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Post by God on Jul 6, 2011 16:44:03 GMT -5
I'd love to catch the BTW Ball but I feel like all the good tickets will sell out too quickly. And I'm surprised she's keeping 'Dance in the Dark' for the setlist.
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Post by when the pawn... on Jul 6, 2011 18:35:07 GMT -5
Seems like it may be a very long show :) Old singles + Select Old Album Tracks + (moreorless) Entire BTW
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Post by kmbgs on Jul 6, 2011 20:24:18 GMT -5
The single HAS to be Scheisse, but if it's unexpected, I think it will be Americano (good) or You and I (bad).
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Post by When I Ruled the World on Jul 6, 2011 22:36:55 GMT -5
The single HAS to be Scheisse, but if it's unexpected, I think it will be Americano (good) or You and I (bad). I bet that You and I WILL be a single in the US before the end of the era (obviously since she said she was filming a video for it.. it would work best in the US). But I really think she needs to release something else next. TEOG will tear up the AC and HAC charts, so she needs to save the other HAC and AC song for a later single. You and I is a hit, but why use it after TEOG, when TEOG needs breathing room on HAC and AC? I really want "Scheisse", "Hair", and "You and I" all released at some point.
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Post by Black Jesus on Jul 7, 2011 8:42:07 GMT -5
BTW passes 3 million paid downloads! GaGaDaily was nice enough to post a digital sales update 6 million: Just Dance, Poker Face 4 million: Bad Romance 3 million: Born This Way, Paparazzi, Telephone (2.9 million) 2 million: Alejandro, Lovegame .... 700k: Judas Other singles: 2 million
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 10:05:16 GMT -5
Welll that's a very precise update...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 10:13:56 GMT -5
The single HAS to be Scheisse, but if it's unexpected, I think it will be Americano (bad) or You and I (amazing). fixed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 10:14:33 GMT -5
BTW passes 3 million paid downloads! GaGaDaily was nice enough to post a digital sales update 6 million: Just Dance, Poker Face 4 million: Bad Romance 3 million: Born This Way, Paparazzi, Telephone (2.9 million) 2 million: Alejandro, Lovegame .... 700k: Judas Other singles: 2 million Judas :'(
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Post by Black Jesus on Jul 7, 2011 12:39:45 GMT -5
HML won Song of the Year (so far) on MTV. Beat out Brit's TTWE!
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Post by bigb0882 on Jul 7, 2011 13:04:24 GMT -5
For the life of me I can't figure out what HML stands for....
Wait, Heavy Metal Lover? Then the results are a joke and must be over run by Gaga stans. No way a song that was never even a single would win a real award. I never understood the love for that song, anyway.
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Post by Black Jesus on Jul 7, 2011 14:05:27 GMT -5
According to Media Traffic (Global Albums chart), GaGa is beasting worldwide
To give perspective, TFM sold about 36k copies worldwide this week....Teenage Dream sold 33k. BTW sold 221k (#2 on the chart).
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Post by when the pawn... on Jul 7, 2011 14:07:46 GMT -5
What is BTW's 6-week worldwide total? 3 million yet?
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Post by Black Jesus on Jul 7, 2011 14:15:47 GMT -5
What is BTW's 6-week worldwide total? 3 million yet? It's gotta be closing in on 3 million if it hasn't yet. I wonder if we'll find out what the numbers are.
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Post by Oprah on Jul 7, 2011 14:19:15 GMT -5
Well, according to Mediatraffic it's at 3.1m or so.
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Post by when the pawn... on Jul 7, 2011 14:27:14 GMT -5
Through week 5, she sold 3.178m worldwide according to Media Traffic. Hasn't left the top 2. Refreshing, compared to the US trajectory. Perhaps this could sell 5m+ by year's end?
Also, Judas is still in the Top 20 Worldwide singles. Not bad!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jul 7, 2011 14:31:29 GMT -5
Almost 3.2 million after 5 weeks is pretty amazing. Adding in the sixth week should bring it somewhat close to 3.4 million. Will easily pass 4, but I am not sure about 5. Depends on how the next singles do.
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Jul 7, 2011 14:34:33 GMT -5
For the life of me I can't figure out what HML stands for.... Wait, Heavy Metal Lover? Then the results are a joke and must be over run by Gaga stans. No way a song that was never even a single would win a real award. I never understood the love for that song, anyway. The choices were James Montgomery's. He said after Gaga's 'Inside The Outside' that HML was his favorite song on the LP.
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Post by neally on Jul 7, 2011 18:08:04 GMT -5
Well, according to Mediatraffic it's at 3.1m or so. AMAZING !
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Post by nightshade on Jul 7, 2011 18:25:19 GMT -5
Here's a performance of Hair that she did in Singapore recently. Here are the other performances as well. Just DanceTelephoneAlejandroJudasThe Edge of GloryLove this performance of Hair especially when the crowd starts singing along during the bridge. So beautiful. I hope it's a single at some point.
