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Post by Stephen on Feb 4, 2010 19:07:17 GMT -5
I'm kind of flattered he threw shade at Carrie. It means he sees her as a threat (though I doubt Taylor does, lmao). They're both good friends, that's the worst part.
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Post by wallace on Feb 4, 2010 19:08:19 GMT -5
Kelly's blog wasn't about TS, it was about her idiot of a manager. Who needs to stop now, his comments aren't doing Taylor any favors. Exactly. He's adding fuel to the fire. But I read that he was trying to throw shade at Carrie. So did I, and so, I think, did Kelly. She kept up on ragging on the guy while defending Taylor and Carrie on her Twitter.
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Post by starr on Feb 4, 2010 19:21:46 GMT -5
am I the only one that actually understood what the guy was trying to say? I don't think he was attacking american Idol, but rather saying that a performance at the Grammy's is different than one at the american idol, where you need to reach the high notes. I think Kelly misunderstood the whole thing. Kelly didn't misunderstand anything. She knew exactly what she was talking about when she made her statement. Scott Borchetta's statement about "American Idol" contestants was really in reference to Carrie Underwood. I'm glad that Kelly stood up for herself and the other "American Idol" contestants. Borchetta should be ashamed of himself trying to put down other recording artists to build up his own artist.
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Post by what on Feb 4, 2010 19:38:51 GMT -5
the best part about kellys blog was when she said "we also hit the 'right' notes you know?!" you go clarkson!!
ah no, any live perfromance, whether idol, grammys or ama's, etc., the most basic thing an artist can do is at least hit the right notes. it doesnt mean that hitting the right notes means the highest notes, just stay on key. because thats what singers should know how to do in the first place.
i know idol has preached the glory notes prob more than anything, but they also look for staying on key. most of the judges' criticisms througout the years on the contestants wasnt about contestants not hitting the highest notes, but to quote randy, "its pitchy dawg!" ive heard that on that show more than "why didnt you reach for the highest note?! you fail!"
borchetta is so narrow minded in thnking that a good singer = hitting the highest note. uh, before talking about high notes, what abt the "right" notes first, as kelly said?! hes sounding ridiculously dumb for a label head. well, thats prob why he needed to form his own label - hes too stupid to be hired by others.
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Post by Typo on Feb 4, 2010 19:39:03 GMT -5
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Post by tsharky on Feb 4, 2010 19:49:32 GMT -5
^ It is not just about hitting high notes. It is about hittiing the right notes. lol
LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Kelly Clarkson!
I cannot believe Taylor's label exec dared to slam American Idol singer as not being real artists, or just hitting high notes.... when Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry all write alot of their own songs now. They play instruments, and they sing circles around her.
So how dare he lash out at other innocent artists who had NOTHING to do with the issue at hand, that being, Taylor's Grammy performance? Is that their new defense stategy now, lash out at others to deflect the attention from Taylor? Not cool.
I love Kelly even more then ever now. She ROCKS!
^^^^ Stephen, I agree with you that he was trying to diss Carrie Underwood for reasons unknown to me. Obviously he sees Carrie as a threat or whatever. Who knows.
But just to clarify, Carrie has said many times that she does not know Taylor very well. They are not really "friends" but acquaintances. They do not hang out. There is a 7 year age difference between them. They went to one hockey game with Kellie Picker that Kellie set up. Carrie was asked several times on radio interviews if they all hang out, and Carrie said she only runs into Taylor at award shows. They are not really friends.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Feb 4, 2010 19:54:20 GMT -5
I just hope this stuff doesn't get out of hand or taken out of context. People will be so quick to say Kelly threw shade at Taylor, despite Kelly being one Taylor's biggest supporters.
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Post by tsharky on Feb 4, 2010 19:55:22 GMT -5
^The only person who looks like a major butthead is Scott Borschetta. Kelly did nothing wrong, and had EVERY right to defend herself.
Scott sounded like a spoiled child who was lashing out at other innocent parties because he couldn't admit the truth about Taylor. So instead of just moving on, he attacked everyone from the media to poor American idol constestants who have nothing to do with this issue.
He must have forgot that Taylor's BFF is Kellie Pickler, an American Idol contestant. I guess she isn't a real artist either. LMAO
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Feb 4, 2010 19:59:04 GMT -5
I agree, but I think things like this get blown out of proportion. There are already people saying that Kelly was being subliminal towards Taylor, and I don't see that at all. But we all know the media and messy people try to make small things into big things. EXHIBIT 1: Scott Borchetta.
