Billboard Hot 100 - 03/27/2010

[slw84]

No one claimed a label wouldn't hold hope for a boost when deciding to re-release a project. We are simply saying that re-releases do not guarantee extended success. Just like a regular release, they're hit or miss. Essentially, I don't see a re-release as "the easy way out" or "cheating".
But you are telling me something I already know. WHen I originally posted I cited examples of "tools" used by artist (double singles/re-releases). I wasn't referring to my opinion for or against it and then you went into this tangent on your views. I am aware of the hit or miss results.

Eh, labels push re-releases for many different reasons; it's not always due to a project failing to meet expectations. Take The Emancipation Of Mimi or Fearless for example. The original editions were already performing phonemically before their re-release. Sometimes, re-releases are approached to simply maximize potential.[/quote]

Good examples:

Mimi's album imo was re-released because they wanted her to sell more. She sold well already but they wanted to secure that #1 album spot...which they only did for the full album year not the Billboard Year (50 cent ) That was their plan. Sucks because it was her year and 50 released his in Feb where she released in April With that, 50 is an example of re-releasing to secure the #1 spot that he received.

Same could be said for Fearless. They were looking for the sales they received. It worked out quite well. Her sales for that album surpassed her previous which is very uncommon nowadays.

Confession is an example as well. They wanted that album to go diamond and without a re-release it might not have happened
That said, if they promoted an album to have a certain success that it is not having regardless of whether it is technically successful they opt for a re-release to get it to where they projected or wanted it to be. Seems logical. But yeah, you obviously have strong feelings about the support/h88te against re-release to turn an example I cited into a forum.

It's all good...you make some good points ;).

I hope with Rude boy hitting #1 that they don't go with having another album out soon. They need to at least release a 4th and 5th single this year.

[slw84]

Mar 21, 2010 15:00:11 GMT -5 nighttime said:

slw84

Thanks...it's nice making friends ;)

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Mar 21, 2010 15:37:29 GMT -5 slw84 said:

But you are telling me something I already know. WHen I originally posted I cited examples of "tools" used by artist (double singles/re-releases). I wasn't referring to my opinion for or against it

You were in the midst of glorifying Britney Spears when you insinuated her achievements were even more impressive because she has been able to move both albums and singles without the use of what you call "gimmicks" (re-releases, double-singles), as if it would automatically be easier to achieve both with re-releases and double-singles. I completely disagreed with this implication, so I responded.

and then you went into this tangent on your views.

It was the slight negative slant on re-releases buried within the post that triggered the discussion (it's not as if it came out of left field). Also, tangent? That's cute. It's called a discussion. Let's not use the exaggeration tool to try and strengthen our argument.

Mimi's album imo was re-released because they wanted her to sell more. She sold well already but they wanted to secure that #1 album spot...which they only did for the full album year not the Billboard Year (50 cent ) That was their plan. Sucks because it was her year and 50 released his in Feb where she released in April With that, 50 is an example of re-releasing to secure the #1 spot that he received.

Same could be said for Fearless. They were looking for the sales they received. It worked out quite well. Her sales for that album surpassed her previous which is very uncommon nowadays.

Confession is an example as well. They wanted that album to go diamond and without a re-release it might not have happened
That said, if they promoted an album to have a certain success that it is not having regardless of whether it is technically successful they opt for a re-release to get it to where they projected or wanted it to be.

You're totally missing the point. I was addressing your post that claimed re-releasing was more or less a way to boost sales of an album that didn't meet the label's expectations. I was providing you with examples to simply show that's not always the case. I am sure Confessions, The Emancipation Of Mimi, and Fearless (among countless other albums that were re-released) had met and even exceeded the label's expectations prior to being re-released. They simply re-released to capitalize on the success and to try to maximize the album's selling potential.

[slw84]

Mar 22, 2010 14:08:47 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Mar 21, 2010 15:37:29 GMT -5 slw84 said:

But you are telling me something I already know. WHen I originally posted I cited examples of "tools" used by artist (double singles/re-releases). I wasn't referring to my opinion for or against it

You were in the midst of glorifying Britney Spears when you insinuated her achievements were even more impressive because she has been able to move both albums and singles without the use of what you call "gimmicks" (re-releases, double-singles), as if it would automatically be easier to achieve both with re-releases and double-singles. I completely disagreed with this implication, so I responded.

But I was not referring to Britney, otherwise I would have said Britney. There are other examples: Fergie, Justin, Beyonce, Gaga, Pink, etc. It was all inclusive. Unless you disagree and think that they don't have strong album and single sales. ;)I think you jumped to conclusions because you are taking past situations. I understand where you went wrong So paranoid? Tsk Tsk...Unless you are saying she is the only one that represents that...which is not the case.

It was the slight negative slant on re-releases buried within the post that triggered the discussion (it's not as if it came out of left field). Also, tangent? That's cute. It's called a discussion. Let's not use the exaggeration tool to try and strengthen our argument.
>>>I would call it a tangent if someone merely cites an example that is not part of their main point and the responder talks about the issue with what other people think and how it is bothers them. Was re-releases even a central part...I don't so.

Mimi's album imo was re-released because they wanted her to sell more. She sold well already but they wanted to secure that #1 album spot...which they only did for the full album year not the Billboard Year (50 cent ) That was their plan. Sucks because it was her year and 50 released his in Feb where she released in April With that, 50 is an example of re-releasing to secure the #1 spot that he received.

Same could be said for Fearless. They were looking for the sales they received. It worked out quite well. Her sales for that album surpassed her previous which is very uncommon nowadays.

Confession is an example as well. They wanted that album to go diamond and without a re-release it might not have happened
That said, if they promoted an album to have a certain success that it is not having regardless of whether it is technically successful they opt for a re-release to get it to where they projected or wanted it to be.

You're totally missing the point. I was addressing your post that claimed re-releasing was more or less a way to boost sales of an album that didn't meet the label's expectations. I was providing you with examples to simply show that's not always the case. I am sure Confessions, The Emancipation Of Mimi, and Fearless (among countless other albums that were re-released) had met and even exceeded the label's expectations prior to being re-released. They simply re-released to capitalize on the success and to try to maximize the album's selling potential...
>>>For the reasons I stated in my prior post. Thanks for agreeing
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The end.

How is it that B.O.B. is constantly at #2 on itunes yet in the running for #1 on hot 100? Is it really that close? Is Lady A. out of the running? Their airplay on Pop is on the rise???

[slw84]

Mar 19, 2010 1:56:51 GMT -5 stooki3 said:

'I Got A Feeling' gonna be the first to hit the 6 million mark

Not Boom boom pow?

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Better yet, as I know this will be a lengthy back and forth, I'll just take my response to pm.

[pnobelysk]

Mar 22, 2010 18:07:01 GMT -5 slw84 said:

Mar 19, 2010 1:56:51 GMT -5 stooki3 said:

'I Got A Feeling' gonna be the first to hit the 6 million mark

Not Boom boom pow?

nope IGF is ahead in sales currently and higher on itunes than BBP