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Post by Luckie Starchild on Dec 10, 2022 20:34:54 GMT -5
I'm still a bit hopeful given that her August 2023 concert dates have not been rescheduled or cancelled plus I think she looks good.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 10, 2022 21:46:12 GMT -5
I wonder if this is the reason why IACMBTM (Movie) was delayed until next year. It sounded like Celine makes some sort of cameo, but I'm guessing that was a small bit filmed in 2021.
I was quite surprised to read so many negative comments on the socials. I had no idea she was that polarizing and such. I only wish her the best.
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Post by colson on Dec 11, 2022 3:40:05 GMT -5
The last thing she should be thinking about is touring considering her health condition. She needs to just worry about her health and getting better. Isn't her condition incurable?
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Post by someguy on Dec 11, 2022 3:54:22 GMT -5
So sad. I've been worried about her for awhile, but this certainly isn't what I expected. She is such an icon and an all-around good person. I hope she pulls through.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Dec 11, 2022 12:20:55 GMT -5
The last thing she should be thinking about is touring considering her health condition. She needs to just worry about her health and getting better. Isn't her condition incurable? Yes it's incurable and progressively degenerative in nature. From all accounts of what I've been reading it sounds like pure hell to live with and is worsened particularly by stress/anxiety. This must be especially challenging for Celine given she is an industry solely responsible for so many people's jobs and livelihoods, not to mention what she must be feeling personally for her young kids as their sole (now incapacitated) parent after losing Rene. She has been through too much the last five years. =(
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Dec 11, 2022 12:32:13 GMT -5
Incurable doesn't mean untreatable.
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Post by colson on Dec 11, 2022 12:59:35 GMT -5
If it was treatable, she wouldn't be having all of these delays unless they literally just found out the name of her health condition, what it's called and if it's treatable moving forward.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Dec 11, 2022 13:16:15 GMT -5
If it was untreatable, she wouldn't be having all of these delays, she would be cancelling her upcoming tour dates altogether. Y'all sound like a bunch of Debbie Downers getting ready to bury Céline over here. How about we instead leave the prognosis and predictions up to her medical team and see how it goes?
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 11, 2022 13:22:52 GMT -5
Heartbreaking news!
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Post by johnm1120 on Dec 11, 2022 13:51:31 GMT -5
I think eventually she will tour again, although probably to a smaller scale. After this tour I think she will stick to limited Vegas runs.
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Post by 85la on Dec 11, 2022 19:34:11 GMT -5
Ok so I do feel I have to get this out of the way. This is nice that a fan account is sending well wishes to Celine, but has Mariah herself said anything? (I wasn't able to find any statements from her on her socials or anything, but if someone has something, let me know). I can only think of Mariah's long history of shading Celine, all seemingly completely unprovoked. There are certainly things we don't know that might have gone on between the two of them behind the scenes, but without such knowledge, we can only judge by what we know, and it all seems to be tied to that one night at the VH1 Divas Live concert in 1998, where Celine simply might have performed a little better and outshone her a bit. Even in her memoir, Mariah devoted almost an entire chapter to a rather cruel attack and play-by-play of that night. It's rather strange that someone would harbor such an intense and longstanding grudge over something as inconsequential as this that happened over 20 years ago, and as a huge fan of both divas, to see one attacking the other in this way is quite offensive and even hurtful.
Anyway, I am very sorry to see Celine struggle with this devastating condition, and I agree that her priority should not be touring or performing at all, but focusing on hopefully getting her health to some degree of manageability, and I only wish her the best!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 19:42:48 GMT -5
Mariah unlike yourself and Mariah fan accounts actually has Celine phone number and there is countless interviews that both have been praising each other. Mariah over the years thanked Celine for helping her get pregnant with her twins (https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a285148/mariah-carey-thanks-dion-for-pregnancy/) and even though she didnt tweet about it Mariah said she sent Celine something when her husband passed and sent her a note. That only came out cause she was asked directly. Mariah isnt just the type to put everything she does on social media
And you're being extremely dramatic. Mariah never attacked her she said SHE doesn't believe anyone should try to go toe to toe and riff it out with the Queen of Soul Aretha. That's just Mariah she believes in respect and being in the background when it comes to legends that came before her.