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Post by what on Feb 4, 2010 20:16:48 GMT -5
I agree, but I think things like this get blown out of proportion. There are already people saying that Kelly was being subliminal towards Taylor, and I don't see that at all. But we all know the media and messy people try to make small things into big things. EXHIBIT 1: Scott Borchetta. well, thats borchettas fault. he should have thought this through first, for a man his stature. who told him to include american idol anyway in his tantrum?! no one. if he had faced this as a mautre man and just said "admittdely, it wasnt her best night, but she will work to get better" and left it at that, noen of this would happen in the first place. their camp would actually look like good guys who admit their shortcomings and promises to work on gettnig better. if he had every right to defend his talent, then kelly and other idols who may respond have also every right to defend themslves and where they came from. american idol isnt exactly the most noble thing out there, but they did produce legitimate stars who are still very much in the public eye. and like someone said, this is coming from someone who judged on "can you duet". he ahd a lot of room to talk.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Feb 4, 2010 20:20:34 GMT -5
Again, I agree with Kelly, but I'm talking about Kelly's words possibly getting twisted to make it seem like she was dissing Taylor. This happens all the time with music artists. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be bigger than what it is.
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Post by kt1990 on Feb 4, 2010 20:24:24 GMT -5
Scott Borchetta! What a MF Prick! Clearly dude is tryna justify Taylor's singing ability, or lack thereof. There was NO technical difficulty, she just can't sing live. How dare he try to cover that fact up by bringing up Carrie (by the Idol comment, it seems as though he was implicitly referring to her in particular), when she can sing circles around Taylor. SO much respect for KELLY, for defending herself, Carrie and every other Idol alum who can actually sing in key. Borchetta actually claiming Taylor is an emotional singer, , as if Kelly or Carrie isn't? gtfo! The truth of the matter is Taylor has a VERY weak voice and simply shouldn't be singing for a living, if she can't get up on stage and sing on pitch. Ugh, I hope Taylor fires him or something, what a clueless jerk. In conclusion, GO KELLY!
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Post by jamrock16 on Feb 4, 2010 20:40:16 GMT -5
And the nerve he had to claim Taylor is "the voice of our generation". He must be tone-deaf too.
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Post by maria4hitz on Feb 4, 2010 20:44:40 GMT -5
David Cook tweeted this: twitter.com/thedavidcookKudos, kelly🌷💞_clarkson. Love it. And these are other tweets by kelly RE: bit.ly/90wr0Q Carrie/Taylor are both talented. Everybody likes something different. No one deserves to be belittled either way. www.iamkelly.wordpress.com Sorry my blog isn't more 'happy' but I can't stand ignorance or disrespect. Next time maybe a happy one :) RE: bit.ly/9NvnN9 Don't recall dissing Taylor but thanks for the memo, I'll get on that. RE: bit.ly/a6KzJD I buy her albums and cover her songs, obviously I'm a fan. RE: bit.ly/9wjKnG Most people hear what they want to hear, unfortunately RE: bit.ly/a1BQVz He was probably highly insulted as well. (about the david cook tweet) RE: bit.ly/dzP9tU I'm starting to wonder if people can read?? I am a fan and can relate to Taylor. The problem is not her. There are many more tweets, and they are hilarious.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Feb 4, 2010 20:46:34 GMT -5
I told ya some of Kelly's tweets and mentions in the blog were going to be taken out of context. That's the way of the world.
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Post by Typo on Feb 4, 2010 20:48:35 GMT -5
Any intelligent person would understand that Kelly was attacking Borchetta's ridiculous claims and not Taylor..
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Post by realityBITES on Feb 4, 2010 20:53:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I just caught up on this mess. Borchetta should not have commented at all, IMO. Why bring more attention to a sub-par performance? Critics take on every artist... and their label heads don't go out of their way to defend their artists. But, as has been said, the shot at Idol was pretty unnecessary and really didn't help his argument at all.
Kelly's blog was spot on.
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Post by felipe on Feb 4, 2010 20:57:36 GMT -5
Ch... and I could care less about Solange's existence. My point is that instead of going in on Taylor about getting all of this attention, she needs to try scooping up some recognition herself. Solange's opinion will never matter. She will always be known as the LaToya or Rebbie of the Knowles clan. Bew. If Solange's opinion is irrelevant and she shouldn't even bother to say them, what then could we say about yours? Because it's clear that only grammy-winners have relevant opinions.
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Feb 4, 2010 21:00:30 GMT -5
Kinda cute of Kelly Clarkson for standing up for Carrie Underwood.
