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Post by pen on Jul 17, 2010 2:52:58 GMT -5
Yes, you're right, it is "Trapped Underneath The Stairs", and it's obvious to me that both it and "People Pleaser" were supposed to be on the album, judging from how well the former syncs up with the end of "Holding All These Lies" and from the latter's extended and unrelated outro.
So far I'm actually starting to dig the new album more and more. I realize it's not the new Korn album I wanted so I'm settling for trying to accept it as it is, and I'm finding that easier with each listen, strangely enough. I find the end of "Holding All These Lies" where Jonathan rips his headphones off and leaves the studio crying to be heartbreaking. Dude puts himself through so much grief on each album.
My favorites right now include "Pop A Pill" and also "Let The Guilt Go", "Move On", and "Lead The Parade", the latter of which I like mostly for the completely out of tune prechorus which kind of serves to highlight the tension and overall insanity that Korn seem to want to go for.
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Post by pen on Jul 17, 2010 2:56:16 GMT -5
I still don't get the point of "Uber-Time" though, except to pad out the album's tracklist. It segues into "Oildale" nicely enough, it just doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 17, 2010 4:30:25 GMT -5
Yes, you're right, it is "Trapped Underneath The Stairs", and it's obvious to me that both it and "People Pleaser" were supposed to be on the album, judging from how well the former syncs up with the end of "Holding All These Lies" and from the latter's extended and unrelated outro. So far I'm actually starting to dig the new album more and more. I realize it's not the new Korn album I wanted so I'm settling for trying to accept it as it is, and I'm finding that easier with each listen, strangely enough. I find the end of "Holding All These Lies" where Jonathan rips his headphones off and leaves the studio crying to be heartbreaking. Dude puts himself through so much grief on each album. My favorites right now include "Pop A Pill" and also "Let The Guilt Go", "Move On", and "Lead The Parade", the latter of which I like mostly for the completely out of tune prechorus which kind of serves to highlight the tension and overall insanity that Korn seem to want to go for. You raise some interesting and valid points, which open up different perspectives that will help me appreciate the album better. I will absolutely address this post properly within the next couple of days. No time left tonight. Unsure what kind of free time I'll have this weekend.
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Post by pen on Jul 17, 2010 23:22:24 GMT -5
"The Past" is joining my list of favorites and I actually think that should be a single at some point.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 28, 2010 15:17:04 GMT -5
So far I'm actually starting to dig the new album more and more. I realize it's not the new Korn album I wanted so I'm settling for trying to accept it as it is, and I'm finding that easier with each listen, strangely enough. I find the end of "Holding All These Lies" where Jonathan rips his headphones off and leaves the studio crying to be heartbreaking. Dude puts himself through so much grief on each album. I guess I was being too hard on Jonathan, especially listening to "Holding All These Lies" again. While the song is certainly no "Daddy" (which wasn't even autobiographical) or "Kill You," his anguished expletive scream after singing the last note and before ripping off the headphones (thank you, I didn't even realize that's what that was at first) is certainly heartbreaking. My favorites right now include "Pop A Pill" and also "Let The Guilt Go", "Move On", and "Lead The Parade", the latter of which I like mostly for the completely out of tune prechorus which kind of serves to highlight the tension and overall insanity that Korn seem to want to go for. I was definitely thinking that was the purpose of the pre-chorus in "Lead the Parade," but I'm glad you said it. I like Ray's quarter notes on the snare drum for most of the song (while no one will ever replace David in my eyes, Ray's certainly a beast back there), and the chorus is actually one of the strongest on the whole album. It definitely lifts the song higher than where I'd otherwise be ranking it. My favorites are still "Oildale," "Pop a Pill," and "Fear Is a Place to Live." "Let the Guilt Go" is still one of my least favorites (see its separate topic), as is "Are You Ready to Live?", but I'd definitely say the album is better than the previous one now. And even though the picture I love so much is not on the cover of my deluxe version, I'm definitely glad I have the two bonus tracks right there on my disc, because they are two of the better songs on the album, in my opinion. Having listened to their 3 most recent albums again last week before seeing them live for the fifth time, I definitely think the untitled album is my least favorite now. Seriously, I think "Evolution," "Starting Over," "Hold On," and "Kiss" are the only good songs on that 13-track album. But I also don't think See You on the Other Side or Take a Look in the Mirror hold up as well anymore, either. (SYOTOS is way too long, no awesome additions to their song catalog other than "Tearjerker." TALITM is definitely closer in quality to Korn III than the greatness of their first two albums. In fact, I'm thinking more and more now that Head wasn't necessarily the brains in the outfit, having listened to it again.
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