And they know each other and like each other enough so that Celine played her album to Mariah and hung out. Let's focus on Queen Celine and her healing not some fake stan media division
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Post by 85la on Dec 11, 2022 20:24:37 GMT -5
Mariah unlike yourself and Mariah fan accounts actually has Celine phone number and there is countless interviews that both have been praising each other. Mariah over the years thanked Celine for helping her get pregnant with her twins (https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a285148/mariah-carey-thanks-dion-for-pregnancy/) and even though she didnt tweet about it Mariah said she sent Celine something when her husband passed and sent her a note. That only came out cause she was asked directly. Mariah isnt just the type to put everything she does on social media And you're being extremely dramatic. Mariah never attacked her she said SHE doesn't believe anyone should try to go toe to toe and riff it out with the Queen of Soul Aretha. That's just Mariah she believes in respect and being in the background when it comes to legends that came before her. And they know each other and like each other enough so that Celine played her album to Mariah and hung out. Let's focus on Queen Celine and her healing not some fake stan media division You're right, and let me make it clear that I wasn't attacking you specifically, I just wanted to express an opinion I had about the two of them, which I believe I did in an overall constructive and respectful way and which I still stand firmly by, but yes, the focus should be on Celine's healing, and if it is the case that the two of them are somewhat friendly, I'd be all for that.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Dec 11, 2022 20:42:42 GMT -5
And you're being extremely dramatic. Mariah never attacked her she said SHE doesn't believe anyone should try to go toe to toe and riff it out with the Queen of Soul Aretha. That's just Mariah she believes in respect and being in the background when it comes to legends that came before her. Yeah, that's just Mariah being Mariah... she likes to show respect by acting like a bump on a log.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 20:48:19 GMT -5
And you're being extremely dramatic. Mariah never attacked her she said SHE doesn't believe anyone should try to go toe to toe and riff it out with the Queen of Soul Aretha. That's just Mariah she believes in respect and being in the background when it comes to legends that came before her. Yeah, that's just Mariah being Mariah... she likes to show respect by acting like a bump on a log. That's what people say about you not me others say that! I enjoy your funny little trolling moments. I say its better a bump on a log than a bump on the lips or the tip..
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Dec 16, 2022 1:11:08 GMT -5
So slightly off-topic, but while we are here...
Personally, as a long-time fan of both Mariah and Celine, I always found Mariah's fixation on Celine's VH1 Divas performance perplexing. Firstly, Celine has only ever spoken lovingly, if not gushingly of Mariah and her voice and (as was mentioned above) even personally helped Mariah with her own invitro-fertilization process (despite Mariah's passive shade in the press), so I can't imagine why Mariah would, after all of this, still feel the need to cast further criticism Celine's way (it gives literal mean girl vibes). Even diving into said concert and criticism further, Mariah herself sang alongside Aretha that night and had no qualms belting and rifting alongside her in call/response styles. Aretha was asking for her fellow performers to lift the performance and Aretha afterward was shown to have no issues with Celine or had anything negative to say about her or her experience with her whatsoever. It really was an issue IMO that began and end with Mariah's own insecurities of her own vocals that night (which though strong, weren't the strongest next to Celine's). Sure some could argue she was just speaking her opinion on something, but to do it not once, not twice, but on several occasions, going so far as to physically publish the criticism forever in fine print when the woman has done nothing but speak lovingly of you and do nothing but good for you is nothing if not a hit for your character in my book and shows she was way too personalizing something that had nothing to do with her to begin with. 9/10 times when people say Mariah doesn't start stuff with anyone she just responds they are dead on, but with Celine she always got it wrong in my opinion.