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Post by starr on Feb 4, 2010 21:01:24 GMT -5
Solange's statement was about the mainstream media.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Feb 4, 2010 21:03:00 GMT -5
Ch... and I could care less about Solange's existence. My point is that instead of going in on Taylor about getting all of this attention, she needs to try scooping up some recognition herself. Solange's opinion will never matter. She will always be known as the LaToya or Rebbie of the Knowles clan. Bew. If Solange's opinion is irrelevant and she shouldn't even bother to say them, what then could we say about yours? Because it's clear that only grammy-winners have relevant opinions. My opinion is not being blasted all over Twitter boo. No, my opinion doesn't matter. You're right. Five million people or so who bought Taylor's album to Solange's 100k (if that) matters.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Feb 4, 2010 21:05:52 GMT -5
Solange's rant might have been about the media, but she comes off as a b!tch, and she did the same thing at the VMAs. She needs to be a good sport and support her sister's six record-breaking wins instead of worrying about the media making Taylor the "cinderella" of the night. Who cares about how the media didn't cite Beyonce as "the biggest winner of the night"? Does she really need the validation? Solange needs to saddown!
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Post by d.t.m on Feb 4, 2010 21:49:17 GMT -5
Love Kelly for putting that idiotic manager in his place. Wow at Taylor getting so much backlash after winning AOTY, but frankly some of it is deserved IMO. She just didn't deserve the industry's top honor over at least 2 of her fellow nominees.
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Post by CammyCan on Feb 4, 2010 21:50:59 GMT -5
She just didn't deserve the industry's top honor over at least 2 of her fellow nominees. Best critical reviews of all five nominees, best seller by at least 3 million...Of course she deserved it.
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Post by PDC1987 on Feb 4, 2010 22:03:54 GMT -5
She just didn't deserve the industry's top honor over at least 2 of her fellow nominees. Best critical reviews of all five nominees, best seller by at least 3 million...Of course she deserved it. But none of the 5 were among the 5 best albums of the last year. That's the whole point.
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Post by CammyCan on Feb 4, 2010 22:08:29 GMT -5
Is it? It's irrelevant whether the five nominees were the best of the year of not, they were the ones nominated. D.t.m. was trying to say that two other nominees deserved the award above Taylor. I said they didn't.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Feb 4, 2010 22:11:38 GMT -5
Is it? It's irrelevant whether the five nominees were the best of the year of not, they were the ones nominated. D.t.m. was trying to say that two other nominees deserved the award above Taylor. I said they didn't. Exactly. If someone wants to use that weak argument as a point, then it's safe to say that none of them deserved the top honors, but you have to judge who were actually nominated.
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Post by musicrocks on Feb 4, 2010 22:31:46 GMT -5
Billboard isn't making this better with the title of this article... www.billboard.com/#/news/kelly-clarkson-fires-back-at-taylor-swift-1004065296.storyKelly Clarkson Fires Back At Taylor Swift Kelly Clarkson posted a blog entry on Thursday (Feb. 4) in response to Big Machine Records CEO Scott Borchetta, who defended his artist Taylor Swift's off-key performance at Sunday's Grammy Awards by taking a swipe at singers who never miss a note. "This is not 'American Idol,'" Borchetta said, in response to mounting criticism over Swift's less-than-stellar vocals during her duet with Stevie Nicks. "This is not a competition of getting up and seeing who can sing the highest note. This is about a true artist and writer and communicator. It's not about that technically perfect performance." Needless to say, the original "American Idol" winner-turned-pop ingénue went on the defensive. "I understand defending your artist obviously because I have done the same in the past for artists I like, including Taylor, so you might see why its upsetting to read you attacking 'American Idol' for producing simply vocalists that hit 'the high notes,'" Clarkson wrote. "Thank you for that 'Captain Obvious' sense of humor because you know what, we not only hit the high notes, you forgot to mention we generally hit the 'right' notes as well." "Every artist has a bad performance or two and that is understandable, but throwing blame will not make the situation at hand any better," the "My Life Would Suck Without You" singer continued. "I have been criticized left and right for having shaky performances before (and they were shaky) and what my manager or label executives say to me and the public is 'I'll kick butt next time' or 'every performance isn't going to be perfect' ...I bring this up because you should take a lesson from these people and instead of lashing out at other artists (that in your 'humble' opinion lack true artistry), you should simply take a breath and realize that sometimes things won't go according to plan or work out and that's okay." Clarkson sarcastically signed off on the note to Borchetta as, "One of those contestants from American Idol who only made it because of her high notes."
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Feb 4, 2010 22:36:11 GMT -5
I TOLD YA!
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Post by Typo on Feb 4, 2010 22:37:53 GMT -5
Taylor should go away for awhile, I think overexposure is becoming a serious problem for her.
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