We Are The Fallen--"Tear The World Down"

[rog152]

2nd single from their debut album "Tear The World Down" goes for adds Oct 12, confirmed by band's publicist and band members through twitter post.

[pen]

Dumb choice, they should go for the gold with "Don't Leave Me Behind".

[Nicholas2.0]

Curious, since "Sleep Well, My Angel" was listed in the "Available for Airplay" section of the SubModern report on FMQB a week or two ago.

[lockebox]

I thought "Burn" was an obvious pick ??? not that it matters, as this probably won't chart.

[jvandyck87]

Those interested in Evanescence/We Are The Fallen/any dramatic conflicts involving complete strangers should read this:

www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=145179

While I'm skeptical of a few things Ben Moody says, I think he does a really good job of explaining his side of his departure from Evanescence in a way that's not defamatory towards Amy Lee. That said, given the struggles of We Are The Fallen for success, I question his motives. It's interesting either way if you have time to read it.

[slicknickshady]

He's the one who almost choked Amy Lee to death. He is the last person i would feel sorry for.

[David]

Aug 28, 2010 1:51:12 GMT -5 slicknickshady said:

He's the one who almost choked Amy Lee to death. He is the last person i would feel sorry for.

I don't feel sorry for any of them. Reading that story, its obvious blame was to go around. He even mentions he was an "awful person" at the time and a "shell of himself".

[pen]

Aug 28, 2010 1:51:12 GMT -5 slicknickshady said:

He's the one who almost choked Amy Lee to death. He is the last person i would feel sorry for.

The hell did this happen? I've never heard that before.

[jvandyck87]

Aug 28, 2010 1:51:12 GMT -5 slicknickshady said:

He's the one who almost choked Amy Lee to death. He is the last person i would feel sorry for.

Considering your stance on Matisyn regarding Evans Blue given everything he put them through, you're kind of a hypocrite. I guess you just assume the lead singer's position every time. How fucking noble of you.

[slicknickshady]

No, Ben Moody has admitted that he did some horrible things. I'm not assuming anything.

I take the lead singers position when the other people are horrible people.

Pen, Check out the Evanescence song "The Last Song I'm Wasting On You". In an interview someone said if the song was about Ben, Amy Lee said "I'm not going to answer that but i guess i sort of just did."

Given what he says about how he was an "Awful" person, doesnt do anything to change popular opinion. Amy Lee is not going to get in a war with Ben Moody. She is going to ignore his recent ploy for attention. Which is the right thing to do.

Matisyn was Evans Blue. He wrote the lyrics. He created the melody's. I just think it's stupid EB is allowed to use the name. That's where my beef mainly lies in that case.

Also, I read the AMG review of this album and it makes sense. Ben wanted someone who would just play the part of being a rock queen and someone who would just do whatever Ben said.

[pen]

Aug 28, 2010 14:39:33 GMT -5 slicknickshady said:

Pen, Check out the Evanescence song "The Last Song I'm Wasting On You". In an interview someone said if the song was about Ben, Amy Lee said "I'm not going to answer that but i guess i sort of just did."

I read that interview and I also read the song lyrics. I also read some post on the Ev boards where she said the song was literal...but I dunno.

I mean I get that it's about Ben and that they were definitely pissed the fuck off at each other during that time and there was a lot of anger and arguments and upheaval, but I guess I just have a hard time taking that song as anything but symbolism. It's also pretty vague about what it's actually describing. The only part that sounds like choking is the first verse and that could just as easily be a metaphor.

I dunno, I guess I just find it hard to believe that a guy that seems so sincere and positive would've done that, although I guess we all do terrible things in anger, especially if it's drunken anger.

[slicknickshady]

Look, I loved Fallen. I recognize Moody is really good on it. It's a shame regardless who started what when good bands shuffle through members regardless of the reason. I had not heard of this band before this Ben response. Now i may actually give this band a shot. It wont be a secret that I prefer Amy Lee as an artist to Ben. If i can say one thing about Ben, It's at least he's honest. I read an MTV interview and he admitted that he likes the more commercial appealing stuff and Amy is the more artistic and will to experiment on things.

Also, I loved Cold so thats why I happen to prefer Terry Balsimo as a guitarist over Ben Moody. That really has nothing to do with whatever happened between Amy and Ben. Even if he was still in Evanescence i would prefer Balsimo. I liked Smithson the little i saw of her on american idol, so i don't have a problem with her. I guess at the end of the day, im not that invested in this war of words. May it's wrong for me to saying choked as a fact, but Ben even admits he was an awful person. So i would lean towards it happened but i see your point..none of us were there. We don't know. Amy Lee is very private so we won't ever really know more.

Hey, I hope Ben is a better person now like he claims to be. He learned. Good for him. But i say it's tough to feel pity for him.

[Love Plastic Love]

I think they are both to blame. I am not exonerating Amy at ALL from any blame because I have honestly never known anyone who has worked with her and said she was anything but a total...well, I guess I will be reported if I repeat it word for word, but when you have tons of people flying away from working with you even if offered tons of money and all repeating the same things about you then there is usually some truth in it. It is sad to me because fame completely changed Amy-she was sooooo different when they were without a label. So fun to work with and funny and easy to get along with. She changed so much since that first cd broke out to the point that I wish they had never been discovered.

Btw, I had some friends who did know them and work with them before they were signed and somewhat afterward so I am not just talking out of my butt unless you want to call all my friends who loved and adored them beforehand random liars for no reason.

