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Post by tsr on Sept 12, 2010 21:25:39 GMT -5
I loved that song. Unless they release it to iTunes very soon, I hope I forget about it until the album release because it will be stuck in my head for the longest time. lol. But I'm glad she didn't try to turn the situation into a 'I-don't-forgive-you-screw-you' type song. I don't think everyone realizes yet though that she was forgiving him. I'm even more excited for this album now!
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Sept 12, 2010 21:29:20 GMT -5
I want an MP3 now. The song sounded great
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Post by Stephen on Sept 12, 2010 21:38:34 GMT -5
I can't at how great that is. That song alone >>>> her other work. That should have been the lead single.
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Post by Rurry on Sept 12, 2010 21:41:28 GMT -5
Song was great. Her vocals were very rough....but even still I could tell the song was good. Can't wait for a studio.
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Post by desertfloods on Sept 12, 2010 21:47:15 GMT -5
Personally for me, Speak Now era is starting out all wrong. "Mine" and this new song ("Innocent"?) are both boring IMO. Plus this VMA publicity stunt . Compared to Fearless, that era started with a bang with LS, and all those catchy songs released through iTunes countdown.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 12, 2010 21:47:48 GMT -5
Compared to the majority of Taylor performances I thought that was pretty solid. Towards the end it got a bit shaky, but throughout the majority of the performance it sounded good to me. Perhaps I was just too distracted by how great the song was. Personally for me, Speak Now era is starting out all wrong. "Mine" and this new song ("Innocent"?) are both boring IMO. Plus this VMA publicity stunt . Compared to Fearless, that era started with a bang with LS, and all those catchy songs released through iTunes countdown. I can already tell I'll end up loving "Innocent" more than anything off of Fearless.
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Post by dfrogger on Sept 12, 2010 21:49:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2010 21:49:55 GMT -5
Song 9/10 Vocals 5/10 Connection With Audience 9/10 Overall: 23/30 Solid B performance. She just needs to work on her vocals.
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Post by strikeleo on Sept 12, 2010 22:01:42 GMT -5
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 12, 2010 22:29:12 GMT -5
Taylor Swift Sings About Kanye at VMAs: We Can "Be Friends"Credit: Kevin Winter/Getty Images Sunday – September 12, 2010 – 10:32pm Comments (1) » Sounds like Taylor Swift is ready to forgive Kanye West for ruining her 2009 Video Music Awards experience. During a surprise performance at Sunday's 2010 Video Music Awards show, Swift debuted a brand-new song that looked back -- charitably -- at the rapper's infamous ambush of her. Before she began, an onstage TV quickly played the moment in which Kanye stormed the stage, protesting her win of that year's Best Female Video. "Lost your balance on the tight rope/it's never too late to get it back," she sang. "Today is never too late to be brand new," she added, suggesting West clean his act up. In another verse, Swift sings about a man who's "32 and still growing up now...who you are is not what you say. " "Every one of us has messed up too," Swift's song continued. "I hope you remember today's never too late...to be friends with you....You're still an innocent." Tell Us: did you like Taylor's song? www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/taylor-swift-sings-about-kanye-at-vmas-we-can-be-friends--2010129
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Post by otternobetter87 on Sept 12, 2010 22:29:31 GMT -5
Loooove the song!! She is SUCH a great songwriter. I mean, seriously.. wow.
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 12, 2010 22:30:05 GMT -5
In a meeting right now, but I'm mega-psyched to hear a 2nd song from the first amazing album of the year (I have every hope of that anyway.). And, hey to the haters, here's a song that's not about love. There you go.
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Post by Typo on Sept 12, 2010 22:32:52 GMT -5
The song is pretty great, I'm glad it wasn't how I'd originally imagined it to be. But, that wasn't a good vocal, at all.
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Post by maria4hitz on Sept 12, 2010 22:33:17 GMT -5
The new song will sound amazing on the album, I can't wait!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2010 22:39:14 GMT -5
Swift performed? :O I didn't catch it, must have been when I was out the room. I hope MTV puts it on their website...
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Post by neally on Sept 12, 2010 22:41:26 GMT -5
Swift performed? :O I didn't catch it, must have been when I was out the room. I hope MTV puts it on their website... Here you go:
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Sept 12, 2010 22:41:43 GMT -5
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Post by Cerbius on Sept 12, 2010 22:47:03 GMT -5
I like the new song a lot more than "Mine". I really REALLY want to hear the studio version.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2010 22:48:48 GMT -5
WOW! :O I got goosebumps from that. That was amazing. Like miles and miles better than Mine... which I don't like at all. Thanks for linking me to the video. I had definitely missed it.
