19, 2010 6:54:08 GMT -5
Top 30 on Active:
33 30 NONPOINT Miracle 318 300 18 0.471
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Apr 20, 2010 12:13:52 GMT -5
that is a very good song! really like it, and it seems like it's doing good on charts
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 20, 2010 13:37:04 GMT -5
About as typically as every Nonpoint single seems to do, peak into the early to mid 20s. Except for "In The Air Tonight," which only got to #34 despite it being played to all hell back then locally down here. I wonder if they're ever going to break the barrier and get a hit one of these days.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 20, 2010 14:26:15 GMT -5
Nonpoint and Sevendust go on tour together all the time and each have these lead single barriers that are about 10 spots apart. (And realize that "In The Air "Tonight" was a follow-up single so that's why it didn't do as well...their only lead single to not even reach said barrier was "Your Signs" way back in the day).
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Post by lockebox on May 7, 2010 12:21:46 GMT -5
Top 20 - Active
23 20 NONPOINT - Miracle 573 527 46 1.031
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Post by metalfan87 on May 7, 2010 13:59:15 GMT -5
first top 20 EVER!
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 7, 2010 14:42:17 GMT -5
Considering where "Miracle" is on Billboard right now (#24) and that "The Truth" and "Bullet With A Name" reached #22 on Billboard, I would guess that one or both of those reached top 20 on active rock as well.
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Post by lockebox on May 7, 2010 14:47:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty sure "Bullet With a Name" made the top 20.
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Post by American Idiot on May 8, 2010 21:21:26 GMT -5
Take Wikipedia for what it is, but it says "Bullet With A Name" peaked at #22.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 8, 2010 21:48:11 GMT -5
Considering where "Miracle" is on Billboard right now (#24) and that "The Truth" and "Bullet With A Name" reached #22 on Billboard, I would guess that one or both of those reached top 20 on active rock as well. Read closely AI. =) |
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Post by PHOBES on May 8, 2010 22:19:24 GMT -5
Take Wikipedia for what it is, but it says "Bullet With A Name" peaked at #22. You have to take into account that the wikipedia info is for the Billboard Mainstream Rock Chart. Active Rock and BB spots are almost always close, but not necessarily the same. |
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 8, 2010 22:31:12 GMT -5
Active rock peaks tend to be higher for everybody except for super established artists, as billboard combines the panels of active and heritage rock for their mainstream rock chart. There are so few heritage rock stations though that it usually just makes Billboard a slightly less active version of active rock.
And when I said above for AI to read closely, I was trying to point out that #22 on billboard does not mean #22 on active. Phobia was all over that. =)
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 8, 2010 22:32:43 GMT -5
Or to put it in a way that AI can definitely relate to given his listening area, WHDR, that crappy rock station that plays hardly any new music counts for billboard mainstream rock, but it is considered a heritage rock rather than active rock station for mediabase given how little new music it plays.
The exclusion of WHDR and other similar stations from active rock that get included in Billboard help bands like Nonpoint peak higher on active than on Billboard.
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Post by metalfan87 on May 8, 2010 22:35:16 GMT -5
Or to put it in a way that AI can definitely relate to given his listening area, WHDR, that crappy rock station that plays hardly any new music counts for billboard mainstream rock, but it is considered a heritage rock rather than active rock station for mediabase given how little new music it plays. The exclusion of WHDR and other similar stations from active rock that get included in Billboard help bands like Nonpoint peak higher on active than on Billboard. I agree, jv. man I wish that station would be an active rock station |
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 8, 2010 23:15:43 GMT -5
Metalfan, do you mean that you wish that they would count as an active rock station, or did you mean that you wish they would play more new music like an active rock station?
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Post by metalfan87 on May 8, 2010 23:17:37 GMT -5
Metalfan, do you mean that you wish that they would count as an active rock station, or did you mean that you wish they would play more new music like an active rock station? play more new music. |
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 9, 2010 0:00:04 GMT -5
Yeah their playlist looks dreadful.
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Post by metalfan87 on May 9, 2010 8:23:27 GMT -5
Yeah their playlist looks dreadful. totally agree |
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 23, 2010 8:34:26 GMT -5
any 2nd single predictions?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 23, 2010 9:19:31 GMT -5
Given I like almost every song on the album better than almost every song off 'Vengeance' and I like most of the album better than "Miracle", they can't really go wrong as far as I'm concerned. The other problem with Nonpoint songs is they often sound very similar, so the difference between picking one single or another is fairly minimal.
I think they should go with something from the first part of the album though, which with the exception of "Miracle" is stronger than the second half by a decent amount. Or they could pick "5 Minutes Alone" as a lot of people would probably dig Nonpoint doing Pantera.
My short list would be "Crazy", "Frontlines", "Shadow", and "5 Minutes Alone", but I'd have a tough time picking the one that they should go for.
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Post by pen on Jun 23, 2010 10:31:47 GMT -5
I want "Shadow" and then "Frontlines" for the third single.
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Post by arashinclowery13 on Jul 11, 2010 7:43:29 GMT -5
Throwing Stones - Lucky #13 - What U Got For Me - Shadow are bad ass songs.
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