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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 19, 2010 14:50:05 GMT -5
I agree. I actually think Lil Wayne weakens the song by making it sound uneven, with his especially slow delivery at the beginning of the track. Eminem saves the song to a wide degree by delivering a powerful rapid-fire final verse, but it doesn't change how uneven the track sounds and I don't think it would be a hit if released, despite the name power of both artists. Interestingly enough, among the remaining tracks featuring guest vocals, it's the Who-In-Blue-Blazes-Is-This-Guy? (Kobe), NOT Pink or Lil Wayne tracks, that is the only one I see achieving mass airplay. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if "No Love" receives unsolicited airplay simply because it features two of rap's most prominent rappers. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Yeah, I love the Pink Chorus but it's not a huge part of the song. Though I think the main thing that is making Love The Way You Lie a Hit and why "Won't Back Down" wouldnt be is Em's verses. When you compare the Pink and Rihanna chorus they are not much different in terms of length of chorus. Won't back down is just way more explicit in Em's verses. While some could argue Em's verses are Darker in "Love The Way You Lie" then "Won't back down" they still are not as explicit. I mean watching Em perform Won't Back Down on Fallon a while back was a chore. All the beeps here and beeps there. I mean I can see how maybe No Love could become big when the sample and it being two big time rappers i just don't see it. But assuming LTWYL hit's #1 after two #1 singles in a row i think Em might just stick to the plan and release No Love as a single. If it blow up great, if not, oh well. But Talkin' 2 Myself would be huge? #1 Huge? Idk. Because a lot of it would depend on digital sales. But do i think that could be top 10? Absolutely.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Jul 19, 2010 16:05:45 GMT -5
It seriously bothers be so much that he titled "Talkin' 2 Myself" the way he did, because there is another song titled exactly the same way (and was a #1 hit in a lot of Asian countries) and it's just such an obscure way to title it.
It bugs the s**t out of me.
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Post by mel46 on Jul 19, 2010 17:12:01 GMT -5
why no updates for Chris Brown's "Deuces"
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Post by bybkt on Jul 19, 2010 19:00:03 GMT -5
Mediabase
1. KATY PERRY - California Gurls f/Snoop Dogg: 143.057 (+ 0.393) 2. USHER - OMG f/will. i. am: 127.391 (- 2.189) 3. B.O.B - Airplanes f/Hayley Williams: 116.465 (- 0.177) 4. DRAKE - Find Your Love: 115.751 (- 0.292) 5. TRAVIE MCCOY - Billionaire f/Bruno Mars: 89.040 (- 0.315) 6. EMINEM - Love The Way You Lie f/Rihanna: 83.014 (+ 3.321) 7. MIKE POSNER - Cooler Than Me: 76.088 (+ 0.047) 8. ALICIA KEYS - Unthinkable (I'm Ready): 69.925 (- 0.333) 9. TRAIN - Hey, Soul Sister: 63.968 (- 0.102) 10. LADY ANTEBELLUM - Need You Now : 62.446 (- 0.698) 11. NICKI MINAJ - Your Love: 58.282 (+ 0.316) 12. LA ROUX - Bulletproof: 57.339 (- 0.357) 13. USHER - There Goes My Baby: 56.872 (+ 0.094) 14. TAIO CRUZ - Break Your Heart f/Ludacris: 55.010 (- 0.902) 15. KE$HA - Your Love Is My Drug: 54.376 (- 1.483) 16. UNCLE KRACKER - Smile: 53.421 (+ 0.359) ▲ 17. LADY GAGA - Alejandro: 53.396 (- 0.896) ▼ 18. LUKE BRYAN - Rain Is A Good Thing: 49.887 (- 0.110) ▲ 19. CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Undo It: 49.731 (+ 0.092) ▲ 20. B.O.B - Nothin' On You f/Bruno Mars: 49.223 (- 1.586) ▼
