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Post by metalfan87 on May 25, 2010 15:49:57 GMT -5
the album version came out today. it's better than the radio edit
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 26, 2010 3:14:27 GMT -5
the album version came out today. it's better than the radio edit Ummm...I'd imagine, with all the swearing left in tact...
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Post by metalfan87 on May 27, 2010 10:49:59 GMT -5
video will premiere on Monday on MTV2
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Post by metalfan87 on May 31, 2010 7:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 31, 2010 14:28:09 GMT -5
^ Not bad. Definitely better than most of their videos from the past decade (see: "Falling Away From Me," "Make Me Bad," "Somebody Someone," "Thoughtless," "Right Now," "Everything I've Known," etc.). That being said, it feels like the squalor of Oildale/Bakersfield is over-the-top and a little exploitative.
(And I'm not used to seeing Ray behind the kit at all.)
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 31, 2010 23:05:27 GMT -5
I also thought that was pretty good.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 30, 2010 11:55:34 GMT -5
Well, this died fast.
This is actually their second worst charting single from a studio album ever on Alternative, and by far their worst lead single performance on the format since their breakthrough (even though the trends suggested they were already phasing out of the format and that Active Rock was their new core format)
Even so, when comparing this to other recent singles, this underperformed considerably there as well.
Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 30, 2010 12:09:49 GMT -5
And the album doesn't even come out for another 2 weeks. New single perhaps?
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 30, 2010 12:15:42 GMT -5
And the album doesn't even come out for another 2 weeks. New single perhaps? well, they can release a 2nd single before the album comes out, just like Creed did
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Post by American Idiot on Jun 30, 2010 17:51:10 GMT -5
And the album doesn't even come out for another 2 weeks. New single perhaps? well, they can release a 2nd single before the album comes out, just like Creed did I hate to mention it, but that didn't work very well for Creed, so I wouldn't expect it to work for Korn.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 30, 2010 18:03:26 GMT -5
if my memory served correctly, Overcome reached top 5 and Rain didn't even chart on Active. whichever the 2nd single from Korn is, it will chart supposedly
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Post by American Idiot on Jun 30, 2010 21:01:54 GMT -5
if my memory served correctly, Overcome reached top 5 and Rain didn't even chart on Active. whichever the 2nd single from Korn is, it will chart supposedly Oh, there's no doubt that it definitely will chart somewhere even if it's not very high because it's Korn. One of or if not the biggest band in the nu-metal scene over the past fifteen years. Really, they are one of the main bands who contributed to the whole scene in the first place.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 30, 2010 21:48:38 GMT -5
I'm kind of worried that this could be their first album in a long time to debut below a 6 figure number.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 30, 2010 21:50:14 GMT -5
I'm kind of worried that this could be their first album in a long time to debut below a 6 figure number. I might agree with u
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Post by metalfan87 on Jul 1, 2010 12:57:19 GMT -5
just listened to the album. it's better than the last two albums
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 1, 2010 14:11:58 GMT -5
I'm kind of worried that this could be their first album in a long time to debut below a 6 figure number. I think it'll have a five-figure debut. Their untitled predecessor sold 123,000 in its first week. It's true there wasn't a lot of promotion put behind it, but at the same time "Evolution" was a considerably more successful lead single. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 1, 2010 14:30:00 GMT -5
just listened to the album. it's better than the last two albums I've been hearing early reports of how it is one of their best albums since their debut, with most specifically citing the conciseness of the record working to the band's advantage, and the raw sound not sounding calculated overall. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jul 4, 2010 21:29:06 GMT -5
Removed from the Alternative chart as of today.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jul 6, 2010 18:50:28 GMT -5
any 2nd single predictions when u heard the album?
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Jul 11, 2010 3:00:10 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear their new album. Although I'm a fan of their older stuff (Untouchables and before).
