Lady Gaga - Born This Way (May 23)

[smack]

will i cross over? it's a very country song, very different from the rest of her songs. I like it as a country than any other type of song :)

[Deleted]

Good luck with this thread, buddy.

[smack]

lol, I don't expect a lot of push from country...look how long it took other artists to cross over

[McCreerian]

The day they play Gaga on a Country station is the day a Pop station will play George Strait! Just 2 WAY different worlds and not going to happen. Theres a better chance of the Republican congress making Pot legal than Gaga crossing over to Country!

[Hunter]

"You and I" does, to me, have an old-school Shania feel to it! Haha. One of my employees actually came into my office the other day, and upon hearing "You and I", she said, "Why are you playing this Country crap?"

LOL

[.indulgecountry]

I really don't get the country feel from this song at all. Its not the typical Lady Gaga dance-pop fare, but its certainly not country for me. I get a more pop/rock vibe from the song.

Regardless, I can't see country radio spinning Gaga, and this wasn't confirmed as a country release, anyway.

[David]

^What a flop!

[Love Plastic Love]

What makes me kind of sad is that if she had played the game just a weeeeee bit more this era could have blown up even more. Just a few more radio friendly songs and a bit more conservative in her performances/subject matter at times. But, seriously, she didn't pander and is still going to sell more than every pop star out there in worldwide sales*. And this is supposed to be her "flop" era LOL.
Plus, in the long term I am sort of thinking it may be better that she didn't compromise more.


(With the exception of if Rihanna re-releases which I think she is, but still that would be a cd release and a re-release and not just a normal cd release)

[Deleted]

There was a 'country' mix posted on some blog (the link was in the "Yoü and I" thread).

[Dustin J.]

Can we possibly get this "shifted" into the non-singles thread?

[glenpwood]

Well her imagery for this single is Elvis meets K.D. Lang but we all know how well Music Row embraced her.... If Universal threw enough promotional money behind it could possibly get to the 55-60 range of the chart but I think programmers see her as too Pop/Dance to ever consider her for their playlists.....

[43dudleyvillas]

Just as an explanatory note for why you will see a bunch of new posts in here about "You & I" being released as a country song: a poster started a new thread in the Country Forum about the possibility, but it was in violation of Country Forum rules about starting new threads (there must be an official source indicating the song will be sent to country radio and the poster failed to provide one). Instead of locking the thread and precluding further discussion, I moved those posts into this thread, where it appears that "You & I" is a topic of discussion anyway.

[Scotty]

I honestly think this proves Lady Gaga isn't concerned at all about album sales. She outwardly expresses her excitement when it comes to success, but in the long run, if she wanted maximum album sales she would have done what was needed for maximum album sales. It is really awesome to see someone do what they want for the sake of art and not conform to what labels clearly want their women to look like.

And I really want to stress how amazing it is that so many people call album sales like that flopping. It outlines the kind of expectation people hold on Lady Gaga and how people receive her; they hold her to the highest standards possible. OR they just hate her, are angry, and want to troll. It's a mix of both.

I also agree with LPL. In ten years people will remember this era because it was crazy and really unique music-wise and image-wise.

[jazzyskye10²]

Date: September 2011

Re: Extreme Critic Fundamentalism

From: M†SS. GAGA

To: Stephen Gan

Copy to:
Ms. Vreeland
Haus of Gaga
Nicola Formichetti
V Collective
Little Monsters
The World
Art Historians
Intellectuals
Journalists
Columnists
Cathy Horyn

Doesn’t the integrity of the critic become compromised when their writings are consistently plagued with negativity? When the public is no longer surprised or excited by the unpredictability of the writer, but rather has grown to expect the same cynicism from the same cynic? When we can predict the same predictable review from the same predictable reviewer? Accomplished creators of fashion and music have a visceral effect on the world, which is consequently why they are publicly distinguished. So why do so many notable critics seem so impervious to the emotion of the work? Why such indifference? Does intellectualism replace feeling? It’s so easy to say something is bad. It’s so easy to write, “One star, hated it, worst show of the season.” It’s much more challenging to reckon with and analyze a work. It requires research, but maybe no one does their research anymore. So my question, V readers, is this: when does the critique or review become insult and not insight? Injury and not intellect?