Ultimately I hope Mariah can just let it go finally and I hope, personally, she did reach out to her in private during this difficult time, as they have much more in common and to bond over than anyone would like to think. Our legends need to stick together.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Dec 16, 2022 21:39:32 GMT -5
so I can't imagine why Mariah would, after all of this, still feel the need to cast further criticism Celine's way It's a defense mechanism. Céline is highly regarded for her stage presence and that would trigger feelings of inadequacy. Through her criticism of Céline's performance, Mariah is able to neutralize feelings of envy and maintain a positive self-concept.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 21:55:45 GMT -5
I hate yall turned this glorious Canadian legend and talented woman thread into talking about another diva. Sad. Celine deserves her own topic.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Dec 16, 2022 22:26:30 GMT -5
I hate yall turned this glorious Canadian legend and talented woman thread into talking about another diva. Sad. Celine deserves her own topic. There is quite the disingenuous stretch going on here. This thread is still very much about Celine and has been for the entirety of its 30+ pages. Even the topic you're trying to insinuate derails the thread is about a direct interaction between Mariah and.....Celine. It would have been easier to say you don't want people speaking on any matter that might paint Mariah in a less than flattering light. I mean by your own logic we could use the one or two posts referencing Darlene or whatever random artist in Mariah's thread here and there to claim she no longer has her "own topic". Like, you're discussing Whoopi in Mariah's thread at the moment! lol I love you, but c'mon now. Either way, as I said before, I hope Mariah has personally reached out to her, even if she hasn't done so publicly and hopefully Celine has a health team behind her that is aggressively attacking this illness with the best they've got!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 22:43:53 GMT -5
I hate yall turned this glorious Canadian legend and talented woman thread into talking about another diva. Sad. Celine deserves her own topic. There is quite the disingenuous stretch going on here. This thread is still very much about Celine and has been for the entirety of its 30+ pages. Even the topic you're trying to insinuate derails the thread is about a direct interaction between Mariah and.....Celine. It would have been easier to say you don't want people speaking on any matter that might paint Mariah in a less than flattering light. I mean by your own logic we could use the one or two posts referencing Darlene or whatever random artist in Mariah's thread here and there to claim she no longer has her "own topic". Like, you're discussing Whoopi in Mariah's thread at the moment! lol I love you, but c'mon now. Either way, as I said before, I hope Mariah has personally reached out to her, even if she hasn't did so publicly. Darlene Love doesn't have stans. When people who troll like Rich boiled Lockie Starchild starts inciting inevitably lambs will be here to correct the lies. This whole many posts of Mariah started after Celine announced a health scare so this discussion seems pointless to me after that. Its not like Mariah and Celine was even debated before that which would have been better. Its rich you talking about painting anyone in a positive light when I've seen dissertations when Taylor Swift is criticized in your eyes unfairly so you should understand why as a fan of Mariah I too dislike false narratives and pitting uber talented vocalists who are friends against each other when there is plenty of nasty, non talented fools acting a fool
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Dec 16, 2022 22:57:08 GMT -5
Darlene Love doesn't have stans. When people who troll like Rich boiled Lockie Starchild starts inciting inevitably lambs will be here to correct the lies. This whole many posts of Mariah started after Celine announced a health scare so this discussion seems pointless to me after that. Its not like Mariah and Celine was even debated before that which would have been better. Its rich you talking about painting anyone in a positive light when I've seen dissertations when Taylor Swift is criticized in your eyes unfairly so you should understand why as a fan of Mariah I too dislike false narratives and pitting uber talented vocalists who are friends against each other when there is plenty of nasty, non talented fools acting a fool I don't know anything about the aforementioned user personally nor do I know of their posting history so I wouldn't know anything about intent, motive, or the like. I just casually noticed the topic at hand being discussed and wanted to give my opinion. Not much deeper than that. As far as you seeing me writing "dissertations" when I felt Taylor Swift was "unfairly criticized" in my eyes I am absolutely sure you did as did many others here and I do not hide from the fact nor from my history. Was only in the last year or so that I've done a *lot* of changing and have distanced myself from many of those unhealthy behaviors. You call it rich, I call it growth. At the end of the day it's unhealthy for any of us to believe that *anyone* from Celine to Taylor to Mariah is above criticism or wrongdoing. Who I am today is as quick to call out Taylor for her BS as I am to praise her. Same as any other artist I enjoy. No more stan goggles for me please.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 16, 2022 23:27:30 GMT -5
I think people put too much effort into expecting celebrities to voice every thought about every event that happens at any time. I don’t follow Mariah super closely but I’m sure she felt some emotion related to sadness over it and reached out to her in some way. Either way, is it any of our business? They’re people and it’s a very emotional and personal situation. With everything to get petty over, this isn’t it.