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Post by When I Ruled the World on Jul 7, 2011 18:46:25 GMT -5
Gaga has sold 3,377,000 albums worldwide. Here is the breakdown: Week 1: 1,921,000 Week 2: 487,000 Week 3: 302,000 Week 4: 247,000 Week 5: 221,000 Week 6: 199,000 Total: 3,377,000 Not too shabby.
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Jul 7, 2011 22:15:48 GMT -5
T4P, F∆D|NG :)
She has really made me fall in love with 'Hair'. I would love to see her perform the song as it is on the CD but her acoustic performances have really sold me on it. <3
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Jul 7, 2011 22:19:05 GMT -5
The transformative pop star on making fantasy a realityText Lady Gaga Artwork, from left: Natalie Lines, Michael J. Robbins, Adrian Valencia V MAGAZINE GAGA MEMORANDUM No. 2Date: JULY 2011 Re: I DON’T SPEAK GERMAN BUT I CAN IF YOU LIKE From: M†SS.GAGA To: STEPHEN GAN Copy to: MRS. VREELAND HAUS OF GAGA V COLLECTIVE LITTLE MONSTERS THE WORLD FASHION-SEXUALS PHILIP TReACY MY LIVER MY MOLE MY PEARLS MY WIGS MY TOBACCO CIGS MY FIGS Art is a lie. And every day I kill to make it true. It is my destiny to exist halfway between reality and fantasy at all times. They call me “theatrical,” but I posit profusely that I am theatre, and that theatre is me. I am a show with no intermission. It is this thing that summons me from the depths of reality and reminds me that the power of transformation is endless. That I (we) possess something magical and transformative inside — a uniqueness and specialness waiting to be exiled from the depths of our identity. I have said before that I am a master of escapism, which many attribute to my wigs, performances, and my natural inclination to be grand, but perhaps that is also a lie. Maybe I am not escaping. Maybe I am just being. Being myself. The arrival at this revelation revises my previous escapist philosophies, as my entire being, thus far, as wholly artist and wholly human, has been propelled by the idea that I must effortlessly vacillate between two worlds: out of the real and into the surreal. Out of the ordinary, into the extraordinary. “I DON’T SPEAK GERMAN BUT I CAN IF YOU LIKE.” But as I delved quite deeply into this topic for my current album, I’ve reckoned that perhaps there is no pendulum. No need to distinguish between artifice and consciousness. The “notion” of escapism may be a lie, but for some of us this lie is our truth. You must desire the reality of fantasy so profusely that it becomes necessity, not accessory. The lines for myself have become so blurred now, I know not the difference between a moment of performance and a moment of honesty. If you were to ask me to remove my Philip Treacy hat at a party, in truth it is the emotional and physical equivalent of requesting I remove my liver. Talk about giving “clutching her pearls” a new meaning! I know not the difference between the hair that grows from my head and the teal wigs that grow from my imagination. They are the same. They are both honest, and always have been. So maybe I know nothing of “the art of escapism.” I was just Born This Way. I revere the dream to be real. I am always, and shall forever be, private in public. In this lies one of many books in the Bible of Fashion: in order for the FANTASY OF YOU to become the REALITY OF YOU, you must commit to the fantasy as wholeheartedly as you commit to your humanness. Wear out your vision. Proclaim your mission. Amen, Fashion! Style can transform and release your internal superstar. Whether it be one pair of shoes, some vintage sunglasses, a family heirloom, or a hair color that makes you feel as electric on the outside as you do on the inside. Acknowledge that this choice is a manifestation of an internal magic and the potential of your spirit. You are fan-tas-tic. And this fantasy is part of the real and honest you. It is a lie inside, waiting to be unlocked to become true. Scheiße. I just spoke some German. - vmagazine
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Post by Kishi KCM on Jul 8, 2011 9:56:40 GMT -5
Gosh, I love "Hair" as well. I'm enjoying all of these videos from her Asian Promo Tour.
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Post by Jay D83 on Jul 8, 2011 10:15:58 GMT -5
'Scheiße' HAS to be next! Just fun, 'seemingly mindless' pop. That's exactly what people need from her right now.
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Post by when the pawn... on Jul 8, 2011 12:18:04 GMT -5
The way she mentions "Scheiße"/references lyrics makes me think it's next. She usually falls into each single and lets it overtake her, if that makes any sense...in terms of outfit, attitude, etc. Each single so far (from all albums) has had a distinct air about it.
Though I guess she also referenced "Black Jesus + Amen Fashion".
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Post by wavey. on Jul 8, 2011 12:51:19 GMT -5
Fashion Of His Love, please. Its so funky!