THE SCRIPT - Breakeven: 49.169 (- 0.398) JASON DERULO - Ridin' Solo: 48.729 (+ 0.350) TAIO CRUZ - Dynamite: 48.484 (+ 1.343) BRAD PAISLEY - Water: 46.054 (- 0.680) JERROD NIEMANN - Lover, Lover: 44.568 (+ 0.390) ZAC BROWN BAND - Free: 42.481 (+ 0.559) KEITH URBAN - I'm In: 41.579 (+ 0.277) CLAY WALKER - She Won't Be Lonely Long: 41.511 (- 0.724) SHONTELLE - Impossible: 41.330 (- 0.185) CIARA - Ride f/Ludacris: 39.226 (- 0.209) LEE BRICE - Love Like Crazy: 37.131 (- 0.331) EMINEM - Not Afraid: 36.685 (+ 0.562) ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - I Like It f/Pitbull: 34.342 (+ 0.748) LADY ANTEBELLUM - Our Kind Of Love: 32.212 (+ 0.619) YOUNG JEEZY - Lose My Mind f/Plies: 31.518 (- 0.600) DIDDY-DIRTY MONEY - Hello Good Morning: 29.319 (- 0.497) JOHN MAYER - Half Of My Heart: 27.605 (+ 0.289) MAROON 5 - Misery: 25.988 (+ 1.347) T.I. - Got Your Back f/Keri Hilson: 25.718 (+ 0.232) LUDACRIS - Sex Room f/Trey Songz: 25.059 (- 0.064) 3OH!3 - My First Kiss f/Ke$ha: 24.596 (+ 0.374) COLBIE CAILLAT - I Never Told You: 24.149 (- 0.130) DJ KHALED - All I Do Is Win f/T-Pain: 22.855 (- 0.474) SOULJA BOY - Pretty Boy Swag: 22.467 (+ 0.046) TRAIN - If It's Love: 22.189 (+ 0.278) USHER F/PITBULL - DJ Got Us Fallin’ In Love: 22.121 (+ 2.573) FANTASIA - Bittersweet: 21.893 (- 0.167) DRAKE - Miss Me f/Lil Wayne: 21.249 (+ 0.279) JUSTIN BIEBER - Somebody To Love: 21.025 (- 0.606) KANYE WEST - Power f/Dwele: 20.097 (+ 0.001) DAVID GUETTA & CHRIS WILLIS - Gettin Over You f/Fergie/LMFAO: 19.621 (- 0.173) PARAMORE - The Only Exception: 19.417 (+ 0.500) NE-YO - Beautiful Monster: 17.144 (- 0.100) ROB THOMAS - Mockingbird: 16.473 (- 0.119) PINK - Glitter In The Air: 15.785 (- 0.061) SARA BAREILLES - King Of Anything: 14.928 (+ 0.010) NE-YO - Champagne Life: 14.531 (+ 0.110) B.O.B - Magic f/Rivers Cuomo: 14.134 (+ 0.169) ADAM LAMBERT - If I Had You: 8.473 (- 0.069) JACK JOHNSON - You And Your Heart: 6.502 (+ 0.023) BRANDON FLOWERS - Crossfire: 5.691 (- 0.013)
TAYLOR SWIFT - You Belong With Me: 27.251 TAYLOR SWIFT - Love Story: 19.079 KENNY CHESNEY - The Boys Of Fall: 16.303 MIRANDA COSGROVE - Kissin U: 13.055 (+ 0.054) SHINEDOWN - The Crow & The Butterfly: 11.884 (+ 0.134) AUBURN - La La La: 10.567 AVENGED SEVENFOLD - Nightmare: 7.871 (- 0.125) THE SCRIPT - Man Who Can't Be Moved: 6.327 (+ 0.107) KRIS ALLEN - The Truth: 5.683 (+ 0.150) KELLY ROWLAND - Grown Woman: 4.555 (+ 0.095) TREY SONGZ - Bottoms Up f/Nick Minaj: 4.308 (+ 0.745) KE$HA - Take It Off: 3.526 (+ 0.515) NATASHA BEDINGFIELD - Touch: 2.445 SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE - Round & Round: 0.586 (+ 0.007) CIARA - Gimmie Dat: 0.299 (+ 0.001) CHRISTINA AGUILERA - You Lost Me: 0.260 (+ 0.018) CHRISTINA PERRI - Jar Of Hearts: 0.179 (+ 0.011) CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Woo Hoo: 0.067 (- 0.007)
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 19, 2010 19:40:52 GMT -5
6. EMINEM - Love The Way You Lie f/Rihanna: 83.014 (+ 3.321)
EMINEM - Not Afraid: 36.685 (+ 0.562)
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 19, 2010 20:11:12 GMT -5
13. USHER - There Goes My Baby: 56.872 (+ 0.094) YESSS!!! Rise Ursh! If Katy Perry passes Single Ladies' AI peak I'll be
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Post by fridayteenage on Jul 19, 2010 21:06:00 GMT -5
It's amazing that Katy even though she's falling on pop still has the #2 gain in the T20.
