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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 27, 2010 3:29:48 GMT -5
Hot new band of Arizona aviators? So lockebox, how 'bout editing the subject bar for us, eh? I feel like this song is kind of a mediocre choice for the third single, especially since it's a bit of a do-or-die situation here. It's too light and breezy and the chorus is pretty throwaway, like it was Scott's scratch vocal to put the melody down or something. "Maver," arguably my favorite track, wouldn't work. I'd like to see "Huckleberry Crumble," but that might be too similar to the sound of the first two. "Dare If You Dare" is different from those and has a nice melody to it. I don't know. I feel like this album is better than a lot of the unimpressed people are giving it credit for.
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Post by weaver on Aug 27, 2010 10:44:14 GMT -5
Dude, the 4th Live album was 'The Distance To Here'. That might have been the best album to come out that year! Well Metallica - S&M and Splender - Halfway Down The Sky also came out that year, but those are probably my top 3 albums that I can think of off the top of my head from 1999. I remember at the time I was excited they had a new album. I was very underwhelmed by it, and spun it maybe 3 times. It just wasn't catchy, for me, like Mental Jewelry or Throwing Copper.
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Post by weaver on Aug 27, 2010 10:47:12 GMT -5
Hot new band of Arizona aviators? So lockebox, how 'bout editing the subject bar for us, eh? I feel like this song is kind of a mediocre choice for the third single, especially since it's a bit of a do-or-die situation here. It's too light and breezy and the chorus is pretty throwaway, like it was Scott's scratch vocal to put the melody down or something. "Maver," arguably my favorite track, wouldn't work. I'd like to see "Huckleberry Crumble," but that might be too similar to the sound of the first two. "Dare If You Dare" is different from those and has a nice melody to it. I don't know. I feel like this album is better than a lot of the unimpressed people are giving it credit for. I think it's a great album, although I've over-played it for myself at this point. I think Cinnamon could work, if not necessarily on Rock radio- it could work on Hot AC/AAA, it seems. I thought that Last Kiss on Mars could have been a good 3rd single also.
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Post by lockebox on Aug 30, 2010 18:37:47 GMT -5
Official adds date: September 21st.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 30, 2010 19:03:24 GMT -5
They might want to consider holding off releasing this on active rock. "Take A Load Off" is still bulleted there, and "Cinnamon" isn't exactly active rock material.
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Post by rockmaniac on Aug 30, 2010 19:06:54 GMT -5
They might want to consider holding off releasing this on active rock. "Take A Load Off" is still bulleted there. idk. it should decrease spins very soon.
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Post by lockebox on Aug 30, 2010 19:17:21 GMT -5
I can't see "Cinnamon" going top 20 on either format tbh. "Hazy Daze" would have been a better option.
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Post by pen on Aug 30, 2010 19:27:46 GMT -5
I really wanted "Hickory Dichotomy".
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Aug 30, 2010 19:29:50 GMT -5
Hickory Dichotomy is my favorite track left. I imagine it will get its release eventually.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Sept 30, 2010 8:31:28 GMT -5
Top 50 on Alternative:
69 49 STONE TEMPLE PILOTS Cinnamon 144 70 74 0.514
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Post by lockebox on Nov 5, 2010 22:08:14 GMT -5
Well, this flopped. Very disappointing end to the era with the last two singles. At one stage it looked like "Take a Load Off" was gonna be successful, atleast.
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Post by pen on Nov 5, 2010 22:13:50 GMT -5
Well, this flopped. Very disappointing end to the era with the last two singles. At one stage it looked like "Take a Load Off" was gonna be successful, atleast. I'm starting to wonder if there's even a place for a band like STP anymore. Alternative seems to be fascinated with more electronic and indie-leaning bands of late and active seems to still be in hair metal revival mode for the most part. I think any band looking to recapture their former glory is going to start off strong just out of interest and then quickly find themselves disappointed. I'm still kind of shocked as to how much Creed's revival tanked considering back in 2002 they were still going 6x platinum here in the States and Full Circle has yet to even go gold. It really and truly is not the 90s anymore.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Nov 5, 2010 22:44:51 GMT -5
Shame it flopped, it was a decent song.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Nov 6, 2010 5:17:51 GMT -5
Well, this flopped. Very disappointing end to the era with the last two singles. At one stage it looked like "Take a Load Off" was gonna be successful, atleast. I'm starting to wonder if there's even a place for a band like STP anymore. Alternative seems to be fascinated with more electronic and indie-leaning bands of late and active seems to still be in hair metal revival mode for the most part. I think any band looking to recapture their former glory is going to start off strong just out of interest and then quickly find themselves disappointed. I'm still kind of shocked as to how much Creed's revival tanked considering back in 2002 they were still going 6x platinum here in the States and Full Circle has yet to even go gold. It really and truly is not the 90s anymore. How do you explain AIC's relative success? They don't really fit into the hair metal revival category at all, nor the indie/electronic category. And they don't even have the original singer, which keeps certain AIC purists from getting into the new lineup. So besides that fact that the album was really good and Nick Raliwhateverhislastnameis did a heck of a job as a producer...why the success for them and not Pearl Jam, STP, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, and Bush on all their most recent efforts?