I’m going to propose a term to describe this movement in critical journalism: Extreme Critic Fundamentalism. I define this term as instilling fear in the hopes and dreams of young inventors in order to establish an echelon of tastemakers. There is a difference between getting a B- in Biology with a series of poignant red marks from your teacher and being given a spanking with a ruler by an old nun. The former we can learn from, while the latter is just painful. The artist is the general and captain of his or her artistic ship, always ready and willing to take the first blow and drown if an iceberg is hit. But in reviews, should critics not reveal all the scientific, mathematical, and pertinent information to explain why the Titanic could not withstand the blow, or why other cruise ships were successful?

* The temperature of the water.
* The construction of the ship.
* The weight of the cargo.
* The number of passengers.
* The disorganization of the crew.

Where my argument leads is to the perspective space of art, which is subjective and not ultimately rooted in mathematics or physics. Is it not even more critical for fashion and art critics to be profusely informed not only in art history but in the subliminal? The public operates with the assumption that critics are experts in their respective fields. But are they? Does every critic have the soul to really receive a work in the transcendental sense? The out-of-body experience of art?

In the age of the Internet, when collections and performances are so accessible to the public and anyone can post a review on Facebook or Twitter, shouldn’t columnists and reviewers, such as Cathy Horyn, employ a more modern and forward approach to criticism, one that separates them from the average individual at home on their laptop? The public is certainly not stupid, and as Twitter queen, I can testify that the range of artistic and brilliant intellectuals I hear from on a daily basis is staggering and inspiring. In the year 2011, everyone is posting reviews. So how does someone like Ms. Horyn separate herself from the online pack? The reality of today’s media is that there are no echelons, and if they’re not careful, the most astute and educated journalists can be reduced to gossipers, while a 14-year-old who doesn’t even have a high school locker yet can master social media engines and, incidentally, generate a specific, well-thought-out, debatable opinion about fashion and music that is then considered by 200 million people on Twitter. Take Tavi Gevinson. She’s 15, and Rodarte created an entire project inspired by her. Her site is thestylerookie.com. I adore her, and her prodigious and well-written blog is the future of journalism. The paparazzi has similarly been usurped by the camera-toting everyman. That magical moment of the movie star posing in front of the Metropolitan Museum is no longer so magical. Now everyone has a ****ing cell phone and can take that same ****ing picture.

Why do we harp on the predictability of the infamous fashion critic? The predictability of the most notoriously harsh critics who continue writing their notoriously harsh reviews? Why give the elephant in the room a peanut if it has already snapped its trunk at you? That peanut was dead on arrival. To be fair, Ms. Horyn, the more critical question to ask is: when did the pretense of fashion become more important than its influence on a generation? Why have we decided that one person’s opinion matters more than anyone else’s? Of all the legendary designers I have been blessed to work with, the greatest discovery has been their kindness and their lack of pretense. They care not for hierarchy or position. They are so good, and so precise, that all that matters to them while they’re pinning their perfectly customized garment to my body is the way it makes me feel. Perhaps the pretension belongs in formaldehyde. And the hierarchy is embalmed — for us all to remember nostalgically, and honor that it once was modern, but is now irrelevant. Peanut.

VMagazine.com

[nightshade]

Great piece she wrote there.

[Scotty]

Very, very well written.

[Love Plastic Love]

I like what she wrote, but I wish she didn't name the person who bashed her because everyone is just saying OMG SHE IS JUST BUTT HURT ABOUT THAT WOMAN!!!!!
I guess they would say that anyway though.

[Deleted]

You can hear a clip of "The Lady Is A Tramp" with Tony Bennett here.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KNV9LG/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=1314976813&sr=8-1&tag=pbv-20

[jazzyskye10²]

While Gaga's criticism towards Cathy was due to her writing out her view of Gaga's TEOG video with absolutely no merit, her words go far beyond Cathy.

The last instance was not the first time that Cathy has targeted Gaga, granted when she wrote her review of 'Alejandro' that was laced with backhanded compliments, she did not go on twitter and announce that she was no longer going to follow Gaga. Yes. These were the words of a 54 year old woman and not a preteen.