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Post by lockebox on Jul 11, 2010 18:18:59 GMT -5
any 2nd single predictions when u heard the album? I haven't heard the album, but "Let the Guilt Go" is currently getting some airplay.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jul 12, 2010 8:29:11 GMT -5
any 2nd single predictions when u heard the album? I'll tell you when I get the album tomorrow.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jul 13, 2010 10:05:25 GMT -5
Korn 3 is #1 album on the iTunes rock album chart
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 14, 2010 3:39:48 GMT -5
This is how much I like the album cover.
It pisses me off so much that the deluxe edition uses a different photo from the shoot for the front cover. Even though the standard edition photo is spread out among the first two pages of the deluxe booklet, it's just not the same. I had such a tough time deciding between the deluxe edition (which has 3 2 extra songs and a DVD, for crying out loud) and the standard, that I'm seriously considering buying the standard version on sale at the end of the week if the album is otherwise good enough. Why did they have to use two different covers? FML.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jul 14, 2010 7:20:38 GMT -5
I think Let the Guilt Go should be the second single, not sure it'll do much though.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jul 14, 2010 17:22:09 GMT -5
projected album sales:
60-65K
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 15, 2010 0:55:45 GMT -5
Listened to the album twice now and if I was earning cash hand over fist, I'd go buy the standard edition for the artwork alone, but otherwise, there's no way I'm buying another copy of what is arguably the worst Korn album to date (The argument being their previous effort, Korn 2: Electric Boogaloo).
Even with Ross Robinson back in the producer's chair, even with the over-the-top production of the last two albums stripped away, you'd think Korn could write some decent, memorable songs. You'd think. No compelling riffs. No real melodies to speak of, in fact, aside from "Oildale," it sounds like Jonathan was forced to come up with his "melodies" on the spot while recording. They're that weak. The usual "f**k," "sh**," and "whore" laziness that has dogged Jonathan's lyrics for their entire career still rings loud and clear. And the whimpering and whining Jon does doesn't sound genuine. Ross may or may not have berated the sh** out of him again to find this emotion, but 15 years and millions of dollars later, it just sounds like Jon's playing a part. Oh, plus, despite the absent overproduction of the last two albums, there's nevertheless too much between-song noodling and noise that adds nothing to the songs but wasted time. In fact, the barely audible intro track "Uber-Time," is a complete waste of 1:30. Just start the album with "Oildale" and get on with it, guys! There's no suspension, no tension, again, it's just killing time.
Was Head really the musical brains of the band? Selfishly, I'd like for them to do another record with him, if for no other reason than to prove whether or not it's Head's absence that has knocked the quality of Korn's music so off course, or if it's just that their creative well as a band has run dry.
Assuming Head doesn't return to the fold for their next album, I hate to do this to one of my favorite bands of the past 14 years, but I'll have to cut the cord and stream the album first before deciding if I'll buy it, just like I did last year with 311, Marilyn Manson, and Weezer. I just don't want to be burned by a 4th mediocre Korn album in a row.
And I hate to rag on this album when it's only been in stores a couple days. I hate to rag on it when I've only listened to it twice. But I just don't see how it's possible for this set of songs to grow on me and change my mind about its place in their catalog.
And let's not kid ourselves about follow-up singles. None of them will be going anywhere.
Sad face. :(
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jul 15, 2010 7:26:51 GMT -5
Should be enough to get the album a #2 or #3 debut, although I think it'll sell a little higher.
I listened to the album yesterday as well. I honestly didn't think it was that bad. It was better than the untitled one in my opinion, at least.
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Post by pen on Jul 15, 2010 10:18:07 GMT -5
Ouch. I admit this new album doesn't sound very memorable after listening, but it sounds good while I'm listening to it, so I'm giving it time to grow on me. I don't know what I'd rank it yet. Although I actually think Korn's last two albums have been some of their best work and that was the direction I wanted them to continue in.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 17, 2010 2:46:47 GMT -5
Admittedly, I do find merit now in "Pop a Pill" and "Fear Is a Place to Live." Those should clearly be the two considered for the next single(s), but my early opinion still stands, more or less, as far as the rest of the album is concerned.
Fun fact: "Remember Who You Are" is an unrelated lyric from the bonus track "Trapped Underneath the Stairs." (At least I'm pretty sure it was that one and not "People Pleaser.")
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