So, Ben is probably a jerk, but so is Amy. It sucks because neither of them were like that before and the music definitely suffered because of it.

[kt1990]

I really don't care what happened between them. I like both bands, and hope they both do well.

This song is aight, but there are definitely stronger songs that could have been chosen instead.

[fullonrainstorm]

I feel that Ben and Amy going their separate ways is one of the big tragedies in rock music.IMO it was precisely the tension between their different musical sensibilities that made early Evanescence great.The resultant clash of Ben's and Amy's musical styles was reflected in their joint musical output and gave it a unique flavor.

Much as both parties may hate to hear this but they were like yin and yang : Amy unchecked by Ben's commercial sensibilities became too "Lilith Fair" and introspective and Ben lost his muse who gave an otherworldly and ethereal touch to his otherwise straight up pedestrian rock stylings.It's no coincidence that neither person's subsequent solo efforts came close to approximating the level of success they had achieved together as a creative duo.

Imagine if they had decided to stick together ,who knows how far they could have taken Evanescence creatively and commercially.

[pen]

I listened to this album again tonight and I have to say that this is a completely ill-advised option for a single. If not my previous mention of "Don't Leave Me Behind", they should at least send "Through Hell" to active or try for pop play with "Sleep Well My Angel". Even if they edit this song down for radio purposes it's still just an obvious closer song.

[lockebox]

Adds date: October 26th (fmqb)

[slicknickshady]

Sept 2, 2010 10:59:11 GMT -5 fullonrainstorm said:

I feel that Ben and Amy going their separate ways is one of the big tragedies in rock music.IMO it was precisely the tension between their different musical sensibilities that made early Evanescence great.The resultant clash of Ben's and Amy's musical styles was reflected in their joint musical output and gave it a unique flavor.

Much as both parties may hate to hear this but they were like yin and yang : Amy unchecked by Ben's commercial sensibilities became too "Lilith Fair" and introspective and Ben lost his muse who gave an otherworldly and ethereal touch to his otherwise straight up pedestrian rock stylings.It's no coincidence that neither person's subsequent solo efforts came close to approximating the level of success they had achieved together as a creative duo.

Imagine if they had decided to stick together ,who knows how far they could have taken Evanescence creatively and commercially.

Ben just cared about the commercial aspect. Amy cared more about the art.

It's funny...supposedly Ben Moody's sister supposedly made some comment about saying how she still loved Evanescence and We Are The Fallen and how Amy Lee was almost her sister in law. It's never been confirmed they ever dated but it has always been speculated. Don't know if i believe that but thought it was interesting.

I have only seen Evanescence live once and that was with Terry Balsimo who i think is awesome and I thought they put on a great show.

Wind-Up is just a horrible label. I'm looking forward to whenever they release new material.

[pen]

I wouldn't look too poorly on Wind-Up. It's not necessarily their fault that they're in the toilet. Despite several profitable acts, it seems like they're really struggling to stay afloat and they've given opportunities to lots of great bands that wouldn't necessarily have had a shot otherwise, but I think they're just having serious money issues lately. Creed wasn't the shot in the arm that they were hoping and now I think they're trying to scramble to recuperate. I used to hate Wind-Up with a passion but I think in the last five years they've really changed their perspective on things. Sadly I think it just came too little too late.

[slicknickshady]

i don't know why i used the word horrible. they are not nearly as bad as hollywood records. I meant to say that they are not doing well right now. I guess it can be blamed on wind up but i think horrible was a little too harsh.

I mean, I love Evanescence, But they are not Tool...They shouldn't be taking like 4-5 years between albums. I think the next Evanescence album will be really good, but i don't think it will be something when you hear it that will make a person say..yep, that needed 5 years to be created.

[pen]

Seether too. They're one of Wind-Up's most profitable acts and they've had to wait four years.

[American Idiot]

I wonder if radio is cutting the length of this down a bit. I know there are exceptions with bands like Tool & Metallica, but this is over five and a half minutes.

[pen]

Sept 19, 2010 22:19:22 GMT -5 American Idiot said:

I wonder if radio is cutting the length of this down a bit. I know there are exceptions with bands like Tool & Metallica, but this is over five and a half minutes.

I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I predict they'll cut the runtime of this song to exactly zero minutes and zero seconds.

[slicknickshady]

Sept 19, 2010 19:21:18 GMT -5 pen said:

Seether too. They're one of Wind-Up's most profitable acts and they've had to wait four years.

True.

I'm shocked wind-up hasnt resorted to putting out an album with a lot of evanescence rarities on it to make some profit.

[pen]

Sept 21, 2010 3:09:29 GMT -5 slicknickshady said:

Sept 19, 2010 19:21:18 GMT -5 pen said:

Seether too. They're one of Wind-Up's most profitable acts and they've had to wait four years.

True.

I'm shocked wind-up hasnt resorted to putting out an album with a lot of evanescence rarities on it to make some profit.

Probably because of the logistics of who receives credit for what.

[slicknickshady]

Sept 21, 2010 8:58:58 GMT -5 pen said:

Probably because of the logistics of who receives credit for what.

No doubt. If it was easier it obviously would have been done by now.

Plus i doubt Amy would sign off on it but who knows if she would even have the choice. It's probably the label just not wanting to take the time to write the linear notes. haha.

[rog152]

The heard the song will be reduced to 3minutes and 30secs