& YBWM still has 27 mil aud...
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Post by felipe on Jul 19, 2010 21:22:27 GMT -5
Billboard should be charting singles in the Top 20 in airplay no matter what. Agreed.
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Post by stooki3 on Jul 19, 2010 22:50:38 GMT -5
If Katy Perry passes Single Ladies' AI peak I'll be I don't think Katy will do it. Em/Rihanna might do it.
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Post by kingofpain on Jul 19, 2010 23:13:36 GMT -5
I don't see how Katy Perry could possibly do it without the help of urban format. She's lucky she got this high on pop airplay alone.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 19, 2010 23:50:39 GMT -5
why no updates for Chris Brown's "Deuces" Probably because someone (not so accidentally) mispronounced it in a press release as "Douches"? Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 19, 2010 23:59:23 GMT -5
BURN!
Nice one Lisping. :)
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 20, 2010 0:53:31 GMT -5
I agree. I actually think Lil Wayne weakens the song by making it sound uneven, with his especially slow delivery at the beginning of the track. Eminem saves the song to a wide degree by delivering a powerful rapid-fire final verse, but it doesn't change how uneven the track sounds and I don't think it would be a hit if released, despite the name power of both artists. Interestingly enough, among the remaining tracks featuring guest vocals, it's the Who-In-Blue-Blazes-Is-This-Guy? (Kobe), NOT Pink or Lil Wayne tracks, that is the only one I see achieving mass airplay. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if "No Love" receives unsolicited airplay simply because it features two of rap's most prominent rappers. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Yeah, I love the Pink Chorus but it's not a huge part of the song. Though I think the main thing that is making Love The Way You Lie a Hit and why "Won't Back Down" wouldnt be is Em's verses. When you compare the Pink and Rihanna chorus they are not much different in terms of length of chorus. Won't back down is just way more explicit in Em's verses. While some could argue Em's verses are Darker in "Love The Way You Lie" then "Won't back down" they still are not as explicit. I mean watching Em perform Won't Back Down on Fallon a while back was a chore. All the beeps here and beeps there. I mean I can see how maybe No Love could become big when the sample and it being two big time rappers i just don't see it. But assuming LTWYL hit's #1 after two #1 singles in a row i think Em might just stick to the plan and release No Love as a single. If it blow up great, if not, oh well. But Talkin' 2 Myself would be huge? #1 Huge? Idk. Because a lot of it would depend on digital sales. But do i think that could be top 10? Absolutely. Frankly, I also think the song's production keeps it from being radio-friendly at all. It's just a very militant fight song that I believe is more intended as an album track that attempts to stand out and make the rest of the album not feel like filler (I consider "Almost Famous", "So Bad" and "Seduction" the filler duds) that so happens to feature P!nk because...............well............she's known for standing for herself and fighting and not backing down. I hope if a DJ Khalil-produced cut gets released as a single, it's "Talkin' 2 Myself", which is by far the most radio-friendly of his four contributions anyway. "25 to Life" is also quite a strong track (why isn't the female vocalist on that track and "Almost Famous" credited as a featured artist?) and I think would do reasonably well as a single. I don't much care for "No Love" despite Eminem's valiant effort, and "Almost Famous" is a dud. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by nighttime on Jul 20, 2010 1:06:27 GMT -5
how much of this is accurate? Save from the prediction that it will hit #1 this week lol
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 20, 2010 1:14:58 GMT -5
I hope if a DJ Khalil-produced cut gets released as a single, it's "Talkin' 2 Myself", which is by far the most radio-friendly of his four contributions anyway. "25 to Life" is also quite a strong track (why isn't the female vocalist on that track and "Almost Famous" credited as a featured artist?) and I think would do reasonably well as a single. I don't much care for "No Love" despite Eminem's valiant effort, and "Almost Famous" is a dud. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus I think i tried to answer this for you before. Maybe this article will answer some questions for you. www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/article/826533--toronto-songwriters-earn-credits-on-eminem-s-new-albumBasically the choruses were on these tracks when Eminem got them from DJ Khalil. They were like part of the beat or something like that from what i gather. So Liz Rodrigues was the one who was originally the singer on "Won't Back Down" but Eminem thought Pink would be better for the track. So if Liz is on the beat maybe that's why she wasnt credited on the album track. She is credited in the album as a writer. But the song she was on for Slaughterhouse titled "The One" they were credited as The New Royales. It was produced by Khalil. Obviously the chorus in that track was written by Liz, Alcock, and Khalil. Maybe Eminem just didnt want to put Ft. The New Royales twice on the back of the case. idk.