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Post by pen on Nov 6, 2010 7:31:55 GMT -5
I'm starting to wonder if there's even a place for a band like STP anymore. Alternative seems to be fascinated with more electronic and indie-leaning bands of late and active seems to still be in hair metal revival mode for the most part. I think any band looking to recapture their former glory is going to start off strong just out of interest and then quickly find themselves disappointed. I'm still kind of shocked as to how much Creed's revival tanked considering back in 2002 they were still going 6x platinum here in the States and Full Circle has yet to even go gold. It really and truly is not the 90s anymore. How do you explain AIC's relative success? They don't really fit into the hair metal revival category at all, nor the indie/electronic category. And they don't even have the original singer, which keeps certain AIC purists from getting into the new lineup. So besides that fact that the album was really good and Nick Raliwhateverhislastnameis did a heck of a job as a producer...why the success for them and not Pearl Jam, STP, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, and Bush on all their most recent efforts? Simple. I can't. I thought that AIC's success spelled good things for everyone else, but it didn't. It's a mystery to me, really. All I can say is that AIC leans much heavier than the other bands and Godsmack and their ilk are still staples on active stations. As for their success on Alternative, again, can't explain. It's really bizarre.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Nov 6, 2010 11:20:02 GMT -5
It is worth noting that AIC fizzled out sooner at Alternative than Active, with "Lesson Learned" failing to reach the top 20.
But for me, personally, AIC's singles resonated a lot more. "Check My Brain" was a very strong comeback single, recognizably AIC-esque yet standing out as something new. "Between The Lines" was catchy, but wasn't anything I hadn't heard before. And I thought "Your Decision" and "Lesson Learned" were solid followups, while "Take A Load Off" never really clicked with me and "Cinnamon" just annoys me. Yes, I know it's just my opinion, but I get the impression that the masses had similar feelings.
As for the other bands mentioned... Bush came back with a song that sounded nothing like their old stuff, and in my opinion, wasn't very good. Plus, they just don't seem to have as much credibility as the grunge bands that came before them. With Soundgarden, a Badmotorfinger outtake wasn't the way to go if they wanted a hit.
EDIT: Forgot the Pumpkins, I do think "Freak" is their best single in a while, and pretty radio-friendly, but still pales in comparison to their classic material. Besides, there just doesn't seem to be that much hype or promotion behind their new stuff, and I'm not sure if people are taking the Pumpkins without any original members besides Corgan seriously.
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Post by halo19 on Nov 6, 2010 14:29:52 GMT -5
I really wanted "Hickory Dichotomy".
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Post by rockmaniac on Nov 6, 2010 15:59:08 GMT -5
should they release a fourth single, which do u think it'll be?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Nov 6, 2010 16:02:10 GMT -5
What's the point? I doubt that they think anything more from this album would chart. I think part of the problem is that this album sounds more old school than their old school stuff. Their original stuff sounded like 90s rock. This album feels like it's classic rock & roll (in a bad way). Maybe I'm imagining that difference, but does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
Maybe it's just cuz they sound older and thus as old farts had to have had their heyday in the '70s. :)
"Take A Load Off" was an exception though. That song felt like it could have been from the '90s to me.
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Post by Devin on Nov 6, 2010 16:17:13 GMT -5
I agree with your interpretation jvandyck87, the whole album sounds like it from the late 70's, besides "Between the Lines" and "Take a Load Off", which sound like they're from the 90's. Maybe "Take a Load Off" should've been the lead single, then "Between the Lines" for a catchy second single, then "Maver" or "Peacoat" for a third single, and if that was successful, release "Huckleberry Crumble". That would've probably been a better era for them.
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Post by lockebox on Nov 6, 2010 20:19:23 GMT -5
should they release a fourth single, which do u think it'll be? ??? Why would they release another single after this flopped? I'm still suprised "Take a Load Off" fell so quickly after getting off to such a great start. That one really deserved to be a hit.
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Post by Radical347 on Nov 8, 2010 0:55:08 GMT -5
Too bad. "Between the Lines" = typical STP fodder & "Take a Load Off" = underpar STP fodder, but this song is love. Best STP song since "Sour Girl," in my opinion.
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Post by Pipa on Nov 8, 2010 23:23:41 GMT -5
My biggest problem with their new songs is they're so repetitive. "Between The Lines" was fine at first, but now it's just obnoxious. "Take A Load Off" was pretty good too, but was missing something. So far this is the best of both worlds and has had the least burnout rate.
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