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Post by hank0629 on Feb 26, 2013 0:49:50 GMT -5
Country Airplay *** No. 1 (1 week)*** "One Of Those Nights" Tim McGraw Greatest Gainer No. 3 "Begin Again" Taylor Swift Debut No. 55 "Ain't Easy" Rachel Farley Debut No. 58 "Easy" Sheryl Crow
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 28, 2013 13:01:24 GMT -5
First top ten of the mongrel chart since YouTube views are allowed (the first full week): 1. Sure Be Cool If You Did-Blake Shelton-Warner Bros. 2. Wanted-Hunter Hayes-Atlantic 3. Better Dig Two-Band Perry-Republic Nashville 4. One Of Those Nights-Tim McGraw-Big Machine 5. Two Black Cadillacs-Carrie Underwood-Arista 6. Tornado-Little Big Town-Capitol 7. Cruise-Florida Georgia Line-Republic Nashville 8. Every Storm Runs Out Of Rain-Gary Allan-MCA 9. Downtown-Lady Antebellum-Capitol 10. Somebody's Heartbreak-Hunter Hayes-Atlantic
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 16:36:16 GMT -5
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Post by jughead on Mar 2, 2013 0:46:59 GMT -5
How far is Hunter Hayes' Wanted from the best-selling digital single by a male artist?
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Post by tn05 on Mar 2, 2013 13:25:25 GMT -5
Due to the recent few 'crossover' hits from folk-leaning artists and the general confusion as to why they aren't charting on Country Songs despite being on the Airplay component, here are the Billboard rules on charting on Country Songs (if you want more specifics, you can go to Bill Werde's Twitter and try and go back to when the changes were made):
*Songs defined by Billboard as 'country' (ie. WANEGBT, Wanted, Don't Rush) have country airplay, as well as any crossover play and streaming (I do not believe remix sales count, but don't quote me on that), count towards chart position on Country Songs.
*Songs defined by Billboard as 'not country' (ie. Ho Hey, I Will Wait, Bruises) only have country airplay and sales/streaming of a country remix count. Out-of-format airplay and sales are not included.
*Billboard factors in overall sound as well as, to an extent, the artist's history in the genre.
So basically, even though some crossover songs are getting airplay, they will only get country airplay counted towards their standing. These rules apply to the other genre charts that use the crossover play as well (ie. Rock, R&B, Rap) Billboard can, however, change the definition of a song - they did this with many songs after the first week of changes, such as changing '50 Ways to Say Goodbye' from 'rock' to 'not rock' and thus causing it to drop off Rock Songs chart entirely despite a #3 entry. It may not do much, but e-mailing your case towards Billboard for their weekly Q&A columns could very well yield a response.
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Post by hank0629 on Mar 4, 2013 21:19:17 GMT -5
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Post by hank0629 on Mar 4, 2013 21:27:13 GMT -5
Country Airplay *** No. 1 (2 weeks)*** "One Of Those Nights" Tim McGraw Greatest Gainer No. 7 "I Drive Your Truck" Lee Brice Hot Shot Debut No. 37 "DONE." The Band Perry Debut No. 40 "Beat This Summer" Brad Paisley Debut No. 56 "Better" Maggie Rose
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Post by kml567 on Mar 11, 2013 20:48:40 GMT -5
What's "Heart Pounding" on 3/25? I can't figure that ad out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 20:49:48 GMT -5
What's "Heart Pounding" on 3/25? I can't figure that ad out. It's "Highway Don't Care". The picture is cracked paint lines on the highway. Also, AllAccess has that same image as the thumbnail for HDC.
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Post by hank0629 on Mar 11, 2013 22:32:00 GMT -5
Country Airplay *** No. 1 (3 weeks)*** "One Of Those Nights" Tim McGraw Greatest Gainer No. 28 "Beat This Summer" Brad Paisley Debut No. 57 "Hey Girl" Billy Currington Debut No. 60 "He Loves To Make Me Cry" Kristen Kelly
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Post by bbbbhsu on Mar 16, 2013 1:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 21, 2013 15:55:50 GMT -5
Gotta love the Blake Shelton domination on the mongrel chart, the airplay chart, and the digital chart. Thank God Luke Bryan tops the albums chart.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 28, 2013 11:27:58 GMT -5
Strange. Wanted by Hunter Hayes was at #9 last week after 56 weeks on the mongrel chart. This week, he is nowhere to be found. With the recurrent rules on that chart, that means he slipped to at least #26 (older titles deleted after 20 weeks after they dip below the top 25). Does that mean Hayes shares the longevity record with Lee Brice with Love Like Crazy? You be the judge!