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Jul 8, 2011 14:50:49 GMT -5
From Yoko Ono to Lady Gaga: how pop embraced performance artHow did performance art – once so reviled – come to be a pop staple? Alexis Petridis hears from Lady Gaga, Yoko Ono and others about its journey to mainstream acceptance The first time Marina Abramovic heard Antony Hegarty sing, she says, she burst into tears. "It was at a concert of Rufus Wainwright," explains the woman who sternly minds you not to refer to her as "the grandmother of performance art", despite a 40-year career that's variously involved inhaling carbon dioxide until she passed out, scrubbing the blood from 1,500 cow bones and sitting in the atrium of New York's Museum of Modern Art for 736 hours while visitors formed an orderly queue to stare at her. "He invites special guests – Lou Reed, Laurie Anderson – but in the middle of all this, Antony opens his mouth and sings one song called Snowy Angel. I stood up from my chair and burst out crying. His voice is an emotional hologram of my soul." The pair are currently collaborating on The Life and Death of Marina Abramovic, a play that examines her life from her childhood in postwar Yugoslavia through her performance work to a staging of her death. "When it came to do the play I said to Bob [director Robert Wilson], the only person in my life who can do the music is Antony, because it really corresponds," she says. "One of the similarities between Antony and me is that in the moment of performance you really step to your higher self. You create another type of reality for the audience to enter. That's why it's so emotional. It's so funny, everybody is crying at Antony's concerts and everybody was crying in Moma when they were sitting opposite me." Indeed, there seems nothing at all unusual about Hegarty collaborating with a performance artist. For one thing, his roots are in experimental theatre, and for another, the relationship between rock and pop and performance art appears to be blossoming as never before. In 2011, the biggest pop star in the world is Lady Gaga, a product of the same downtown New York club scene that spawned Hegarty, where what Gaga describes as an "interesting hybrid of performance art meets singer-songwriter-meets-drag-meets-theatre-meets-rock" is the common currency. "When I was really young, I was fascinated with performance artists," Lady Gaga says, on the phone from Taiwan. "Leigh Bowery, Klaus Nomi. And when I got older I became fascinated with Yoko Ono and Marina Abramovic. I grew up with them, and sort of naturally became the artist I am today. It wasn't until I started to play out in New York and my friends said, 'Look how much this has influenced you,' that I realised it. The one thing there wasn't on the Lower East Side was pop music. So as a pop songwriter, I thought that would be an interesting way to make a name for myself in this neighbourhood. I figured if I could play the grocery store around the corner as if it was Madison Square Gardens, maybe some day I can assimilate pop music into performance art in a more mainstream way." Looking at her sales figures, you have to say Gaga has succeeded beyond her wildest dreams: you wonder how the record labels who she says turned her down because they felt a mainstream audience couldn't stomach the more outré aspects of her performances feel now. Equally, you can see their point: pop and performance art traditionally have a very strained relationship. One theory is that rock and pop audience's negative reaction to anything that smacked of performance art was simply a legacy of public animosity towards Yoko Ono, the first performance artist to take her work to a pop audience: even before she met John Lennon, she performed Cut Piece, during which the audience were invited to attack her clothing with scissors at 1967's 14 Hour Technicolour Dream event at Alexandra Palace in London. "I thought what we were doing was high art, and there was a big difference between high art and pop music," Ono says. "High art inspires the human culture, pop music is entertainment. The mixture of high art with entertainment, which you needed to do so that people would accept it and understand what you were trying to do, was very challenging and interesting to me." But her association with Lennon and her move from performance work into making music – "it was easier to go into the studio and make music with John rather than say to him I was going to do a big performance piece in Paris. It was about us being together, using the situation" – was, initially at least, met with derision and outrage. "Before I started working with John, I felt I was communicating pretty well, actually. When I got together with John, I thought that I was doing the same thing, but suddenly the hostility was there. High art is never accepted by the masses," she says. "I accepted that a long time ago. I had a great time with John. There was great love between us. Those things counted more to me than being accepted by the people." There's an argument that the public's dim, if deeply unfair view of Ono – the woman who was held to have ruined the Beatles – tainted their attitude to performance artists who dared to dabble in rock music for years to come. Others feel the reasons are less straightforward. Abramovic thinks music and performance art fit perfectly together ("they're the highest forms of art because they're the most direct and the most immaterial"), but Laurie Anderson, who found herself catapulted from the New York performance art scene to pop stardom with the release of her 1981 single O Superman, initially felt the two worlds were entirely opposed to each other: performance art was by definition ephemeral, existing only in the moment of performance, which is the antithesis of making a record, something she only did because she got a grant of $500 and a friend argued she was being elitist. "Records were part of pop culture and I was a snob," she says. "Pop culture was for 10-year-olds. Nothing against 