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Post by Diego on Jul 20, 2010 6:56:51 GMT -5
Damn, Usher's the airplay King :O His latest 3 songs have a combined AI of over 200m! Needless to mention, Eminem is still taking monumental strides towards the top, but I'm glad Katy is still rising!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 20, 2010 7:37:05 GMT -5
I don't think Katy will do it. Em/Rihanna might do it. Eminem doesn't have the Urban format support. I think it'll get close enough, but eventually won't pass it just like 'Rude Boy'.
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Post by hitseeker. on Jul 20, 2010 8:19:50 GMT -5
CG has surprassed OMG's airplay peak right?
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Post by kirby2725 on Jul 20, 2010 9:23:50 GMT -5
Is Enrique going to go even higher this week? I'd love for him to go top 5!
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Post by itsbritneybitch on Jul 20, 2010 11:23:11 GMT -5
updates?
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Post by sghosal22 on Jul 20, 2010 13:12:32 GMT -5
Can Drake - Fancy be addeD????
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jul 20, 2010 13:30:22 GMT -5
Fancy is a great song. but isnt it kinda old.
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Post by countryfan2002 on Jul 20, 2010 21:47:25 GMT -5
Fancy is a great song. but isnt it kinda old. I thought for a second you were talking about Reba McEntire's "Fancy".
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 21, 2010 10:36:13 GMT -5
Per Billboard- "Love the Way You Lie" scanned 352,000, up 12%.
On a related note, Eminem will join the rank of acts who have scored 10+ unique No. 1 hits in either the USA or UK (meaning, 10 different tracks to peak at No. 1 in either country- not counting the same track that hit No. 1 in both territories twice).
"Love the Way You Lie" is Eminem's fourth No. 1 on the Hot 100. Of course, only three acts (Elvis, the Beatles and Madonna) have racked up 10+ total No. 1 hits in both the USA and UK, with little chance that a fourth act will join them anytime soon.
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Post by Honeymoon on Jul 21, 2010 11:15:56 GMT -5
via Idol Chatter
David Archuleta and Chris Sligh both have new singles available at iTunes this week, but, as far as last week was concerned, Carrie Underwood and Adam Lambert were the only two American Idol acts with tracks on the Nielsen SoundScan list of 200 top-selling digital tracks.
Carrie Underwood, Undo It (41,000, -9%, 590,000 total) Adam Lambert, If I Had You (26,000, +14%, 123,000) Adam Lambert, Whataya Want From Me (19,000, -7%, 1.41 million) Carrie Underwood, Cowboy Casanova (8,000, -9%, 1.426 million) Carrie Underwood, Temporary Home (6,000, -12%, 547,000) Carrie Underwood, Before He Cheats (5,000, +8%, 3.042 million) Kellie Pickler, Makin' Me Fall in Love Again (4,000, -1%, 56,000) Carrie Underwood, All-American Girl (4,000, -6%, 1.236 million) Bucky Covington, A Father's Love (The Only Way He Knew How) (3,000 -4%, 28,000)
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 21, 2010 11:36:23 GMT -5
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Post by d.t.m on Jul 21, 2010 12:25:12 GMT -5
How many weeks does everyone think Lie can stay at the top?
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Post by fridayteenage on Jul 21, 2010 12:29:52 GMT -5
Some new songs could interrupt with one-week mega digital sales, but right now nothing is out to challenge with very few other songs gaining much airplay traction...maybe Usher eventually.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Jul 21, 2010 12:33:06 GMT -5
You know I'm amazed that only 3 acts have gotten 10+ #1 hits in the US.
Ayumi Hamasaki has 36 #1s In Japan, Kinki Kids have 29 #1s. Arashi has 27 #1s. SMAP has 21 #1s.
and this is off the top of my head :S
and they've all had a #1 hit as recently as last year.
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Post by d.t.m on Jul 21, 2010 12:36:39 GMT -5
You know I'm amazed that only 3 acts have gotten 10+ #1 hits in the US. No, The Beatles, Mike, Mariah, Elvis, Whitney, Madonna, Janet, Stevie, and The Supremes have all scored 10 or more #1's in the US.
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