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 28, 2013 11:34:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 11:53:08 GMT -5
Strange. Wanted by Hunter Hayes was at #9 last week after 56 weeks on the mongrel chart. This week, he is nowhere to be found. With the recurrent rules on that chart, that means he slipped to at least #26 (older titles deleted after 20 weeks after they dip below the top 25). Does that mean Hayes shares the longevity record with Lee Brice with Love Like Crazy? You be the judge! How on earth does it make any sense for Hunter to fall from 9-26 or lower? I don't think that's what happened. I think Billboard is just a silly little company that does what it pleases. I mean, "Wanted" is still selling well enough that it should EASILY be in the top 15 of the mongrel chart.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 28, 2013 12:00:03 GMT -5
Strange. Wanted by Hunter Hayes was at #9 last week after 56 weeks on the mongrel chart. This week, he is nowhere to be found. With the recurrent rules on that chart, that means he slipped to at least #26 (older titles deleted after 20 weeks after they dip below the top 25). Does that mean Hayes shares the longevity record with Lee Brice with Love Like Crazy? You be the judge! How on earth does it make any sense for Hunter to fall from 9-26 or lower? I don't think that's what happened. I think Billboard is just a silly little company that does what it pleases. I mean, "Wanted" is still selling well enough that it should EASILY be in the top 15 of the mongrel chart. You tell me. I can't find Wanted, so I figured Billboard yanked it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 12:05:39 GMT -5
They yanked it but I don't know why. It still sold 30,000 last week and has quite a bit of airplay at both the country and pop formats yet. I'm 99% positive it should still be on the mongrel chart (by Billboard's own rules), but I guess they don't care about following their own rules or about making good charts anymore.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 28, 2013 12:06:53 GMT -5
^Thanks. You're the greatest.
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Post by Old Fart In NC on Mar 28, 2013 15:05:43 GMT -5
Bad link for the country update (404 Not Found).
This wouldn't be the first time that Billboard violates their recurrent rules. If I recall just a couple months ago they sent ZBB's Goodbye In Their Eyes recurrent a week before they should have. Wanted did go recurrent on the Hot 100 this week; maybe they decided it should go recurrent on both charts at the same time since its extended stay on the "country" chart was largely due to crossover airplay.
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Post by meuirmao on Mar 28, 2013 19:06:50 GMT -5
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 28, 2013 19:42:45 GMT -5
Bad link for the country update (404 Not Found). This wouldn't be the first time that Billboard violates their recurrent rules. If I recall just a couple months ago they sent ZBB's Goodbye In Their Eyes recurrent a week before they should have. Wanted did go recurrent on the Hot 100 this week; maybe they decided it should go recurrent on both charts at the same time since its extended stay on the "country" chart was largely due to crossover airplay. Sorry here ya go Country www1.billboard.biz/bbbiz/photos/pdf/2013/BCU_mw_0328.pdfTop 40 with Country article www1.billboard.biz/bbbiz/photos/pdf/2013/TFMm0328.pdf
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Post by josephmorgan on Mar 28, 2013 21:46:43 GMT -5
countryhistorian, I have a question. If Kacey Musgraves would've stayed in the top 10 with "Merry Go 'Round", and Miranda Lambert then got in with "Mama's Broken Heart", it would've been one of those rare instances where Kacey had two top 10's at the same time, one as a singer and one as a songwriter. My question is:
When was the last time an artist had 2 songs in the top 10: one as a singer of his own song, and as a songwriter of someone else's song?
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Post by Spacey_Kacey on Mar 29, 2013 10:25:02 GMT -5
^This doesn't answer that question because I have no idea, but Tim had two songs in the top 10 simultaneously with FLAR and BTIUTB last spring (summer?).
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Post by mep on Mar 29, 2013 14:33:52 GMT -5
FLAR only peaked at #11.
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 1, 2013 9:34:30 GMT -5
countryhistorian, I have a question. If Kacey Musgraves would've stayed in the top 10 with "Merry Go 'Round", and Miranda Lambert then got in with "Mama's Broken Heart", it would've been one of those rare instances where Kacey had two top 10's at the same time, one as a singer and one as a songwriter. My question is: When was the last time an artist had 2 songs in the top 10: one as a singer of his own song, and as a songwriter of someone else's song? My first stab at this question would be Taylor Swift. In August, 2009 her You Belong With Me was at #3 while Kellie Pickler entered the top ten (for her only time) with the Swift-penned Best Days Of Your Life at #10. The top ten chart for that week looked like: BILLBOARD TOP TEN FOR WEEK ENDING AUGUST 8, 2009: 1. People Are Crazy-Billy Currington-Mercury 2. Alright-Darius Rucker-Capitol 3. YOU BELONG WITH ME-TAYLOR SWIFT-BIG MACHINE 4. I Run To You-Lady Antebellum-Capitol 5. Whatever It Is-Zac Brown Band-Atlantic 6. Summer Nights-Rascal Flatts-Lyric Street 7. Boots On-Randy Houser-Universal South 8. Living For The Night-George Strait-MCA 9. Big Green Tractor-Jason Aldean-Broken Bow 10. BEST DAYS OF YOUR LIFE-KELLIE PICKLER-BNA I am sure I may be wrong here, but if someone else knows of a more recent example (even if I find one), please post it here. Thanks!
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