10-year-olds, but I was part of the avant garde, and we didn't want to be part of pop culture." She subsequently revised her opinion and entered into the world of rock wholeheartedly, but still feels performance artists are a difficult fit in the music business. "It's odd because people from record companies used to feel they could come into the studio and sit back and go: 'Think this needs more bass.' I wasn't really using bass. I was using things like a lot of birds. And I think those guys would have felt silly saying: 'I think you need more birds.'" She laughs. "I guess I was one of their vanity artists or something." Dan Fox, senior editor of art magazine Frieze, thinks the problem may have lain with mainstream antipathy to the visual arts in general. "We're suspicious of the visual arts because it's seen as somehow pretentious or a con job: if it's about the intangible and the ineffable, the idea that art can exist as an idea as much as a physical object that shows some degree of manufacturing or technical prowess, people are suspicious, and that's also fed by the connotations of the art world: big amounts of money, exclusivity, elitism. In rock music you have all these debates about being real and authentic, you know, three chords and the truth, that kind of thing. There's an idea that having some kind of different approach to performance is somehow antithetical to rock, because it's not about paying your dues." Whatever the reason, when three members of the confrontational performance art collective Coum Transmissions decided to form Throbbing Gristle in 1976 – "We were disgusted and disillusioned with the art world, it was too formalised and institutionalised for us, and we were excited by sound" says TG's Cosey Fanni Tutti – they seemed to succeed in upsetting everybody: not just the kind of people who were upset by punk, but the punks as well. They meticulously documented the reactions, which means you can hear the audiences howling in anger and dismay at their early shows on the live box set TG24 and the answering machine message from the music journalist baldly threatening to kill them on the 1978 album track Death Threats. In fairness, if you deal in churning grey noise topped off with lyrics about serial killers and concentration camps, you should probably expect people to get upset, but there's a sense that the objection wasn't merely to what Throbbing Gristle were doing, but to their artistic background. Tutti says the band were unbothered by their rockist critics: "I didn't even think about them to be honest, anybody else just didn't cross my radar. Why would I be interested in what the rock world thought about me?" Besides, the animosity had a positive effect. Ignored or vilified, Throbbing Gristle were forced to carve out their own niche, with lasting effects both on music – singlehandedly inventing a genre, industrial, that endures to this day – and the music industry. "We thought it would be fun to see how their business model worked, how we could subvert it, which we did. Rough Trade kind of came off the back of our label, Industrial Records. The whole independent scene kind of fell into place after that." Thirty-five years later, a musician spawned by performance art is adored rather than despised. Lady Gaga describes her appearance at the 2009 MTV Awards, during which she appeared to bleed to death from a gash on her stomach while singing Paparazzi as "a performance art piece that re-enacted the death of celebrity in front of all America". Cosey Fanni Tutti – not a fan – probably wouldn't thank you for pointing it out, but it doesn't seem too distant from Coum Transmissions' 70s experiments with fake blood and wounds and simulated suicides. Gaga's interest in performance art seems to have had an unexpected effect on the mainstream audience: when she mentioned Abramovic in an interview, the artist says, her Moma retrospective was suddenly flooded with "this enormous audience of kids between 12 and 18 spending hours there". Abramovic adds: "She's really a phenomenon. With the costumes, the blood, everything, she's really looking to art, and she's generous enough to say where the interest is coming from, which Madonna will never do." It could be that Lady Gaga has lured a mainstream audience with some pretty straightforward pop music, but there's always the chance her success indicates a shift in the mainstream audience's perception of performance art. Ono thinks that could be down to the cumulative effect of her forebears: "I think what we were doing was kind of a like a stepping stone, on a subconscious level. Maybe it was the preparation. This is happening now on a very big level." Back in Taiwan, Lady Gaga is musing on her success in balancing pop with performance art. No, she says, she never worries that the spectacle of the latter detracts from the former. "I'm both. I'm musician and pop singer and performance artist. I could conversely argue to you that sometimes the music takes away from the performance art," she laughs, and heads off, to perform a gig in front of 44,000 people. Link: www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jul/07/performance-art-pop-lady-gaga-yoko-ono?CMP=twt_guVideo of LG talking about Marina Abramovic
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Post by Black Jesus on Jul 8, 2011 15:27:31 GMT -5
Gaga has sold 3,377,000 albums worldwide. Here is the breakdown: Week 1: 1,921,000 Week 2: 487,000 Week 3: 302,000 Week 4: 247,000 Week 5: 221,000 Week 6: 199,000 Total: 3,377,000 Not too shabby. That is amazing!
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Post by LegendaryLover on Jul 8, 2011 22:04:22 GMT -5
She mentioned in a Singapore interview that she would want to die on stage when she is 85 years old.
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Post by discoloser on Jul 9, 2011 17:53:51 GMT -5
Scheibe (or w/e its spelled) wouldn't be a shock since fans WANT it bad. 'You & I' has to be the suprise single.
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