For all of Cathy's expertise about fashion, she reduced her words to that of anyone of Gaga's detractors who make negative baseless comments and try to pass them off as a critique. That is where Gaga's criticism comes from. It's unfortunate that many feel that critics should be able to criticize but they themselves should be immune to any and all criticism and if or when one dares to speak up for themselves and question what makes this critic's opinion more important than anyone else, as Gaga has done, they are deemed butt hurt.

Yet at the end of the day, LPL as you said, because it is Gaga many would say such nonsense regardless.

[jazzyskye10²]

Sept 2, 2011 12:41:35 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

You can hear a clip of "The Lady Is A Tramp" with Tony Bennett here.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KNV9LG/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=1314976813&sr=8-1&tag=pbv-20

T4P...Can't wait to hear the full version. :)

[Deleted]

Sept 2, 2011 12:41:35 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

You can hear a clip of "The Lady Is A Tramp" with Tony Bennett here.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KNV9LG/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=1314976813&sr=8-1&tag=pbv-20

Wow. Thanks.

[JayBoozer]

Sept 2, 2011 12:41:35 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

You can hear a clip of "The Lady Is A Tramp" with Tony Bennett here.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KNV9LG/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=1314976813&sr=8-1&tag=pbv-20

OMG who knew that GaGa had such an amazing jazz voice. So versatile :'( :'( :'(

[Black Jesus]

Sept 2, 2011 12:41:35 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

You can hear a clip of "The Lady Is A Tramp" with Tony Bennett here.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KNV9LG/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=1314976813&sr=8-1&tag=pbv-20

I love it!

[Gravity.]

DAMN! I just listened to the preview of Gaga's duet with Tony. It's fucking awesome!

[Kishi KCM]

I'm seeing this performance for the first time and I love it!!

[Deleted]

An interview to Belgian newspaper Le Soir during the promotion of "W.E." in Venice brings us what it seems the first - and super smart - Madonna comment about Gaga in ages.

Here's how it goes:
Le Soir: "Dans W.E., vous filmez la romance de Wallis Simpson à travers le regard contemporain d’une jeune femme admirative, Wally. On pourrait y voir le regard de vos fans sur vous. Voire celui de Lady Gaga? "

Le Soir: "In W.E. you filmes the Wallis Simpson love story through the contemporary eyes of a young woman who admired her, Wally. Could we see in that the way your fans look at you? Or the way Lady Gaga does?"

Madonna: "De mes fans ? Disons que ce qui m’intéresse avec le regard de Wally, c’est d’arriver à percer la vérité sur Wallis Simpson. Et s’apercevoir que rien n’est jamais tout blanc ou tout noir. Vrai ou faux. La vie est de couleur grise. Et on ne peut enfermer personne dans une case. Quant à Lady Gaga, je n’ai pas de commentaire à faire sur ses obsessions ayant trait à moi, parce que je ne sais pas si ça repose sur quelque chose de profond ou de superficiel."

Madonna: "Of my fans ? Let's say that what interests me in Wally's approach is to arrive to percieve the truth about Wallis Simpson. An realize that nothing is completely black or white. Truth or false. Life comes in gray color. And you can't put a human being in a box. Speaking of Lady Gaga, I have no comments about her obsessions related to me, because I don't know if they are based on something profound or superficial."

Let's keep in mind this is a printed interview with chances of more than a little something being lost in translation back and forth, but perhaps it's finally time to hear some words of wisdom about this... Liz, can you hear me?

www.madonnatribe.com/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6048

[jazzyskye10²]

Gaga covers US Harper's Bazaar October issue:



The Real Lady Gaga

Be it minimal or maximal, the star's iconic look comes naturally. Read the whole interview below and see Gaga bare all in exclusive new photos here.

By Laura Brown

A few months ago, Donatella Versace threw open the doors of the Versace archive in Milan, which contains pieces from the glorious, Medusa'd peak of the Gianni years, for Lady Gaga to plunder at will. "It was me and my friends," Gaga remembers of this particular fashion moment. "We were all running around this warehouse laughing and putting on jackets and shoes. We started crying at one point. I've been dreaming of seeing those outfits my whole life."