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Post by heartbreaklullaby on Sept 12, 2010 22:49:09 GMT -5
Loved the lyrics. Found them online I guess you really did it this time Left yourself in your war path Lost your balance on a tightrope Lost your mind trying to get it back Wasn’t it easier in your lunchbox days? Always a bigger bed to crawl into Wasn’t it beautiful when you believed in everything And everybody believed in you? CHORUS It’s alright, just wait and see Your string of lights are still bright to me, oh Who you are is not what you’ve been You’re still an innocent You’re still an innocent There’s some things you can’t speak of But tonight you’ll live it all again You wouldn’t be shattered on the floor now If only you were seeing what you know now, then Wasn’t it easier in your firefly catching days? And everything out of reach someone picked up and brought down to you Wasn’t it beautiful running wild ‘til you fell asleep Before the monsters caught up to you? CHORUS It’s alright, just wait and see Your string of lights are still bright to me, oh Who you are is not what you’ve been You’re still an innocent It’s okay, life is a tightrope 32 and still growing up now Who you are is not what you did You’re still an innocent Time turns flames to embers You’ll have new Septembers Every one of us has messed up too Lines change like the weather I hope you remember Today is never too late to be brave CHORUS It’s alright, just wait and see Your string of lights are still bright to me, oh Who you are is not what you’ve been You’re still an innocent It’s okay, life is a tight rope 32 and still growing up now Who you are is not what you did You’re still an innocent You’re still an innocent Lost your balance on a tightrope It’s never too late to get it back
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Post by BurnItUp (with Kerosene) on Sept 12, 2010 23:08:42 GMT -5
That song is so much stronger than Mine; maybe not as hook laden melodically, but it was more memorable to me. She is really good at writing what she knows and "diary" songs, but she managed a more grown-up perspective and less black and white which seems to be one of the common complaints about her "diary" songs. (But I do think she still needs to work on tying her turn of phrases into the rest of the song sometimes.) The Twitter response isn't that great though. She's getting more backlash over it than I expected. Maybe the actual song got lost in the sensationalism behind it a bit, and should have gotten a chance to stand on it's own without that, but it didn't. Maybe without the intro at least? Because lyrically (even with the 32 reference) it doesn't scream "Kanye!" and it could have just been her performing an unheard song (and if people got the meaning when hearing it then they got it), instead of the gimmick it seems a lot of people are seeing it as.
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Post by Mark on Sept 12, 2010 23:11:27 GMT -5
CANNNNOT wait to hear the studio version of this song. I don't care how much shit people talk about this girl, she is incredible.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Sept 12, 2010 23:11:40 GMT -5
^ Yea I was thinking the performance could've done without the recap of last years VMA's in the beginning. The general public wouldn't have known it was about Kanye.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 12, 2010 23:15:35 GMT -5
The backlash is obviously coming from Taylor detractors and people who are jumping to conclusions (not closely listening to the lyrics and thinking the song is a "woe is me" anthem). The song itself isn't badmouthing Kanye. She's basically referencing his struggles, saying she still sees good in him, and saying his actions that night doesn't define him as a person. It's essentially a song about forgiveness and realizing that no one's perfect. I'm not quite sure what is so bad about that at all.
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Post by Stephen on Sept 12, 2010 23:17:33 GMT -5
There is no bad in it, WILL. The bad is what surrounds it. The video playing before hand was really, really stupid. It's gonna plague this pure song.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2010 23:18:14 GMT -5
The backlash is obviously coming from Taylor detractors and people who are jumping to conclusions (not closely listening to the lyrics and thinking the song is a "woe is me" anthem). The song itself isn't badmouthing Kanye. She's basically referencing his struggles, saying she still sees good in him, and saying his actions that night doesn't define him as a person. It's essentially a song about forgiveness and realizing that no one's perfect. I'm not quite sure what is so bad about that at all. I agree with you 100 % Will. She's basically stating that the moment of time (the incident) does not represent him as a person and she knows he's better than that. It's sorta like an appology but also recognizing that he is a human being and he has his bad moments (but that's not what represents him overall).
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 12, 2010 23:21:57 GMT -5
There is no bad in it, WILL. The bad is what surrounds it. The video playing before hand was really, really stupid. It's gonna plague this pure song. Eh. I'm not worried (if it's released). The song is just too brilliant.
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Post by Mark on Sept 12, 2010 23:22:10 GMT -5
The backlash is obviously coming from Taylor detractors and people who are jumping to conclusions (not closely listening to the lyrics and thinking the song is a "woe is me" anthem). The song itself isn't badmouthing Kanye. She's basically referencing his struggles, saying she still sees good in him, and saying his actions that night doesn't define him as a person. It's essentially a song about forgiveness and realizing that no one's perfect. I'm not quite sure what is so bad about that at all. I agree with you 100 % Will. She's basically stating that the moment of time (the incident) does not represent him as a person and she knows he's better than that. It's sorta like an appology but also recognizing that he is a human being and he has his bad moments (but that's not what represents him overall). THIS. THIS. ALL OF THIS. Ugh, why can't all people be this smart. (I'm looking at you, the majority of Twitter)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2010 23:22:49 GMT -5
Yeah, WILL™ is so right. I don't think this song is going to be hurt at all. It's amazing, and if it isn't given a chance because of a recap before the song on the VMAs, then that's just dumb. Taylor fans will love the song, request it, and buy it, so all will be good.
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Post by Typo on Sept 12, 2010 23:23:14 GMT -5
Most of the negative reaction I've seen accuses the song of being too dramatic of a response to the Kanye incident. Not that it was a 'diss'.
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