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Post by johnm1120 on Dec 17, 2022 19:12:18 GMT -5
Last update was in March. New numbers for Celine's top 30 most streamed songs and top 10 albums.
1 1 My Heart Will Go On 421.1 2 2 Because You Loved Me 314.8 3 3 It's All Coming Back To Me Now 180.1 4 4 The Power of Love 139.3 5 8 I'm Alive 121.1 6 5 Ashes 118.1 7 7 Beauty & The Beast (w/Peabo Bryson) 117.6 8 9 All By Myself 116.2 9 6 Happy Xmas (War Is Over) 113.8 10 10 That's The Way It Is 97.3
11 11 The Prayer (w/Andrea Bocelli) 88.3 12 12 Por que tu m'aimes encore 87.5 13 13 The Power of Love (Radio Edit) 64.7* 14 14 Think Twice 56.4 15 16 J'irai ou tu iras 53.5 16 15 How Does A Moment Last Forever 49.4 17 17 Sous le vent (w/Garou) 48.5 18 21 Immortality (w/Bee Gees) 44.1 19 18 I Drove All Night 43.5 20 20 A New Day Has Come (Radio Mix) 43.2
21 19 It's All Coming Back To Me Now (Radio Edit) 40.9* 22 22 To Love You More (Radio Edit) 38.2 23 23 Tell Him (w/Barbra Streisand) 34.9 24 24 Loved Me Back to Life 26.1 25 28 I Surrender 25.9 26 27 A New Day Has Come (Original Version) 25.4 27 25 Alone 25.2 28 26 Imperfections 25.1 29 30 I Believe in You (Je crois en toi) (w/Il Divo) 24.6 30 29 On ne change pas 24.1
Top streamed albums (excluding compilations):
No change in ranks since the last update.
1 Falling Into You 706.4 2 Let's Talk About Love 556.1 3 These Are Special Times 300.4 4 A New Day Has Come 254.9 5 The Colour of My Love 229.6 6 D'eux 226.1 7 Celine Dion 175.3 8 Courage 125.6 9 Loved Me Back To Life 83.4 10 One Heart 73.7
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Post by bat1990 on Dec 18, 2022 21:54:15 GMT -5
I love how high "I'm Alive," "Ashes," and PQTME are.
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Post by johnm1120 on Dec 19, 2022 21:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 on Jan 2, 2023 19:34:46 GMT -5
It's very weird to see a list with Mariah and Whitney included without Celine. Growing up, they were the holy trinity vocals in this household.
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Post by 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 on Jan 3, 2023 19:22:20 GMT -5
Even Inside Edition is talking about this...
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 3, 2023 19:25:06 GMT -5
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 3, 2023 23:46:49 GMT -5
Excellent taste, especially that #1!!! Mine would be very similar, I think I would include Love Is All We Need and Then You Look at Me over BATB and Us. Gods, I just love One Heart so much...
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