It's not a secret that Lady Gaga loves to dress up — in Mugler, in Alexander McQueen, in meat. Lately, "there are some amazing emerging kids from Parsons. I've been wearing a lot of young designers," she explains. She wore a custom-made Hussein Chalayan dress in her recent "Yoü and I" video and chuckles that without McQueen, "I'd be naked." But for this shoot, which will soon be seen in a "fashion film" created in collaboration with photographers Inez van Lamsweerde and Vinoodh Matadin, a basically barefaced Gaga is very deliberately dressed down.

While this might seem a departure from more theatrical Gaga garb, she doesn't see the slightest difference. "I don't really view it as 'natural,'" she explains. "I think that artifice is the new reality. It's more about just being honest and sincere to the core of what you do. Whether I'm wearing lots of makeup or no makeup, I'm always the same person inside."

But does she ever look in the bathroom mirror in the morning and think, Here we go again? "Sometimes I do. It all really depends on my mood for the day. But I think the perception that I 'put it on' every day is probably not true."

In Gaga's mind, "putting it on" is subject to interpretation. "Don't you think that what's on the cover of a magazine is quite artificial?" she asks. "There's this idea that it's all natural, but everything's been staged to look natural. It is also an invention. It's just that my inventions are different. I often get asked about my artifice, but isn't fashion based on the idea that we can create a fantasy?"

One could suppose that her little monsters might be disappointed, though, if she started wearing jeans and T-shirts. "I try to not focus on what people expect from me," she says. "I think what has been lovely about my relationship with the public is that they expect something unexpected from me."

What is expected of Gaga is her love for fashion and her ability to use it, quite literally, as a performance enhancer. For all her love of couture — her custom Armani dresses, her epic love story with stylist and Mugler designer Nicola Formichetti, all those supermodular Versaces — "there's this one pair of shoes I've had for years, and they cost like $25. I have such an emotional attachment to the shoes that every time I see them, I can hear the fans and feel the bass coming through the bottom of the stage."

Sometimes, of course, shoes are the most substantial part of a Gaga outfit; her body image is as fearless as her fashion. "I'm very free-spirited," she says, like a Swede in a spa. "Even when I was a kid, I used to run around naked with the babysitter, driving her crazy." She attributes her body confidence to dancing, and "I do yoga, I do Bikram and I run, and I eat really healthy. You know, my work sort of feeds me. I keep in shape by working hard."

Even when she's not touring, Gaga works "about 16 to 20 hours a day. And when I'm alone, I write, I imagine, I create things, and I decide how I want to do my future performances. I don't take much time off."

And due to her crushing travel schedule, Gaga spends a lot of time on her own. "When you're alone as much as I am," she observes, "you become accustomed to your solitude and embrace it." Of late, she's been immersing herself in plays. "I love John Patrick Shanley. And I've been reading some books that I loved when I was in theater school, like Bertolt Brecht. Those books really changed my life."

Gaga has also taken up surfing, which she tried for the first time on a princely two-day vacation to Mexico in August. "I fell off a lot in the beginning," she says, "but one of the surfers said to me, 'Now that you can stand up, just look into the future and enjoy the ride.' I thought that was an interesting metaphor about life."

Gaga tweeted a picture of herself to her 13 million followers, writing, "Yeah, that's me. No heels, baby." She was a natural.












Extra Info: The picture, taken by Dutch photographers Inez van Lamsweerde and Vinoodh Matadin on the set of Gaga’s music video for “Yoü And I,” is the fashion magazine’s first black-and-wite cover in over twenty years.


GGD/Harper's Bazaar

[Black Jesus]

TOUR TOUR TOUR TOUR!!!!!

@ladygaga: Amazing we've started! Can't wait to be back on tour I miss you all so much @edianb: @ladygaga how is the Born this way Ball planning going?

Edit: and now "BTW Ball" is trending worldwide :)

[Wolfy]

Lady Gaga is the 4th most searched celebrities on the web globally. Impressive since above her is only Shakira, Obama & Bush.

Worldwide List

1. Shakira - 198.135.383
2. Barack Omaba - 154.256.563
3. George W Bush - 114.276.940
4. Lady Gaga - 85.408.752

www.thewiplist.com/top-100/

Gaga's history on that chart:

[Black Jesus]

The "Judas" music video has just broken 100 million views on YouTube, the first video from BTW to do so!